So I've been thinking...

[beat]

Which is where it all falls down, because account trading is tied in to that thread, and is not only allowed here but encouraged, just read the whole thread and it soon becomes apparent it's not all about invites but how hard it is to obtain a certain tracker by hook or by crook, or by invite or account trading in other words.

So, either keep to the topic and remove account trading, and let it remain about the invites (which will of course make your point more valid about where trackers belong within that ranking), or just be open about things and make it the trading bible thread, and let things continue as they are (which I have no doubt is what will happen), however, there might become a time for a good debate on the future of that thread, including the title, and whether you incorporate rules that includes invite AND account trading here (and what is or isn't allowed ie expecting a paid for service such as a seedbox in return for invites etc - invite selling by the back door!)

Oh, insert smiley of choice here before people get upset and accuse me of having a go - again!

Excellent point. You got my total support on this one. It's about time account trading is banned.
To be honest I think there is no need for the WIAW thread at all now that we have a good substitute for it ( https://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...ime-etc-235742 ). And Skizo I don't mean to be rude but there's one thing I don't understand, you always care so much about security and how trading puts us all at risk (which I agree 100%), so how do you support this and even "feed" it. You seem like a wise guy, I don't mean to judge you at all, I just had to sort this out.

P.S: Oh, almost forgot the smiley of forgiveness -

[Skiz]

maybe because they closed the signup and invitations indefinitely make it very hard to get account there, but that didnt mean to move them to lvl10 immediatly, because for example, black cats, there are 65,000 registered members, so most of the ppl already had thier account there, so the invite dont worth much. not like FTN, it has very less members than 65,000

That doesn't make invites any easier to obtain, as they don't exist.

Technically, it is easier to get an invite to FTN.

because people trade accounts (easily in some trackers)

for example black-cats accounts are traded very easily
e**** accounts will be disabled

the second point which is related to account trading is the number of people who are willing to trade accounts in that certain tracker, the more users u have the bigger likelihood of traders exist there.

This isn't about account trades. Again, the title of the thread is "What Invites Are Worth".

[Mayhem]

so change it to something like DTR: Desired Trackers Ratings, to better represent the actual level significance.

[Peter North]

Its not a bad idea, like some one said up there "...acc´s easily are trade", true, but think, wend Uk-t´s and rabbit disable acc´s for trading, the ones that close the invites now, a few months ago were open for signups.
The ones that close invites, are not has worthy has the ones that are level 10.
So if you lost a BCG, doesn´t makes you ...
Instead if you lose a Uk acc, but that is all about the Admin of the trackers.

[Skiz]

Which is where it all falls down, because account trading is tied in to that thread, and is not only allowed here but encouraged, just read the whole thread and it soon becomes apparent it's not all about invites but how hard it is to obtain a certain tracker by hook or by crook, or by invite or account trading in other words.

So, either keep to the topic and remove account trading, and let it remain about the invites (which will of course make your point more valid about where trackers belong within that ranking), or just be open about things and make it the trading bible thread, and let things continue as they are (which I have no doubt is what will happen), however, there might become a time for a good debate on the future of that thread, including the title, and whether you incorporate rules that includes invite AND account trading here (and what is or isn't allowed ie expecting a paid for service such as a seedbox in return for invites etc - invite selling by the back door!)

Oh, insert smiley of choice here before people get upset and accuse me of having a go - again!

How do we encourage account trading?

Perhaps the topic should be renamed to "What Invites/Accounts Are Worth"?
Because the WIAW thread is all about rarity

Yes, invite rarity.

[greenwing]

That doesn't make invites any easier to obtain, as they don't exist.

Technically, it is easier to get an invite to FTN.

yea i know, but there is over 65,000 account over there for Black cats, and am sure they r not for 65,000 person, each one has 2 or 3 maybe, so they will start trading them especially that BCG dont disable account when someone change the email, so it will be account trading instead of invite. so it is not good idea to move it to lvl10, maybe 1 lvl up or 2 is enough. anyway this is my opinion

[Skiz]

Excellent point. You got my total support on this one. It's about time account trading is banned.
To be honest I think there is no need for the WIAW thread at all now that we have a good substitute for it ( https://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...ime-etc-235742 ). And Skizo I don't mean to be rude but there's one thing I don't understand, you always care so much about security and how trading puts us all at risk (which I agree 100%), so how do you support this and even "feed" it. You seem like a wise guy, I don't mean to judge you at all, I just had to sort this out.

P.S: Oh, almost forgot the smiley of forgiveness -

Account trading isn't going to be banned. Hearing incessant recommendations for such is just annoying. Tracker staff members have all been given the option to have account trading banned for their particular trackers and the offer is always on the table. The ones who have not requested it, I must assume just don't care about it. It really is that simple.

As for the security question, rating an invites rarity doesn't breach any sort of security barrier.

What members do with their invites is their own choice and I can't do anything about it.

I am also not going to be the WIAW thread holder for long. I'm looking to turn it over to another member who is responsible enough to care for it properly. If I can't find anyone in a month or so, I'll probably abandon it almost completely.

The information contained in it is useful, but I can't be arsed to fuck it on a full time basis.

[Nestea]

Because it's not worth.

[Skiz]

That doesn't make invites any easier to obtain, as they don't exist.

Technically, it is easier to get an invite to FTN.

yea i know, but there is over 65,000 account over there for Black cats, and am sure they r not for 65,000 person, each one has 2 or 3 maybe, so they will start trading them especially that BCG dont disable account when someone change the email, so it will be account trading instead of invite. so it is not good idea to move it to lvl10, maybe 1 lvl up or 2 is enough. anyway this is my opinion

If members take the thread out of context and consider the account to be "worth" more than another tracker, that's their deal. I'm just looking to rate the trackers invites and their rarity.

I really don't have any love for account traders or what they think of the system.

[Defy]

Didn't Grind$oFine create a thread awhile back about the rarity and levels FOR actual invites? I can't find it anywhere.