Equality run amok!

[vidcc]

well said manker. I've been slow on this one because we've mostly covered it all before time and again and i've come down to the simple point of equality is a right not an exclusive club for some.... especially in a country that spouts freedom and liberty.









now before i get another carebear tag....crawl back to the lounge you came from

[Busyman]

Homosexuality is not hard-wired and it has not been proven to be.
I like the contrast of black. I don't know why. I just do.
It's my preference.
Something in my lifetime led that to be so. It could be that I liked the black car outside or liked nighttime. Who the hell knows?

Do I think I could turn gay?
Hell no.

Are there others that thought the same way and had same-sex sex?
Absofuckinglutely.

There are to many varations of the sexual scale for any of you to generalize gay and straight. You don't have a fucking clue.

A person that has one gay sex encounter in their lifetime..are they gay or straight?

wanker the primary function of sex is procreation but admittedly that's my logical reasoning.....

What happens during sex...you come. Now whether you meant for it to be on someone's face or in your hand, that's not the function of semen.

[manker]

Well that's the thing, I'm not generalising, I specifically included bi-sexual to intimate that. Of course sexuality is too complex to catagorise but for the purpose of clarity it is sometimes necessary to make a lucid point. If you're suggesting, which I think you are, that people somehow decide to become homosexual then again I call bullshit. Kids are born with a predisposition or a leaning to feel sexual attraction toward males or females or some combination of both, this will later manifest itself. They can deny this and conform with society but this is not natural, it is denying their true desires.

You speak of proof to the contrary, so demonstrate it.

With regard to the primary function of sex logically being to procreate, I'm going to humour you and follow the logical theme; having sex if your primary wont is to procreate, that's logical ergo to have sex without procreation being the uppermost reason in your mind, that's illogical.

That looks ridiculous now, doesn't it.

Besides, my whole reason for posting initially - which fell by the wayside - is that marriage is fine should some person decide to commit themselves in that way to some other person. I don't feel the need to do so but if others want to it's fine by me. Just because some person has a predisposition to feel a need to commit themselves to a person of the same gender, the law should not preclude them from doing so.

It's only fair.



@ vidcc -- Ok, I'm crawling back there now

[vidcc]

New Rule: Politics is about compromises. Really stupid compromises.

That's how we got such laws as... Blacks are 3/5 of a person. Slaves are property, unless they make it to Ohio. Interning the Japanese, but not the Germans. Slaughtering the Indians, but letting the ones who survive run the Keno parlors. Porn, but not hardcore porn. Booze, and then no booze, and then booze again. But no pot. Except medical marijuana. Which is legal to possess, but illegal to obtain. And my favorite; you can't have stem cells, except the ones we already have.

Now in this spirit, I would like to offer a few compromise suggestions for the knotty issue we face today: same sex marriage.

Why not this? It's okay to be gay, if you're already gay, but no new gays. We'll grandfather you in if you're already an organ grinder, but that's it. Or, how about, let gays marry, but come out against gay mortgages?

Or, maybe the answer to this is as plain as the nose in my lap. With both sides so set, one being all for gay marriage, and the other completely against it, how about we just let the lesbians marry?

I mean, come on, marriage is a chick thing, anyway. It is. Monogamy and marriage were invented by women and the church as a way to address female insecurity, and to stamp out oral sex as we know it. And don't give me some line about how two women can't reproduce. As long as David Crosby is alive and can swallow a Viagra, that's not a problem.

Plus, let's face it. When people talk about homosexuality being unnatural, and abomination, they're not talking about the women.

No, no, they're talking about the men. Nobody seems to find anything so abominable about Britney Spears tonguing Madonna. Or Gina Gershon in bed with Jennifer Tilly. Or anything else on the third shelf of my "library."

No, in America, when a man puts something in another man, it had better be a bullet.

So isn't it time both sides compromised a little on this issue? The statistics tell us that anywhere from 2-10% of people in America are gay. Although it seems higher at my bath house.

So look, conservatives, I know you're sincere. I know you think you're doing God's work. But in a hundred years, people traveling by jet pack to Mars are not going to be tripping on gay marriage. The whole issue is just going to be a joke. On you.

So my advice is simple: They're here, they're queer, get bored with it.

Bill Maher

[Busyman]

@ manker- Can you decide that your favorite color is blue?

I never said one would just up and decide to be homosexual.

When I was younger my favorite color was blue (it really was) now it's black.

I like wearing it, it's the color of my car, etc.

The reason I said some of haven't a clue is because there are folks that "change up" everyday but you have your heads stuck so far up news media that logic is out the window.

What about the woman who all her life was attracted to men, had a sexual encounter at 35 years old and switched to women?

Is she bisexual or homosexual?

If you wanker had sex with a guy one time are you gay?

In both of these cases is there the presence of the infamous "gay gene" or is it the bisexual gene?

If a man convinces their girlfriend to have a threesome with another woman she just might like it and won't mind being with a woman again. She might choose to dabble every once in awhile with women or switch completely.

It's her choice.

I don't want the choice to be an easier choice for children.

Also wanker I never said primary want regarding sex. I said primary function.
You can think the primary function of sex is to open assholes up wider but it doesn't change what is wanker.
Just like the primary function of the rectum is to store shit.

I did say this before but if gays are to marry then:

Prostitution should be legal
Polygamy should be legal as well and one should be able to have multiple man/woman combinations.

"Hey this is Jack who is married to John, Jill, Jason, Kim, Mary, Ste........"

Hell, we could have universal healthcare if everyone would join in the fun.

[Rat Faced]

As long as no ones getting hurt, i cant see why people shouldnt be allowed to do what the hell they want, without discrimination of any type

[Biggles]

Prostitution is legal in many countries

Given the ease of divorce, don't we have serial polygamy?

In a number of cultures multiple relationships (both male and female) do occur.

None of these things are absolutes.

We may, as a culture, choose not to do these things, but there no external objective moral reason for doing so. It is simply a choice and one that might change over the years.

[Busyman]

As long as no ones getting hurt, i cant see why people shouldnt be allowed to do what the hell they want, without discrimination of any type

Okay I'll bite.

That sounds reeeeaally reeeaally good...on paper.

But since you said it:

Come to FreeWorld!!!!! where we have legalized all forms of.....


Prostitution
Gambling
Euthanasia
Polygamy
Drug use
Beastiality
Predatory Loans
Abortions
Cloning
and more!!!!!!!

[vidcc]

I always enjoy the posts that say....well if we let this happen we might as well go the whole hog..... i have to admit usually with gay unions it goes along the lines of...well if we let homosexuals marry what's next...legalise peadophiles?.
A very often used tactic...put something bad in the same sentence so that even though the orator isn't calling homosexuals child molesters the connection is somehow made.

[Busyman]

I always enjoy the posts that say....well if we let this happen we might as well go the whole hog..... i have to admit usually with gay unions it goes along the lines of...well if we let homosexuals marry what's next...legalise peadophiles?.
A very often used tactic...put something bad in the same sentence so that even though the orator isn't calling homosexuals child molesters the connection is somehow made.

Hmph...neither was I.
You went off the spectrum with that one.