P2p In The Cold War

[j2k4]

That certainly makes it more difficult, OMC, as you are (I think) premising this all on the continuation of policies which arose from the Reagan presidency.

I believe it is true that, with the threat of SDA and the defense build-up (which was not much more than a re-fit after Vietnam- and Carter-inspired dry-rot), we spent the Soviets into a hole they couldn't find their way out of, and this led to glasnost and perestroika.

These developments would not have occurred otherwise.

In the scenario you describe, I think things would have happened more-or-less as they have.

I don't know that I've shared any files with anyone in Russia, but who knows?

Do we have any Russians on-board?

[Wizard_Mon1]

Why would anyone want to share russian music any way.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1@15 March 2004 - 15:23
Why would anyone want to share russian music any way.

Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov does not suit you, Wiz?

[Wizard_Mon1]

Originally posted by j2k4+15 March 2004 - 18:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 &#064; 15 March 2004 - 18:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Wizard_Mon1@15 March 2004 - 15:23
Why would anyone want to share russian music any way.

Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov does not suit you, Wiz? [/b][/quote]
Do you have a cold?

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1+15 March 2004 - 16:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Wizard_Mon1 @ 15 March 2004 - 16:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by j2k4@15 March 2004 - 18:57
<!--QuoteBegin-Wizard_Mon1

@15 March 2004 - 15:23
Why would anyone want to share russian music any way.

Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov does not suit you, Wiz?

Do you have a cold? [/b][/quote]
Maybe.

Who wants to know?

[oldmancan]

Originally posted by Wizard_Mon1@15 March 2004 - 11:23
Why would anyone want to share russian music any way.

@ Wiz, uh because it&#39;s good? Perhaps you should listen to some. Suspecting you don&#39;t share j2k4&#39;s taste in music, how about the Red Elvises?

@ j2k4, your going to laugh but this is what I was thinking of, not Reagan&#39;s presidency.



I don&#39;t think the soviets would have supported the P2P for the purpose of enriching the live of the populace. But I really wonder if they would have tried to capitalize on the opportunity to wreak havoc with the pc empowered Western Economy.

[MagicNakor]

I&#39;ve got a lot of Russian music. Haven&#39;t heard of the Red Elvises, although I can imagine....

But as glasnost and perestroika were something of the end of the regime, it would be highly unlikely that the Republic would&#39;ve lasted.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@15 March 2004 - 22:57
I&#39;ve got a lot of Russian music.&nbsp; Haven&#39;t heard of the Red Elvises, although I can imagine....

But as glasnost and perestroika were something of the end of the regime, it would be highly unlikely that the Republic would&#39;ve lasted.

MN-

I agree completely.

OMC-

That is why, as MN has also stated, it is a difficult speculation; it would almost seem unfair to the old Soviet regime to imagine them at anything but their evil best/worst.

Any other scenario would seem anti-climactic.

[mrcall1969]

Originally posted by j2k4+15 March 2004 - 07:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 15 March 2004 - 07:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-oldmancan@14 March 2004 - 23:41
If the Soviet Union, U.S.S.R., had not collapsed and the Cold War had continued up to the present, would P2P programs and networks be much different?

Would the government of USSR have helped or hindered development of P2P?

Would they have cared at all? If everything is owned by the state, do artists still copyright their work? Is communism related to sharing?

Anyone care to discuss?

omc

Do you theorize continued Soviet expansion, OMC, or do we continue to help keep them in check?

I suppose the Cold War would have continued, and the Soviets would have done what they could to use the web for their nefarious purposes; I don&#39;t know that they would have allowed PCs to proliferate, and such as there were would not have been linked to the &#39;net.

Thus p2p in the USSR would have been a non-starter, I think.

Truly an interesting question, and one not often entertained, as to do so requires one to re-consider Ronald Reagan, which many are loathe to do, as he played such a large part in the demise of the USSR. [/b][/quote]
Why is it that j2k4 (or whatver) seems to always post in a thread that he/she can seem to exalt "Americas" virtues ??

I&#39;m not against this, I&#39;m a Scottish Nationalist, but I dont throw it down everyone&#39;s throat&#33;

[j2k4]

Originally posted by mrcall1969@16 March 2004 - 02:31
Why is it that j2k4 (or whatver) seems to always post in a thread that he/she can seem to exalt "Americas" virtues ??

I&#39;m not against this, I&#39;m a Scottish Nationalist, but I dont throw it down everyone&#39;s throat&#33;

The noting of historical fact (Reagan&#39;s part in the downfall of the USSR) shouldn&#39;t offend you.

How does it follow that I am "exalting America&#39;s virtues"?

If you have a different theory as to why the USSR no longer exists, I&#39;d like to hear it.

Why the vitriol?