Pandemic

[shaina]

I blame Governor Abbot and the rest of his Republican posse. Houston had the virus under control until he decided to open up the economy/state and passed an ordinance *forbidding* county officials and mayors to require masks in public. You could see that train wreck coming from a mile away.

Show me a link where he said not to wear a mask?? Or did he say all the protocols and people are just not following them??

And really tell me when is it going to be time to open up the country??

You can't keep getting cheques from the Government, i don't want my kids paying for the rest of there lives to pay that debt.....

Think about there future....

[shaina]

I'm back at work, but we never stopped quarantining at home. I wear a PM2.5/N95 equivalent mask at work and at the few places I go.

Stay safe, my friends. You too, Idol.

I am not sure if i am still considered a friend knowing i would defiantly be a Republican if was American....

[shaina]

(of course I will!)[/I], I'll be looking at a half dozen or so of these...
https://about.underarmour.com/news/2...-ua-sportsmask

Well i just looked online here in Canada Stehle, and the next shipment date is UA SPORTSMASK *Ships by 8/17/20

[Caballero]

I blame Governor Abbot and the rest of his Republican posse. Houston had the virus under control until he decided to open up the economy/state and passed an ordinance *forbidding* county officials and mayors to require masks in public. You could see that train wreck coming from a mile away.

Show me a link where he said not to wear a mask?? Or did he say all the protocols and people are just not following them??

Here you go. --> https://www.texasmonthly.com/politic...t-mask-riddle/

"Abbott swept in with an order that clearly established that local officials could not impose penalties on anyone who refused to wear a mask.

“We make clear that no jurisdiction can impose any type of penalty or fine,” he said at the time. “My executive order, it supersedes local orders, with regard to any type of fine or penalty for anyone not wearing a mask.”

So basically he took the enforcement power away from the mayors and county judges. You know, for a party continually complaining about governmental overreach and advocating for "states' rights" (and by extension local governance) I am getting a lot of mixed messages here.

And really tell me when is it going to be time to open up the country??

You can't keep getting cheques from the Government, i don't want my kids paying for the rest of there lives to pay that debt.....

Think about there future....

Oh, absolutely agreed. But here's the thing. He came up with a plan to open up the state. Right or wrong, he set up a number of benchmarks and performance targets that would trigger each phase of reopening. I bet some of those were even based on scientific advice and expertise. And then he disregarded everythgng he said and did what he wanted anyway. For fcuk's sake, at one point he even announced the Phase 3 reopening on the same day that Phase 2 started, without even pretending to wait and see what the effects of Phase 2 would be. Are you seriously telling me that the results of this sh!tshow were not foreseeable?

People sacrificed for two months, behaved more or less responsibly and the virus was somewhat under control. All that sacrifice has now been flushed away, for nothing.

Yes, I am angry.

[megabyteme]

I'm back at work, but we never stopped quarantining at home. I wear a PM2.5/N95 equivalent mask at work and at the few places I go.

Stay safe, my friends. You too, Idol.

I am not sure if i am still considered a friend knowing i would defiantly be a Republican if was American....

No worries, Shay. My son has Down syndrome and I don't love him any less, I just don't discuss politics with him either...

[IdolEyes787]

I am not sure if i am still considered a friend knowing i would defiantly be a Republican if was American....

Apparently America's loss is Canada's loss as well.

[shaina]

People sacrificed for two months, behaved more or less responsibly and the virus was somewhat under control. All that sacrifice has now been flushed away, for nothing.
Yes, I am angry.

You know Cabby, this isolation will never stop this virus, only letting it ween out will... And you do notice that it is the younger people now that are popping

positive, and not showing any symptoms period,...

And what sacrifice did they do!!!, they fucking loved it!!! They made more money milking of the government then they did working, and now they got used to it!!!..

Again that whole article is garbage!!!, he always speaks the protocols, and tells what people should be doing... So now smart guy.....

