Copy Windows Xp

[balamm]

Stop It!

Service packs are available via "the underground" because they either aren't official releases, they have been tampered with to create back doors and security flaws, they are no longer offered by MS, or someone decided to host a useless file.

My MAC addresses change when I want them to. Hourly if I decide there's a need.
It does not affect registration!

An install CD is released with about 15 masters, each capable of using a set number of 5x5 keys. If for example there are 15 5x5 key combinations built into a released master, then potentially, according to you, only 225 computers may ever install XP home?
It doesn't work that way, sorry.
As long as you use a valid 5x5 key and use valid info in your registration, there are usually no problems.
When a 5x5 key is found to have been registered to a million machines, out of proportion to all other 5x5 keys, then that key will be investigated and possibly blacklisted. This is the reason that some master/5x5 combos are difficult to register.
Solution, edit WPA - reg done. This is the main step in most cracks. Some go on to disable communication of details to MS through the removal or modification of other reg keys.
It's an extremely simple process. Even with server side authentication, there are ways around it.
If they make it, someone somewhere can and will crack it.

[Russo]

Originally posted by balamm@24 November 2003 - 21:15
An install CD is released with about 15 masters, each capable of using a set number of 5x5 keys. If for example there are 15 5x5 key combinations built into a released master, then potentially, according to you, only 225 computers may ever install XP home?
It doesn't work that way, sorry.

Sources please.

I hope your not saying there are only 225 keys world wide for XP Home

[Russo]

Originally posted by balamm@24 November 2003 - 21:15
Even with server side authentication, there are ways around it.
If they make it, someone somewhere can and will crack it.

Please explain this one for me. i want to hear that.

And do so in the Games Folder so everyone can know how to connect to a multiplayer server that REQUIRES a serial authentication to connect.

[james_bond_rulez]

balamm u take that one i am tired of no0bs

[Johnny_B]

Originally posted by Russo@24 November 2003 - 20:11
when you go to the update page MS reads your ID and determines if its registered yet. if its not registered you dont get your updates.

Why do you think the Service Packs are available as seperate releases underground on P2P netwroks. because thats the ONLY way to update a XP machine that is not registered by MS

You need to do some more research

^^This doesn't make any sense.

Windows XP SP1 ships with a list of the two product IDs that are created by the pirated VLKs. To determine eligibility for the update, Windows XP SP1 compares the Windows XP product ID on the system to this list. The comparison and the list reside locally on the user's computer; no information is sent to Microsoft as part of this process. The Windows XP SP1 installation will fail on computers with the following product IDs:

XXXXX-640-0000356-23XXX
XXXXX-640-2001765-23XXX

SOURCE

According to the above article, the list of pirated IDs ship with service packs and the comparison is made by the service pack during the installation and not remotely by Microsoft.
Therefore, downloading "underground" service packs is the same as downloading network installations of service packs directly from Microsoft (not the same as downloading through Windows Update).

Here it is:
SP1a Network Installation for Windows XP Home & Pro

However, the "underground" service packs you download, like balamm said, probably contain backdoors or may not be final releases.
They can also be older service packs that are no longer provided by Microsoft (like SP1 that included MS Virtual Java Machine which was then removed in SP1a).

Of course you can probably get the network installation from people who are sharing it.
But what's the point if you can get it directly from Microsoft?

[john54321]

Why don't people keep this simple rather than going on about some pointless crap.


The simplest way to beat the activation system, whether you have XP Home or XP Pro (retail versions) is by using a keygen to give yourself an unique serial number.

If you do this you wont need to worry about Updates and service packs, because as far as microsoft are concerned you own a legit version.

If you have an OEM version you want to copy (for yourself or friend), then the best option is to activate by phoning microsoft to tell them you have upgraded your PC. This way you can have the same XP installed on 2 computers.

This is all the information you need. No need to waste your time searching for useless cracks or downloading files you can't trust and worrying if the next service pack will shutdown your OS.

