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[shaina]

A couiple of things that bear on US politics you may or may not hear elsewhere:
Three years into the Biden administration, and the essential imperative of Democrats is to take down Donald Trump - to the detriment of any-and-everything else.
Coincidentally, there is no denying Biden's basically pro-Israel rhetoric; even if he favored a cease-fire out of concern for Palestinian innocents, domestic Muslims are only 17% pro-Biden, so I don't have to argue too hard to proffer that precise population constitutes the entirety of those who would tolerate the continued existence of Israel.

Sorry buddy, if you think i am leaving you out on responses
What can i say other than you are right!!!....

What really amazes me is the first thing you see posted from the ignorant is "Fox News"??
Yet i watch all news outlets and then speak to friends that have people on the Ground be it Ukraine and Israel , and it is amazing what media outlets ends up closest to the truth!!!.

I understand Underdog syndrome?? j
But when there is good and there is evil!!!... What do you do??

Now look and reverse that?? If you take the perspective of the other side?? Why the fuck are you living in the US or the UK or Israel?? Why not Russia or Iran?? or China?? or any Terrorist Socialist Communist place??
If you choose there way of life why don't you pack your bags and move?? Why try change another populace?? Especially if the majority are happy??

Do they call that Radicalism?? Do they call that Ignorance?? What the fuck do you call that??

Example.... TRUTH!!!!, my wife was in the hospital again, in the next bed was an 18 year old girl with issues, speaking to the parents, they were from Ukraine!!!(been in Canada a long time).. So how was there journey to end up in Canada??

Well from the Russian sector of Ukraine to Israel to Canada!!!!, And have not chosen to move anywhere else yet...

They saw me watching CNN because that was the only news outlet you could get on the tv other than CityPulse TV which is basically CNN!!!

And they called it all bullshit and Propaganda!!! Again where did they Live before Canada??!!!!

So what does that tell you??

[shaina]

My wife is sleeping so i have a few minutes to make this post..........

This is to all the ignoramuses here and you know who you are......

The Gaza animal terrorists have been lobbing/shooting rockets into Israel since the second year they have taken control !!!

Israel has tolerated it and only t retaliated when it killed Israelis, now lets get this into your heads what goes on the ground in Israel!!!!!!

I have never heard a fucking peep from any of you nor did you give two shits about rockets being sent into Israel for fucking years!!!!??

And we are talking rockets that have no specific target meaning military ??!!! Theses rockets are sent into civilian areas period not knowing where they are going to land,

Hence bomb shelters and missile defense systems built/designed to keep Israeli citizens kind of safe again not everything is full safe proof!!!!!

What did the Animal Terrorists in Gaza build to protect there terrorists citizens??

All i hear is Israel was a bad mistake and blame Israel for everything LOL!!! And funny you have no fucking clue what Israel had done to your lives to make it better LOL!!! Hence you are an Ignorant Joke



Now you talk Annihilation!!, Extermination!!, End the Siege!!! (Yet Egypt there brothers don't let them in yet give a fuck about them!!), End the Genocide!!!!,

Now lets take a look at that??

These Animal Terrorists live on donated scraps that Hamas gives them and all they do is fuck like rabbits and make more Terrorists babies !!!, meaning there education taught by UNRAW is to hate hate hate!!!, and destroy Israel that they claim doesn't exists yet they want to destroy it..


Yet Israel thrives and builds and now and for years behind the shadows , Arab countries have done business with?? Strange huh??

Now the only genocide is what this Animal Terrorists just did to Israel period !!!!!

It is now coming out in the open even know it was known and ignored , that these Animals in Gaza store there military in Schools or next to, Mosques, Hospitals, Moving Aid vehicles, Civilian Areas, and all under!!!! Miles and Miles of Tunnels!!!! That no supposed civilians can use for safe haven!!!!!