You give these people huge fines for not following yet they can't afford to eat!!!, and i am not talking about the fucking people taking advantage of the free fucking

handouts!!!!.. I am talking about all of those small business owners, that need to get back to work, and want to get back to work....

There is no way to stop the spread, and hope peoples immunity finally just wears out the virus.. The same with H1N1....

I think we are on the same page here buddy, just how you get to the finish line may be different.....

Edit:....

Here is a question for a smart guy like you Cabby...

Why is it that the numbers of the Wohan China Virus positives are going up yet they don't mention or no one talks about the death rate

is way the fuck down??? Well i shouldn't say all the media or news stations don't mention this important stat

Do you have an explanation for that??

[shaina]

No worries, Shay. My son has Down syndrome and I don't love him any less, I just don't discuss politics with him either...

Truly i don't have any problem with that, there is lots to talk about that is positive other than politics, but i should add you probably don't like talking about politics

with your son because he is much more intelligent than you

I know it must be hard for you that you may have a child that is a Republican .....

[shaina]

I am not sure if i am still considered a friend knowing i would defiantly be a Republican if was American....

Apparently America's loss is Canada's loss as well.

HuH

[Caballero]

You know Cabby, this isolation will never stop this virus, only letting it ween out will... And you do notice that it is the younger people now that are popping positive, and not showing any symptoms period,...

Really? If nothing else, just read the headline. --> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/u...l-houston.html

And what sacrifice did they do!!!, they fucking loved it!!! They made more money milking of the government then they did working, and now they got used to it!!!..

Yes, because it always comes down to money and nothing else matters, right? How about the fact that my kids were cooped up in the house for weeks and unable to play with their friends. -- Surely no sacrifice. How about the inability to visit with parents/grandparents? -- Who gives a crap, right? How about the people working without PPE in your local Amazon warehouse, exposing themselves to the virus so you don't have to? -- I am sure they "fucking loved it". How about the parents who had to stay home, potentially giving up work, to take care of their kids because schools were closed? -- I bet they were singing God's praises.

Two months of behaving responsibly (for the most part) was just a nice, long vacation. Sure. What distorted reality are you living in?

Again that whole article is garbage!!!, he always speaks the protocols, and tells what people should be doing... So now smart guy.....

Clearly you did not read and/or understand the article, so there really is no point in continuing this conversation. And believe me, sitting in your comfy chair 1,600 miles away is a much different experience than living with the results of that dumbass's decisions on a daily basis.

There is no way to stop the spread, and hope peoples immunity finally just wears out the virus.. The same with H1N1....

Yes. You tell that to the good people of New Zealand.

Fun fact: Sweden did just what you are proposing. Three months later, their death rate is multiples of their Scandinavian neighbors and the percentage of the population that shows antibodies is barely 5-7%. Mission accomplished?

I think we are on the same page here buddy, just how you get to the finish line may be different.....

No, not really.

Edit:....

Here is a question for a smart guy like you Cabby...

Why is it that the numbers of the Wohan China Virus positives are going up yet they don't mention or no one talks about the death rate is way the fuck down??? Well i shouldn't say all the media or news stations don't mention this important stat

Do you have an explanation for that??

Because that statistic is meaningless. If you don't do meaningful testing than your basis for the percentage is small and the rate is higher. Now that they do somewhat more testing, they have a greater denominator and of course the percentage is smaller. So what? If you have 120,000 deaths, who gives a shit if that is a death rate of 1% or 10%? It's still 120,000 people that are dead.

But let's talk about numbers. The US has, what, 320 million people and 120,000 deaths? Germany has 80 million people, so you'd expect them to have 30,000 dead, right? You might want to look up how many people actually died (hint: barely a third of that). Hooray for socialized medicine and a decent public health care system! Oh, and the US has right around 4% of the world population but accounts for over 20% of new infections? You don't see a problem there? How about you ask your "Fox and Friends" to explain that little nugget?

To paraphrase #43: "You're doing a heck of a job, Donnie..."