he was probably doin something else illegal too.
he was probably doin something else illegal too.
would the owner of a wi-fi be able to tell which laptop is using their connection? How is the ID of a connection made, and can it be changed?
knob jockey
Im pretty sure his router will keep a list of mac adresses that have accessed it and since its unique to your computer it would not be hard to prove it is you. but he will not be able to find out exactly where you are.
just dont use all his bandwidth or pick odd times when most people are in bed and he will probably never know you are using his connection.
If I'm using a torrent program, will the file I'm downloading be tracked?
thanks for all the info guys
>H
In my albeit limited experience, if they haven't secured their network, they know dick all about what they're doing. In the places i've lived recently I've twice found completely open networks & that I could log into the router with default passwords. Also some (many?) routers don't have url logs, and chances are they wouldn't know how to use it.
I think htere are things you can do to hide you mac address, but its unnecessary as they won't be able to trace where you are and unless they're sure where you are they won't be able to check the mac address on your computer.
I think 4 play's advice is good, just resist the temptation to use it excessively (you'll probably cave eventually)and the other person will likely jsut think they've got a crappy connection. If you use it too much, chances are they'll figure out someone else is on and enable the security.
Not too sure about the legal things, if they don't secure it at all, then they're basicallly broadcasting and there wouldn't be any actual hacking involved?
Edit: for the torrent, probably the best the log of the router can do is provide a list of ip addresses for hte people who you downloaded the file from (but no details of the actual file)
Last edited by ilw; 08-11-2005 at 10:57 PM.
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If you can access the Gateway and log in as Admin you can disable the web url catcher and logs......... But of course the only way to log in as Admin is if the password and username is the defaults. Cause if the person changed it, they you wouldnt know the login info (you could hack it but bleh). But chances are, if you can connect to the router without a key (thats default) then they probably have the default login info. However, I do not recommend screwing the owner to making huge ass changes as it is his internet. Hacking just isnt cool.
Actually, I was able to do this. My friend has a router with the defaults (no key for wireless and default admin name and password). So all I had to do was connect and log onto the gateway. There I could make admin changes like disable/enable whatever. But in the end i didnt do anything cause it was my friend's router. I just told him to secure it.... The worst part is that the router wasnt even connected to the net! It was just for his computers to access his printer.
Last edited by erRor67; 08-12-2005 at 12:23 AM.
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my router doesnt have the url grabber feature
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i don't see how you using his connection is even illegal if it is unsecured. Go ahead and use it, but if they find out they will figure out how to secure the broadcast and you will not be able to use it anymore without doing something illegal. so like the others said, use it wisely and you will always have access to it.
Chew E. Bakke
Having just moved into a new flat I was rather surprised to find my PDA would connect to someone's wireless LAN and give me access to the internet.
I was pleased when I installed a wireless network card in my PC and it connected straight to the net (Shareaza works fine, too!) but was a little nonplussed to find the owner hadn't changed the admin user/password for the router. He has entered his email on the log notification page (although logs are disabled) so I could tell him about it...
Nah, I think I'll just carry on with the free broadband safe in the knowledge that if he notices, he'll have no way of finding me.
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)and the other person will likely jsut think they've got a crappy connection. If you use it too much, chances are they'll figure out someone else is on and enable the security. 
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