The guy only asked for advice on copying his Windows XP

[muchspl2]

go directly to hell
do not pass go
and collect 1 STFU


running windows without security updates is reckless, and your comment is neck in neck with the most ignorant comment in this thread, and that says allot, so kudos to that

[john54321]

There needs to be clarification about the different versions of windows. There are five main versions - Home (retail), Pro (retail), Home (oem), Pro (oem) and Corporate (corp for short). Theres is also a media version, but we dont need to discuss that.

Both the retail versions need to be activated. The other three do not.

OEM versions will only work on the machines they are developed for (unless you use my phone activation method).

Coporate version does not need activation at all. Some people confuse this version for Pro, because they are exactly the same except that the Corp is pre-activated.

The Corp version is essentially XP Pro developed for large coporations with many PC's. Imagine the problems these companies would have if they had to activate all their computers individually.

With the Corp version you can use the same serial many times, on many of your machines without worrying about microsoft blocking your system.


Hope this clarifies things.

[balamm]

Originally posted by Russo@24 November 2003 - 14:27

Sources please.

I hope your not saying there are only 225 keys world wide for XP Home

There are probably less than 225 keys world wide. This was just an example. I would be surprised if there were more than 100 5x5 key sets for any MS release.

Microsoft released this fix for system admins after they blacklisted the keys Johnny_B mentioned. Why? Because many legitimate copies of the master that had used those stolen keys were in use around the world. Instead of replacing the operating system, an ominous or even impossible task in some cases, simply use another acceptable key that this master would recognize.

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6270-5034890.html

Look hard enough and you'll find this posted on the MS site.

You want sources?
I paid for my education bud. You either pay me or you get your education the same way I did.
I've been active in the development and testing of three MS operating systems now.
I've played beta tester and consultant. I've installed and run every OS Microsoft has released, and some they haven't released. I've administered a windows 2000 advanced server installation for almost 2 years. I've been invited to many Microsoft developer and programmer conferences.
I had Openwave shut down for almost a day after I discovered a back door into their corporate emails. My honesty landed me a developers account with them as well.
What do I know? I know shit compared to some people here.
You though, grossly over estimate yourself in this field.
Listen and learn. It's free.
All the sources you could ever need are right here Sources
No, I won't tell you how to beat server side authentication.
Not because it's against some rule, but because I run a server. If you have the brains, you'll figure it out yourself.
You want to learn more about SSL, SSH, and Kerberos, try http://www.sans.org
Or sign up with MS as a developer or beta tester. You'll get access to the MS newsgroups, admin forums, product previews, etc., depending on your interests and experience.

Try telling your XP home story there though and they'll eat you alive!

[Russo]

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basi...ion/mpafaq.asp

Q. Is there rechecking of the activation done after initial activation? Is there any secret data transfer to Microsoft?

YES

A.The product does check itself from time to time to see if it is activated and if it is still on the same PC on which it was originally activated. At no time whatsoever is information transferred to Microsoft as a result of Product Activation except while the user is actually in the process of activating the product. There absolutely is no "secret" data transfer.

Q.How does Microsoft identify the computer's hardware?



A.Microsoft Product Activation detects the hardware configuration on which the product is being installed and creates hash values for that configuration. A hash is a value mathematically derived from another value - in this case hardware configuration values. Product Activation does not scan the customer's hard drive, detect any personal information, or determine the make, model or manufacturer of the PC or its components. Microsoft uses hash values out of respect for users' privacy. A hash value cannot be backwards calculated to determine the original value. In addition, Microsoft only uses a portion of the original hash values. Together, these hash values become the complete hardware hash that is included in the installation ID.

Q.What about the Windows Update check of the product key? And also during activation the product key is now provided? How does Microsoft know whether a customer is using pirated or genuine product key in these instances? And what about privacy in these matters, as the check is occurring on the Microsoft end?

A.For Windows Update, the product key and product ID are verified by Windows Update. There is no link to the activation system. Once the product key and product ID are validated, they are discarded; neither the key nor the ID are maintained after the validation check.

For activation after SP1 has been installed, Microsoft uses the product key as part of the Installation ID to determine if it is legitimate. If it is not legitimate, the activation request is denied. In this case, the product key (along with the entire installation ID) is kept as part of the error record. Remember that no personally identifiable information is required to activate.


I have talked to a lot of people on the internet trying to update a pirated XP. and they cant do it through the MS update page