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    How much more of this? My dad was telling me that Bush Sr. said that if he didn't pull troops out of middle east when he did, they would've been stuck for 10 years. Then Bush Jr. does the samething his father said shouldn't be done. I'll try to find the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by whypikonme
    Only if you promise not to critique the whole site.
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    Why, because the author is a Baha'i, that's a bit harsh.

    They're decent spuds.
    Wonder how much he made selling those pics to the media?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rat Faced
    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Why, because the author is a Baha'i, that's a bit harsh.

    They're decent spuds.
    Wonder how much he made selling those pics to the media?
    Here's his conclusion page

    http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jpdesm/penta...en-conclu.html

    Here's a link from his site, might appeal to you and The, RF.

    http://www.oilempire.us/
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    Quote Originally Posted by maebach
    How much more of this? My dad was telling me that Bush Sr. said that if he didn't pull troops out of middle east when he did, they would've been stuck for 10 years. Then Bush Jr. does the samething his father said shouldn't be done. I'll try to find the book.

    Trying to eliminate Saddam [in 1991], extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guidelines about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in 'mission creep', and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs... Would have have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those circumstances, there was no viable 'exit strategy' we could see, violating another of our principles... Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different - and perhaps barren - outcome.". (quoted in Losing America, pg 154)

    ..."A World Transformed" George Bush
    A more likely reason is that the Arab countries (and a good few others in the coalition) were really pissed off about Iraqi troops being buried alive by Americans in one action, and also about the "Highway of Death"...

    The UN resolution also only gave authority to go to the Iraqi borders, it was quite specific about that.

    To have attempted to invade would have done more than broke up the coalition, it would have left around 500,000 troops surrounded by enemies on all sides, with no practical way to re-supply them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rat Faced
    Correct.. except that the act of compression also slows the fall down.

    The rubble outside fell at the same speed as the building.. this, for me is evidence of a controlled demolition.
    The initial act of collapse would have created a huge weight gain, a sudden push downwards, like hitting the floors below with a sledgehammer.

    l cannot see any rhyme or reason in demolishing the buildings, it would mean planting explosives in the building first, and coordinating that with the highjackers, why would they have commited suicide if it were an American plot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whypikonme
    Quote Originally Posted by Rat Faced
    Correct.. except that the act of compression also slows the fall down.

    The rubble outside fell at the same speed as the building.. this, for me is evidence of a controlled demolition.
    The initial act of collapse would have created a huge weight gain, a sudden push downwards, like hitting the floors below with a sledgehammer.

    l cannot see any rhyme or reason in demolishing the buildings, it would mean planting explosives in the building first, and coordinating that with the highjackers, why would they have commited suicide if it were an American plot?
    considering a building like this has never collapsed from fire, they needed to make sure they went down.

    whether or not it could have crushed itself, there would have been some resistance, the towers fell almost at terminal velocity onto themselves.


    the suicide front was to make it look like muslims did it

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    Quote Originally Posted by GepperRankins
    .. the suicide front was to make it look like muslims did it
    So who flew the planes?

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    remote control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GepperRankins
    remote control?
    What about the passengers, wouldn't they have noticed the man outside the window with the remote?

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    i'm guessing they'd have used something with a longer range than a tv remote.


    remember most of the hijackers are still alive and thinking wtf

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