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Thread: Christian Convert Faces Death Penalty

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    apparently authoritys say that even if they let him go, there is a good chance that rioting crowds would "tear him to bits".- actual discription on the radio
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Has the U.N. weighed in?
    Should the UN weigh in?

    Should the UN determine what, if anything, merits the death penalty for every country? - Perhaps so.

    It was only a few hundred years ago that apostasy earned the death penalty in Christendom - often with a bit of torture thrown in for good measure.

    My own view is that the charge is insane and that religion cannot operate by compunction. However we cannot berate the UN over this one. After all it is US and UK forces that largely maintain the peace in that country. If he is executed, and I hope he isn't, then we are partly complicit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Has the U.N. weighed in?
    Should the UN weigh in?

    Should the UN determine what, if anything, merits the death penalty for every country? - Perhaps so.
    I like this point. The death penalty is considered immoral, yet the USA has it in some states (I am for it in some cases but not all). We wouldn't accept UN opinion telling us what justifies the death penalty.

    Apparently after becoming an atheist I have no knowledge of or credibility to comment on religious issues..... But I will anyway and say that any religious belief that justifes killing someone for changing religions is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles

    Should the UN weigh in?

    Should the UN determine what, if anything, merits the death penalty for every country? - Perhaps so.
    I like this point. The death penalty is considered immoral, yet the USA has it in some states (I am for it in some cases but not all). We wouldn't accept UN opinion telling us what justifies the death penalty.

    Apparently after becoming an atheist I have no knowledge of or credibility to comment on religious issues..... But I will anyway and say that any religious belief that justifes killing someone for changing religions is wrong.
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    The death penalty is wrong.

    So for anyone to support it, under their own value system, but to then decry others for using it is arguing that their value system is superior to that of others. I know that is stating the obvious, but I just thought I would mention it.

    Oh and just so there's no doubt, they consider their values superior to your's as well, so it's all good.

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    I just can't figure why the U.N. would miss an opportunity to inveigh in it's accustomed feckless fashion over the slightest injustice.

    Actually, I appreciate that it hasn't commented; I was being ironical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Apparently after becoming an atheist I have no knowledge of or credibility to comment on religious issues..... But I will anyway and say that any religious belief that justifes killing someone for changing religions is wrong.
    Oh, stop.

    I'll agree with you this once.
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    I guess all the Christian Peacemaker Teams are in Iraq eating ice cream , safe and sound thanks to the Brit , Usa , and Can. Special forces .


    All 3 of them .


    Ah I 'm being harsh and don't mean to be . It's just that one of j2k4's posts in anouther thread made sence about the 3 hostages being freed . Sorry for spouting off .
    Last edited by peat moss; 03-25-2006 at 04:29 AM.

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    "Had your Lord willed, all the people on earth would have believed. So can you compel people to believe?" The Quran(Yunus 10: 99).

    This verse from The Holy Koran clearly states that no one can be force to believe even though we want them to.

    Here's a better answer from a an Islamic Scholar:

    http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503548996

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    Doesn't that contradict Sharia Law tho' which does impose the death penalty for apostasy. Or am I picking something up wrong.

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