That's fine.Originally Posted by DanB
Ah, my bad for picking up on your spelling/grammar mistake
Just so long as the counter-sarcasm came thro' okay
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That's fine.Ah, my bad for picking up on your spelling/grammar mistake
Just so long as the counter-sarcasm came thro' okay
I plan on beating him to death with his kids. I'll use them as a bludgeon on his face. -
--Good for them if they survive.
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Wednesday August 17, 2005
The Guardian
The young Brazilian shot dead by police on a London tube train in mistake for a suicide bomber had already been overpowered by a surveillance officer before he was killed, according to secret documents revealed last night.
It also emerged in the leaked documents that early allegations that he was running away from police at the time of the shooting were untrue and that he appeared unaware that he was being followed.
But the evidence given to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) by police officers and eyewitnesses and leaked to ITV News shows that far from leaping a ticket barrier and fleeing from police, as was initially reported, he was filmed on CCTV calmly entering the station and picking up a free newspaper before boarding the train
The documents reveal that a member of the surveillance team, who sat nearby, grabbed Mr de Menezes before he was shot: "I heard shouting which included the word 'police' and turned to face the male in the denim jacket.
"He immediately stood up and advanced towards me and the CO19 [firearms squad] officers ... I grabbed the male in the denim jacket by wrapping both my arms around his torso, pinning his arms to his side. I then pushed him back on to the seat where he had been previously sitting ... I then heard a gun shot very close to my left ear and was dragged away on to the floor of the carriage."
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The whole thing is a sorry mess. Somebody somewhere has fucked up in a big way, and has to be held accountable.
But I don't know who.
To shoot him while he was restrained, and clearly not carrying an explosive device, and so not a threat to the public, is obscene.
In fact, it's murder.
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Why don't we start with the lying fucking police?The whole thing is a sorry mess. Somebody somewhere has fucked up in a big way, and has to be held accountable.
But I don't know who.
They are the ones that came up with all this bullshit, to defend their actions, they should be tried for murder.
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effendi
I don't think the police on the ground did much wrong. They had their orders and instructions so had little alternative to shoot him.Why don't we start with the lying fucking police?The whole thing is a sorry mess. Somebody somewhere has fucked up in a big way, and has to be held accountable.
But I don't know who.
They are the ones that came up with all this bullshit, to defend their actions, they should be tried for murder.
They were ordered to shoot a suspect if positive ID had been provided and the suspect ran - he ran.
They identified themselves by shouting 'police' yet he still advanced toward them. Could he have been carrying a small incendiary device? The officer who shot him certainly seemed to think so and I would say that he has specific training in this field.
Given their orders and given the positive ID that they received, I cannot think too badly of them.
Higher up the chain of command, tho', the people who issued the blanket statement 'Shoot the suspect if he runs' and the people who wrongly identified the man as Hussain Osman are culpable.
Also, the cover-up and misinformation distributed by the police (one presumes) about him jumping the barrier, having a heavy coat on etc. -this needs to be dealt with in an official manner.
I plan on beating him to death with his kids. I'll use them as a bludgeon on his face. -
--Good for them if they survive.
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Was it the Police who issued the original version of what happened, or was that put together by reporters.
It is unlike the Met to issue statements regarding this type of thing if they themselves have not held an enquiry
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I plan on beating him to death with his kids. I'll use them as a bludgeon on his face. -
--Good for them if they survive.
effendi
It did run in all newspapers, so it's unlikely they all made up the coat and barrier leap story.
I can only assume it came from an official source.
Naturally, I stand to be corrected on that assumption.
I plan on beating him to death with his kids. I'll use them as a bludgeon on his face. -
--Good for them if they survive.
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