So how do you fight Animals like this?? And keep your morals as a true Democratic Society after what they fucking did?? I can tell you that is not easy for sure but and i say but, war is war and any considered military target is open to save and protect civilian lives in Israel period, there is no proportion in war!!!! All the Terrorists Animals will be dead and deserved to be dead period!!!!...

And lets do some fun facts with the ignorant.... If Israel wanted to commit Genocide, they could level Gaza to complete rubble above and below in less than an hour !!!! Period!!!! and there would be no one living Period!!! and Israel would not lose over 300 soldiers (over 30 in Gaza) like they have

Think about the ignorant and how they interpret how and what a war should look like

End like this.......

Truth is i really do Blame Israel for all of this!!!, with the best intelligence than anyone else in the fucking world!!! Who the fuck let/ allowed all this armament into Gaza!!??? In the sky when they didn't see progress and kept allowing all the Cement!!! Building supplies!!! and zero progress on the ground???!!
That should have never happened period!!!!!!

And you fucking ignoramuses!!! With all the fucking bombing and destruction you claim in GAZA!!!! These Animals are still popping out of tunnels and shooting rockets into Israel to this fucking day!!!! 30 days of bombing !!! and this is still going on!!!!

End.....

Until every Animal Terrorists is fucking dead!!! There should be no fucking PAUSE!!! no fucking CEASE FIRE!!!! fucking nothing!!!
Until the Rockets stop or destroyed!!! and every Animal is gone!!! and i mean every one no matter where they hide!!!!
And that is Israel's specialty !!!!!!

Peace and quite........ !!!!!!!!!

Then we will see the future of GAZA and Judea and Samaria

The END. and no more posts for me about this fucking subject!!!!!!

[megabyteme]

Goodgawd that's a lot of words.

Unfortunately, none of those words changes the fact that on May 16, 1948 Jewish settlers were pushed into a land that wasn't theirs and literally everything that has resulted since has been because of how that was done.

Yes, there are 'terrorists' who oppose the taking of that land. They always will.

No matter how much good is done by Israel, it won't change that fact.

No matter how many people are dehumanized and murdered, that fact remains.

No matter how many bad regimes use Israel as an excuse for their own atrocities, that fact remains.

Being opposed to *how* Israel was 'created' is not antisemitic.

Being opposed to Israel's current murdering of Palestinians is not antisemitic.

The West betrayed the Arab world by the *way* Israel was 'created'. Endless death and tension has resulted ever since.


It seems like history is filled with people taking things they were militarily capable of taking then those who were wronged/murdered endlessly being angered by the murdering and/or subjecting and dehumanizing of those wronged.

[j2k4]

Let's keep it simple, then:

Hamas attacked Israel, in the most vicious and inhumane ways possible - not merely to take lives, but doing so in ways designed to outrage and disgust observers.

Israel responded with methods intended to address indiscriminate incoming rocket-fire, intending to take out these rockets - this response resulted in innocent Palestinian lives lost, this owing to Hamas' tactic of holding Palestinian civilians in the same locations from which Israeli-bound rockets were being launched.

This is a universally-favored tactic of TERRORISTS.

I am compelled to ask:

If somehow Israel managed to kill 100% of Hamas personnel without harming non-Hamas Palestinians, would that be acceptable?

[j2k4]

Further, how about we refer henceforth to Gaza as Palestine?

[shaina]

Goodgawd that's a lot of words.

Unfortunately, none of those words changes the fact that on May 16, 1948 Jewish settlers were pushed into a land that wasn't theirs and literally everything that has resulted since has been because of how that was done.

So trying a History Lesson.....

So are you saying there was no attachment or Jewish people on the land now called Israel ??

Was that the same with Trans Jordan??

You think your words are correct in explaining what happened during the Holocausts??

Jewish people and others lived peacefully across the Middle East oh ignorant one

What happened to all of them?? Did they get any compensation for being removed forcefully of there land which they can prove today they owned??

