I'm All For The War. I Think Its Right

[Zardoz]

Originally posted by sAdam@19 February 2003 - 11:10
i got news for u guys. out of about half a million troops deployed in the gulf war there were 148 combat deaths and about 30% of those were from friendly fire. assuming the military has become more effective since '91, bein a part of kickin iraq's ass is gonna be about as dangerous to the average soldier as going to that kwickie mart in the bad part of town (u know which one im talkin about).

And are you going to be one of the dead
Are you going?

It's people like you sat in their IVORY towers who think 148 allied lives are irrelevant and what about the Iraqi lives
They obviously have no meaning
I bet MY LIFE that you hold your own far more important than any others especially the soldiers you so readily send to death
You disgust me, you cowardly small-minded fool
This time Sadam knows it's for keeps so there's nothing to stop him using chemical or bio weapons this time
If you think that there are only going to be 130 allied death then you really are more stupid than my wildest speculations

think my post wasn't ironic enough zardoz, cause i'm totally agains war

Sorry Jetje, I got in a bit of a rage and the true meaning of your post escaped me.
now I have read it calmly the Irony comes through

[Zardoz]

Originally posted by I_DONT_SHARE_PORN@19 February 2003 - 05:49
I THINK THE WAR IS RIGHT TOO, LET'S NAPALM THE WHOLE COUNTRY.

Maybe you should use PORN it'll stop you being so uptight

[mrcall1969]

Originally posted by sAdam@19 February 2003 - 03:54
as an aside, france and germany ought to be kicked out of nato for refusing to come to the aid of turkey, the only muslim country that is a member of the alliance and the only one with anything like a functioning democracy, france and germany should be kissing their asses not telling them to fuck off.

Turkey have already stated that they will NOT automatically support any war on Iraq, or indeed allow anyone to use their airbases for an attack on Iraq.

[Ynhockey]

I do support war in Iraq, although if it starts, I'm going to be one of the people in mortal danger (living in Israel). But so what ? Both Arafat and Hussein are political geniuses and time has proven that they can't be beaten with words, so a war is one of the few options left to defeat them (but this time the objective has to be to eliminate the Iraqi leadership, because if they don't, this is going to be just like the gulf war).

@ sAdam:
What do you know about a military ? Judging by your words, you know nothing. I am only going to serve in 2 years, but some of my friends are serving now and I can tell that it's really difficult (just the training). Imagine how hard an actual tactical operation is - unlike training, in one of these you can't fail 'cause then you die. Besides, I'm sure that the Iraqi army has improved just like the US army, and although all they have is ancient Soviet weapons, they are still a strong opponent and should not be underestimated. I get the impression that all you know about wars comes from games like Red Alert 2. So go play that.

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by sAdam@19 February 2003 - 11:10
i got news for u guys. out of about half a million troops deployed in the gulf war there were 148 combat deaths and about 30% of those were from friendly fire. assuming the military has become more effective since '91, bein a part of kickin iraq's ass is gonna be about as dangerous to the average soldier as going to that kwickie mart in the bad part of town (u know which one im talkin about).

So.....

the 250,000 Iraqi's killed dont count as human lives to you?

Sicko...

Unlike some of your compatriots that are willing to debate, although not agree, you seem to want a war for TV entertainment as much as anything else.

Hell, you've even upset other pro-war members, never mind the anti-war lobby, so I echo the sentements posted by one of them....


Go back and play your Red Alert2.

As to the Post regarding France/Germany....

Im sure I answered WHY Germany and France cant send troops to Turkey UNTIL Turkey is attacked elswhere.

Germany cannot deploy Troops outside of Germany unless called on by UN or is attacked (or NATO member is attacked)...Its ILLEGAL.....Im sure it was the USA that insisted on this after WWII, so why are you complaining?

France is in the unique position of not being a FULL member of NATO. It comes into NATO in times of war.

NEITHER country said they would not help Turkey if attacked. They will not, however send troops to the Iraqi border prior to them being attacked....as they do not wish to be associated with the US/UK attack on Iraq.

Quite frankly, neither do I......unfortunatly the UK Government is taking part...But NOT IN MY NAME.

[Ron]

Although I'm not AGAINST a war, I have to say that I do agree with most of what's been replied here.
The first few posts are sheer provocation. If you took the time to read the posts in the lounge, you would have realized that most people here are totally against this (possible) war.
I don't mind a difference of opinion ( aka "a fight" ) every now and then, but at least try to put your opinion a little bit more nuanced (sp.?) than
"Let's napalm the whole country".
Let's not fight, just for the sake of a fight.

[daveyjones]

i would fight in a war to liberate iraq ,personally i want to see saddam brought to justice to stand trial for his crimes against humanity , some of you went on about the iraq lives lost in the last war , well there is such a thing as surrender , if the enemy choses not to , then so be it . I think that anylives lost in a new war , on either side , would in the long run be worth it if the people of iraq get their freedom , for what good is living if your not free?

[hyypia_1571]

I think that Bush is a bit to "trigger happy" when it comes to him using his potential powers. He's a bit fo a control freak with no obligation as to who is going to stop him from attacking Iraq. I can understand France/Germany not wanting to go to war, its America's problem, they brought it up in the first place.

Its just Blair who is persistent upon humping Bush's leg and is not taking any notice of public appeal towards anti-war demonstrations.

(p.s. it couldn't help but notice a BBC advert which showed a tv show showing how Britain decides as to whether to go to war or not. Yet its not Britain who decides, its America.To much weakness showing in our government and its plain to see.)

[imported_computerfreak76]

well the war is going to happen whether we like it or not. i just hope saddam doesnt launch the nukes and bio weapons he has and if any of you have family over like i do lets hope they all come home in one piece safe and sound.

[SuperJude™]

The more I read these threads the more I see it is just all idle talk and opinions and nothing will ever get solved on a world level by what is stated at a message board.

I may just sign off on this subject forever more. Things I say get misinterpreted, war sucks cause dead people IRL is not like the t.v. or a video game or a movie, it is very real.

I only say again- I support the people they are going to send over there because they are my countrymen and a few (more than 10 here) of my friends are going overseas or are already there. If they must fight I wish them victory.

I still think most Iraqis would rather live like us than fight us.

-SJ™