Ok this one first, Look at the Islamic state setup by the Prophet, to my understanding it was the first to perfectly setup a socialist kind of way that was sustained and was accepted by all.
Yes, but it was actually in-group solidarity. This form of solidarity is not at al unusual among tribes, villages, and social groups like that. How ever, I do admit that this form of solidarity is more unusual in larger social contexts. But, as you most certainly know, Muhammad used the pre-existing tribal structure in the early days. Therefore It might not be so strange to observe a typical in-group - or tribal like - type of solidarity in the beginning of the Muslim tradition.

[/QUOTE]But I did say that the Origins of socialism used now can be more clearly taken from the Jewish belief rather then the Islamic one as it is closer to the Ideals of the Jewish state then the Islamic one, where Islam gives 50% to materialism and 50% to spiritualism, basically has a more Religious side to it. [QUOTE]

I see your point, and I have to admit that the error is mine. I missed that part. But I do not intend to surrender that easily.

Instead I would like to point out the family resemblance in the abrahamic tradition. The in-group loyalty is characteristic, not only for islam, but also for the whole tradition. Take for instance Judaism, as you have pointed out they have several beautiful egalitarian principles, and I think it is reasonable to argue that they was/is most widely implemented in smaller social contexts. Prime examples of this would be contemporary hasedian sects and the smaller communities of the ancient world.

The pattern is obvious; first of all, the implementation of egalitarian ideals seems to be typical of young religious communities. Secondly, the implementation also seems to correlate with small social groups. Thirdly, the egalitarian credo is almost always only applied to the own social group.

Now when we have isolated the characteristics of the phenomena, we must ask ourselves, can we find this anywhere else? I, personally, believe so. I believe that this tradition can be traced in many religions, and interestingly enough, also in the common constructions of smaller social groups.

We also have to ask ourselves the question whether this type of idea/ideal is born out of a specific geographical and historical context, or if it is quite natural reaction on similar social circumstances. I, for my self, believe in the similarities of all humankind...

The question of origin is however difficult. We have almost certainly reduced this complex phenomenon when we discussed. Therefore a lot more could certainly be said about this interesting topic.

However, if I do not go to lunch now my wife will slowly roast me over a fire tonight.

Hope this stimulating discussion keeps on and that other people join in again....