Why don't you look up "Black September" oh ignorant one and see what happened then and what should be happening now, yet that is never used what happened in history and maybe if it did Israel wouldn't be looked at like propaganda ignorant people like you do

If Trump was still President the Middle East would look much different !!! 3 Years of Biden fucked it all UP!!!!

The 2 State solution is possible just not what the Made up Palestinians will agree to unless that is forced by other Arab nations!!!, How every you use ignorance history has Made Israel and now being accepted by now changing pragmatic Arab countries are now realizing it!!!!! Hate is not going to get you anything!!!
And name another place in the Middle East where you have every faith living in it?? Including LGBQ??


Keep this in mind....

Yes, there are 'terrorists' who oppose the taking of that land. They always will.

Again explain taking the land from who?? What was the true population there?? and who owned land and can prove it??

You do know the history of wars on that land right??

And the majority of those people that chose to leave and not fight for there land how many still live today??

Yet there are millions still living in poverty not given any rights in neighbouring countries waiting for Israel to be destroyed by Radicals thinking they can come back??
And that growth is what over 100 times of the supposed people that thought they were entitled for "Right of Return" which will never happen!!!! Remember poverty and fuck like rabbits!!!! and multiple wives per Man!!!!
And i will make you a deal ignorant one!!! You broker a deal that the eight hundred thousand Jews that were forcefully pushed out of there homes in all the Arab Countries, also have the entitlement to go back to there homes and live in peace!!!

Or did those people leave with the shirts on there backs and make better lives for there families elsewhere??

I will leave the Holocausts survivors out of it for there entitlement to move back to there homes!!!

And......
If large amounts of people come legally to your country are they taking land from you?? That sounds ignorant to me??
Yes in the back of there minds i can agree, but the same as everywhere in the world, education, Peace, "Abraham Accords" , you have to have hope that will change... Propaganda, Ignorance, the wrong education, doesn't help does it.....

No matter how much good is done by Israel, it won't change that fact.

See again ignorance doesn't help this, but countries seeing peace makes there lives for the better will, The same they may not like you, but society should teach you that history you learn from and every human has the right to live in peace, the same where you live and the land that was stolen from someone else....

Hope is all you can have

No matter how many people are dehumanized and murdered, that fact remains.

Again twisted religion, Jealousy , Power , Educators, and weak minds, can manipulate and twists, having and putting new life on earth, it is your responsibility to raise without hate, everyone is different, and we should all get along...
My teaching to my kids was always what you do in your home is your business, when you are with others you treat them with respect and if they try to harm you, you harm them back!!!!! If there is no way of walking away with safety......

No matter how many bad regimes use Israel as an excuse for their own atrocities, that fact remains

So how did every other Country fix this including the US where you live??

Being opposed to *how* Israel was 'created' is not antisemitic.

Really so how about where you live ignorant one?? You keep saying this and it is now over 70 years!!!??
The US and Canada is how old?? Are indigenous people trying to shoot missiles at you and trying to take your land back??
Or did education and evaluation change how people think??
Do you think the new indigenous generations are plotting to kill you?? Funny how did war look like then vs today??
Do you think they took the care to save lives or is that evaluation, or maybe Israel is being forced to a different standard??

Being opposed to Israel's current murdering of Palestinians is not antisemitic.

Oh ignorant one..... Twisting words like most Antisemitic one do LOL!!!!, "I have Jewish Friends so how can i be Anti Semitic" LOL!!
That is how the propagandists and ignorant get around any racism LOL!!!, Of course i will say it a better way for you, There is no such people in history called "Palestinians", and they have no land that is rightfully there's period!!! Jordan was partitioned for Arabs/Muslims to prosper the same time Israel was formed!!!
And if you disagree with that, you are just plain Ignorant in history my friend!!!
Now murdering of any innocent people anywhere is not right!!!
But when you have people that are leading you that have no interest in protecting you and are brainwashed in HATE of others!!!, and that Includes Christians and anyone living different than there choosing!!!

What do you do then??

The West betrayed the Arab world by the *way* Israel was 'created'. Endless death and tension has resulted ever since.

