I just use my ISP's otherwise I would have to pay for connection to one.
I just use my ISP's otherwise I would have to pay for connection to one.
There are many discussion threads on this topic.
If you're lucky enough to have a ISP that (still) offers good usenet service and you're happy with it, then there's probably no need to look any further.
An Excerpt from: A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace
by John Perry Barlow
Read more hereGovernments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather [...] I declare the global social space we are building to be naturally independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us.
Well, as virtually all (and I mean ALL) isp's in the U.S. have long ago killed their usenet operations, or, for those who contracted out xxx bytes to Giganews or whoever, is....
Zilch now. Those threads are pretty long in the tooth. Again, most isp's are intent on eliminating anything that might actually get those paying users to USE some of the bandwidth they buy (oh horrors! ), and now the big fight (going on in the regulatory agencies like the FCC), is can they shape, delay, skew, restrict, or otherwise mangle their 'users' (the idea that those folks are 'paying customers' long ago having bitten the dust) connections is in high form right now.
In other words, they want your money without actually giving you any value in return. This is known as 'business'. As in... 'giving you the...'
Last edited by Beck38; 10-27-2009 at 02:34 AM.
Sadly, most non-European ISPs never had decent binary usenet, and I agree that over the last 2 years all but a few US ISPs canceled ISP-provided usenet access completely.
However, I can name one major American ISP that still has outstanding usenet service: Charter - which (in my experience) offers unlimited & unthrottled access to Highwinds' server. Other than its one-week header retention and lack of SSL (& no access to Highwinds' European server), Charter's free usenet service is essentially no different from a typical pay-provider like Newshosting costing $15/mo. Hopefully Charter's bankruptcy won't change things.
Just browse through the topics in the newsgroup forum; its hard to miss. Debating usenet providers is one of the main things we do here. (I myself am a fan of block accounts (Astraweb, Blocknews, etc) because I'm not a heavy downloader and the purchased bytes never expire)
In case you somehow can't find any, here's one of many, many discussions:
Which Usenet provider do you use, and how happy are you with it?
I'm curious, what is your ISP and what is their usenet service like?
I'm scared to say now, for fear they read this post
Virtually all, because my ISP still has newsgroup access
I've searched Google before but it didn't help much. Funny thing though is about a year ago I was able to use Cox's newsgroup access for free even though they werent my ISP. I found a list of ISPs that supported newsgroups and the connection info and tried them all. Thats as good as a list as I had and now they only work if they are your ISP. If you can tell me what "terms" to search for that might help. Google can find a lot of stuff, but sometimes you have to feed it the proper stuff to find what you need for more obscure topics.
My ISP has a very limited usenet service about 10days retention so i subscrive to Ngroups
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