Innocent shooting

[Rat Faced]

The transport and economic structure of a country is one of the most important targets there is Danb...ask any soldier.

What are the 1st things bombed in a country after the air defences are taken out?

Railways, Bridges and Airports.

Stop the transport system and you cripple a country.

They have managed it twice in London, and various smaller crippling because of scares..

I'd say the succeeded in what they wanted to do.


You dont need the glory of martyrdom... you do this as a last resort.

On the transport system, remotes wont work... and left baggage is suspicious and taken away. What the target is defines the tactics.

In Israel, there is so many armed guards around being suspicious of everything, that is the ONLY thing that works...

In Iraq, there is a combination... the suicide bombers are used when they have to be, car bombs are used when there is no need for them.

If they just wished to kill lots of people... I can think of a number of things in London they could have achieved this, with 4 bombs of the apparent strength they had, with no risk whatsoever...

[bigboab]

If the tube and buses are a 'legitimate' targets then they could hit them in the bus and tube depots\sidings where they would destroy more without killing innocent people. But then again there are no 'civilians' in Fundamental Islamic thinking. Anyone who is not a Islamic and Fundamental is a legitimate target.

Maybe, as they are doing this in the name of Islam, we should threaten to proscribe the Islamic Faith in the UK. If nothing else it would make them deal with the problem internally and also liven up this thread.

[JPaul]

The "Target" was to bring the London Transport system to a halt. They achieved this.

If they just wished to kill civilians, then there are many other places that they could have bombed with timers/remotes, where they would not have been at risk.

As the target was legitimate, then the deaths are colateral damage.

Nonsense and sick nonsense at that. You insult the people who were murdered indiscriminately. I thought more of you.

If the target was the transport system they could have bombed empty railway lines, killing no-one but achieving the same end. They could destroy roads, bridges, power lines, loads of things.

They could give warnings. They don't even do that.

[JPaul]

.... with no risk whatsoever...

Do you genuinely not understand that the suicide is part of the policy. To show just how fanatical they are and how far they will go.

"If our people will kill themselves for us, then who is safe."

That's intrinsic to the tactic, to spread as much fear as possible.

[Rat Faced]

I dont insult the people that were murdered JP.

I condemned this, just as i condemned Falujah and the invasion itself.

I'm just not hypocritical enough to think that when someone we fight, fights back, then its different.

[JPaul]

I dont insult the people that were murdered JP.

I condemned this, just as i condemned Falujah and the invasion itself.

I'm just not hypocritical enough to think that when someone we fight, fights back, then its different.

Do you honestly believe that the target was the London transport system.

[Busyman]

I dont insult the people that were murdered JP.

I condemned this, just as i condemned Falujah and the invasion itself.

I'm just not hypocritical enough to think that when someone we fight, fights back, then its different.

Do you honestly believe that the target was the London transport system.

In part, it had to be but it wasn't to destroy the transport system but people's faith in it.

It also is where they could get the most people cooped up in one spot.

[Rat Faced]

I dont insult the people that were murdered JP.

I condemned this, just as i condemned Falujah and the invasion itself.

I'm just not hypocritical enough to think that when someone we fight, fights back, then its different.

Do you honestly believe that the target was the London transport system.

I dont know.

If it was me though, it would have been.

The fact that they took the Tube System out, followed by a bus, seems to suggest it was the entire transport system they wished to cripple.

If i'd wanted just to kill/injure, then that much explosive suitably placed around Regent Street as an example, would have taken more people out.

I would also have been still around to cause more carnage later.

Just because you're willing to die, does not mean that you have to.

[JPaul]

Do you honestly believe that the target was the London transport system.

I dont know.

If it was me though, it would have been.

The fact that they took the Tube System out, followed by a bus, seems to suggest it was the entire transport system they wished to cripple.

If i'd wanted just to kill/injure, then that much explosive suitably placed around Regent Street as an example, would have taken more people out.

I would also have been still around to cause more carnage later.

Just because you're willing to die, does not mean that you have to.

Had the target been the transport system they could have attacked that without killing innocent people. You know that as well as I do, both boab and I have pointed this out.

Exploding a bomb on a bus or on an underground train, at the time it happened was obviously an attack on innocent civilians, not on the transport infrastructure.

However you already know that. Which is why I took your original post to be disingenuous. The only thing which saddens me is that it was you who posted it, I would have expected as much of others, but not of you.

[Rat Faced]

JP, it was so effective because of where and when it happened.

A bomb on an underground tube is the nightmare that the emergency services dreaded.

It is the hardest thing to combat.

You may think that is disrespectful, i dont mean it that way.

As i said, if it had been me i would have chosen a similar target... and i dont like killing.