First of all there has always been bloodshed in the Middle East you ignorant moron!!!hi sunni and shiite have always been fighting, just no one cared!!

And yet it doesn't pre date Jewish people living on the Land called Israel now you moron!!!!

Again uneducated people on real estate in the middle east twist history to fit there narrative, not the truth...
Do you think there was no relatives that lived in middle east had no relatives that died in the holocausts ??
Again grow the fuck up and think logically before you type propaganda garbage please!!!
Jewish people have more roots in the land of Israel then any other faith, including Jesus Christ!!!!!
So.....

seems like history is filled with people taking things they were militarily capable of taking then those who were wronged/murdered endlessly being angered by the murdering and/or subjecting and dehumanizing of those wronged.

So are you saying you live on stolen land and have no problems with it??

How many people were murdered to give you the peace and property to raise your family and enjoy life on your piece of stolen land??

So if there was a 2 state solution with the Made up people and Israel?? Do you know there will be no Jewish people in that said land ever!!!??

And will there charter or Dictators still want to destroy the Democracy next to it??

History is history now there and everywhere!!!

If you lived in Israel, would you feel safe after what just happened, and trust a 2 state solution??

Why do you think the UK closed it borders?? Do you have any idea what is going on in Europe with no borders between the Middle East and Europe??

You seem to stick on one Propaganda position or call it ignorance as i have called it??

What is going on now in all the world is not just because the Jewish people my Ignorant friend, it is the beginning of much more, and it is showing on the streets everywhere!!!!
Jewish be it radical, religious , or moderate blend into society, the same with Christians, and moderate Muslims/Arabs, but radical Muslims!!!, Iran!!!!, do you think there intentions are to blend in to society??
The same with Radical Sunnis !!! 911!!!, do you think they want to blend??
18 million Jews tolerated, even jealousy or disliked tolerated
Billions of Muslims everywhere!!! and go crazy and take 10% are radical?? How many is that??
Gaza growth of population?? All they do is fuck and make more Terrorists!!! No work if they want to get paid they have to join a Terrorists organization!!!!
So again your ignorance of history causes Antisemitism!!! , that is just reality my friend

And when i see you take your family and leave your beautiful home you built and hand it over to the indigenous person that was killed so you have that luxury, then we can have a educated conversation

[megabyteme]

Your playback, while attempting to *seem* fact-based, completely neglects all of that history behind the Arab world's outrage and places the Arab world, once again, as the BAD guys.

If someone were to invade your personal home in the middle of the night, driving you out, then those invaders show that they are not only armed to the teeth, but also have friends who are willing to provide seemingly endless support and acts as 'authority' that those invaders are the 'rightful' owners of *your* home, the only tactics you would have would look a *lot* like terrorism.


The *only* historical course the killing of these 'terrorists' is to take-- as Shay has said numerous times now is to "kill them ALL", which is not only horrible but also HORRIBLY IRONIC considering the fact that The Holocaust is what gained the Jewish people the western world sympathy to insert them into the area in 1948...

[megabyteme]

The above was meant to address Kevin's comments, but there are similar answers to some of what you said in meantime, Shay

[megabyteme]

I have never been against the Jewish people. My arguments are always against the actions of the people in Israel.

I have never been against the creation of a Jewish homeland.

However, the 'creation' could not have been more horribly flawed. *THAT* is the root for all Israel (western)/Arab bloodshed since 1948.

[shaina]

Further, how about we refer henceforth to Gaza as Palestine?

How and why??

What would be the purpose of that J2K4??

Palestine doesn't exist?? At least not from any Democratic countries?? It will never exists !!! If any name it should be Occupied Egypt for now??

The same Area A and B in Judea and Samaria should be called Occupied Jordan for now??

As i said what Trump his team and Son Inlaw was changing the Middle East for good and Biden/Obama and all the terrorists lovers of Iran are fucking everything up!!!!!
None of this would have happened under Trump, that is just FACT!!!!