I can remember plenty of threads before the big delete 2 where you’ve shown your political stripe. I would love to point some of them out to you but for reasons beyond my control I can’t
Move It On Over
I can remember plenty of threads before the big delete 2 where you’ve shown your political stripe. I would love to point some of them out to you but for reasons beyond my control I can’t
there is no god
he gave outlines of his plans...by details he said what those plans were....what time would he have to give the complete thing? if you want to find out do as he suggested...go to his site and read..Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
Did you have your hands over your ears again shouting "I'M NOT LISTENING, I'M NOT LISTENING LA LA LA LA!!!!!!"All of his answers are I have a plan or go to John Kerry.com to see my plan.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
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The weird thing with these debates is that they both contradict each other and in the end your not quit sure who is correct.
One weird thing i noticed - i wonder if it was a coincidence, or im way off
In the Public almost 2 seats behind Kerry there was a Really "big" woman sitting there - wearing really White bright clothes - she stuck out of the crowd like a neon light. Whenever the camera focused on Kerry from the most obvious focus direction she was there. Now i dont know what the unconciouns effect of seeing a thin kerry with big chic in background - on Bushes side it was Generally standard type of humans......
Just a thought
Poster
Last night's debate was quite a spectacle..at least Bush was. He showed a total lack of self-discilpine and self-control. He interrupted Kerry quite often, and started yelling over moderator Charles Gibson.
This does not show a strong and capable leader, but rather a level of immaturity and a distinct lack of tolerance for rules and laws that might otherwise impede his personal desires.
Bush seemed to draw conclusions that were diametrically opposed to what is actually happening...not only in Iraq, but on the domestic front as well.
This is not a "leader". This is Bush Gone Wild...much like the leader of the hunters on "Lord of the Flies. -ruthie
The Scary Little Man
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Friday 08 October 2004
"He had a feeling that the answer was quite different and that he ought to know it, but he could not think of it. He began to get frightened, and that is bad for thinking."
- J.R.R. Tolkien
George W. Bush, still smarting from his embarrassing performance in the Florida debate, decided on Friday night in St. Louis that volume was a good substitute for strength, that yelling would be mistaken for gravitas. The result was an ugly, disturbing, genuinely frightening show. In my report on the first debate, I described Bush as, "Shrill. Defensive. Muddled. Angry, very angry. Repetitive. Uninformed. Outmatched. Unprepared. Hesitant." As bad as that display was, it honestly paled in comparison to the frenzied hectoring Bush sprayed at 140 Missouri citizens who had the ill fortune of watching the man come unglued before their eyes.
John Kerry, by comparison, was every inch the controlled prosecutor pressing his case to the jury. It was, perhaps, that calm delineation of Bush's myriad errors which caused the Republican candidate to blow his stack. Exactly 30 minutes into the debate, Bush became so agitated by Kerry's description of the "back-door draft," which is literally bleeding the life out of our National Guard and Reserve forces, that he lunged out of his chair and shrieked over moderator Charles Gibson, who was trying to maintain some semblance of decorum.
"You tell Tony Blair we're going alone," Bush roared. "Tell Tony Blair we're going alone!" The disturbed murmur from the crowd was audible. Bush, simply, frightened them.
More unsettling than Bush's demonstrable agitation was his almost uncanny disconnect from reality. The voluminous report released by Charles Duelfer and the Iraq Survey Group, compiled by 1,625 U.N. and U.S. weapons inspectors after two years of searching some 1,700 sites in Iraq at a cost of more than $1 billion, stated flatly that no weapons of mass destruction exist in that nation, that no weapons of mass destruction have existed in that nation for years, and that any capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction within that nation has been crumbling for the same amount of years.
"My opponent said that America must pass a global test before we used force to protect ourselves," said Bush during the Iraq phase of the debate. "That's the kind of mindset that says sanctions were working. That's the kind of mindset that said, 'Let's keep it at the United Nations and hope things go well.' Saddam Hussein was a threat because he could have given weapons of mass destruction to terrorist enemies. Sanctions were not working."
What? First of all, the Duelfer Report proves beyond any question that sanctions had worked incredibly well. The stuff wasn't there, because Scott Ritter and the UNSCOM inspectors destroyed it all during the 1990s, along with any and all equipment and facilities to make it. The stuff wasn't there because the sanctions put into place against Hussein prevented him from getting any material to develop weapons. The stuff wasn't there because Hussein stopped making it years ago, because the sanctions were breaking his back. The sanctions worked.
When Bush made the statement about Hussein giving weapons of mass destruction to "terrorist enemies," the needle edged over from 'Dumb' to 'Deranged.' How many different ways must one say "The stuff wasn't there" before George picks up the clue phone? How does someone give away something he doesn't have?
Bush continued in this appalling vein when he said, "He keeps talking about, 'Let the inspectors do their job.' It's naive and dangerous to say that. That's what the Duelfer report showed." Welcome to Bush World, where everything is upside down and two plus two equals a bag of hammers. It is naive and dangerous to point out that the inspectors got the job done in the 1990s, that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction whatsoever? No, George. It is simply the truth. The mental disconnect reared its shouting head repeatedly throughout the evening. Bush somehow lost track of where he was at one point and called his opponent, "Senator Kennedy." He told one questioner that he would control the deficit by stopping Congress from spending, only a few minutes after defending the fact that he had never, not once, vetoed a spending bill from Congress.
He made an accountant crack about "Battling green eyeshades," a statement that immediately became a first-ballot nominee for the Gibberish Hall of Fame. When asked what kind of Supreme Court Justice he would nominate if given an opportunity, he wandered off along a free-association rant about Dred Scott. Clearly, this President will make sure to nominate people to the bench who are opposed to chattel slavery.
Perhaps the most telling moment came when questioner Linda Grabel asked Bush, "Please give three instances in which you came to realize you had made a wrong decision, and what you did to correct it."
As with his April prime time press conference, in which he was asked a very similar question, Bush absolutely refused to admit to any errors in judgment, beyond a cryptic quip about mistakes in personnel appointments which he would not elaborate upon. He opened himself up to the judgment of history, a sad straddle given the simple fact that no President can avoid such a judgment. That was all he was willing to offer. Ms. Grabel did not hear about three mistakes. She did not even hear about one.
Bush was every inch the angry man on Friday night, which is dangerous enough. But to witness anger combined with belligerent ignorance, with a willful denial of basic facts, to witness a man utterly incapable of admitting to any mistakes while his clear errors in judgment are costing his country in blood, to see that combination roiling within the man who is in charge of the most awesome military arsenal in the history of the planet, is more than dangerous.
It is flatly terrifying.
from truthout via AWW
Last edited by ruthie; 10-09-2004 at 08:18 PM.
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I nearly posted that an hour ago ruthie... from your site
However, I contained myself incase you or Scroff came in
An It Harm None, Do What You Will
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awww. you are welcome to post anything from our site you wuld like. Speaking of which, what happened to the thingy from the old board where you could put your site address?
Did you get to see any of the debates? It was real trip watching Bush jumping up and down like a yo-yo.
Looking for loopholes
Read it and thought Hmmm..a post that is about to launch Post Armageddon from Hank and Manny.I nearly posted that an hour ago ruthie... from your site
However, I contained myself incase you or Scroff came in
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum
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I added your site to your sig ruthie
An It Harm None, Do What You Will
Poster
Why, thank you, RF. Now, let the real debate begin. This oughta be good.
Super Undulator
So you say my political stripe is bias????I can remember plenty of threads before the big delete 2 where you’ve shown your political stripe. I would love to point some of them out to you but for reasons beyond my control I can’t
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