Trackers vs. traders

**dbmp** · 08-21-2007, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

Originally Posted by berry89

i join your site by trading succesfully btw , first, there is not script at least in the site i know,second, there is much lazy staff that not take seriously their job/hobby, third, staff can ban every suspect trader but they never feel/know 100% and you will not gonna tell me that because of ip changing,isp change,foreign ip,proxy,etc that mean a trade account, it could be the same person , and now people start giving account+mail. this is just like pirating , they dont know to stop us but they can put same rules to limiting it. but is not gonna be 100% effective. so i think at this moment that a site can detect trading activity is only 10% caught,90% succesfully traded. they must improved more, not allowing email change is one of the great point for prevent account trading in this year. anyway there some site that i hear they are very obsessive with traders like ftn, and they are doing a good job. for my opinion this is just a rumor because i have succesfully traded 2 times in there and no banning notice since now. maybe luck? well then all in this live is just about luck and nothing else matter.

Why exactly would you need 2 accounts on the same tracker?
Also you probably slipped by when I was on vacation or before I added the scripts I use. (About 4 - 5 months ago)
I dont even need to check email changes. And I have yet to see 1 user who was disabled for trading that wasnt trading.

Generally when you trade an account... you would notice client switches or speed changes on the downloads/seeds. (Just to give you another idea how to be caught.)

Anyone can decide to change clients, and even to get a better ISP, or better speed package withing the same ISP...

Admins can't decide who to ban based *just* on that...

**saulin** · 08-21-2007, 09:38 AM

Melvin is not lying. I got a tophos account for free without a trade and it lasted me about 1 day.

But I got back in cause registrations opened

**Melvinmeow** · 08-21-2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by JaZZ2007

Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

Generally when you trade an account... you would notice client switches or speed changes on the downloads/seeds. (Just to give you another idea how to be caught.)

what happens when a user upgrades his connection or he changes his ISP to one who has better services (better download/upload speed) ... he will be banned too?

I didnt say they would be banned.
Im giving an example of how some can be spotted using other methods than just simply looking for email/password changes like most of you guys would normally think of.

Anyone can decide to change clients, and even to get a better ISP, or better speed package withing the same ISP... Admins can't decide who to ban based *just* on that...

Technically the staff on sites can ban you for any reason they want. Or for no reason for that matter.
It all depends on the site. Being a member on a site is a privledge and not a right or requirement. They have no contract or anything saying that you are guarenteed to keep your account.
(However youll probably notice sites that ban multiple users for no reason often get known for doing so. So probably wouldnt last that long.)

I personally am not against giving invites to your friends or other people you have met.
Im more against ACCOUNT trading.

**fook3d** · 08-21-2007, 11:42 AM

If i ever decide to move to america (I have thought about it before) please remind me to not be a member at melvins site before then

Wonder how long it would take to be banned with IP change, ISP change and speed change all in the same day

Edit: All the traders screw it for themselves imo, I would think alot of accounts get disabled because of the email and passwords changed. Traders can never really trust each other, Whereas if you was inviting real friends, Those 2 things wouldnt need to be changed, After all, Friendship = Trust, So wouldnt need to change them anyway

**JaZZ2007** · 08-21-2007, 11:43 AM

i'm new in this forum but i can say that i'm against account and invite trading. if i have an account i don't use i delete it my self (if i can) and when i have some spare invites i will give them away

**jasperr** · 08-21-2007, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

I personally am not against giving invites to your friends or other people you have met.
Im more against ACCOUNT trading.

hmmmm............ speaking of that MM, is that why invites are disabled at your site?? and are they ever gonna be enabled again???

**Melvinmeow** · 08-21-2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by jasperr

Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

I personally am not against giving invites to your friends or other people you have met.
Im more against ACCOUNT trading.

hmmmm............ speaking of that MM, is that why invites are disabled at your site?? and are they ever gonna be enabled again???

Invites are disabled on my site...

For the main reason that too many sceners were getting invited to my site by traders. Hence where the "dont invite people you dont know" on many sites comes from. Ive seen a trade posted (on another trader forum "non FST") where a scener offered 10 Oink accounts and 10 SCT accounts for 1 Account on my site. This scener belonged to the group "Chr0me". (Chrome is acctually a really nice group despite this fact. They acctually have accounts on my site now that they didnt have to trade for.) I have also seen a member of "Neptune" offer 10 FTN accounts with buffers elsewhere for 1 invite to my site. (These assclowns got banned and then tried to bribe me with $500 to enable their account. Needless to say they are still banned so guess it shows I dont take to bribes like some other sites do.)
Also just last week I seen Camera trying to offer someone $$$ for an account. (Due to the fact I banned all their, Canalstreet, Rustlers accounts a few weeks back.)

Torrenters giving/trading INVITES in general is not an issue for me. Its the fact that the assclowns like Neptune, MVS, Canalstreet, Camera, Rustlers, ect... get in due to the fact people making these trades are sending invites to people they dont know. I have more issues with scene groups getting on my site then the general public. They are a security risk due to the fact most scene groups I have caught on my site dont even use anything to hide their indentities. If I find them so easy what makes them think that authorities ect... cant find them?

Just because invites are disabled doesnt mean people dont get new accounts.

My theory is that im against account trading. Youll notice most people dont complain when they are found trading accounts on my site due to the fact im not normally an ass about it when I find them. Perhaps some of the people who I have acctually found and still use my site can comment as to my methods in dealing with those situations.

Im quite shocked no other staff from other sites have commented in this thread yet...

Invites will probably be enabled for a short time in a few weeks.