Your Opinions Please

[Busyman]

If one must use labels ....

I don't believe in God but i would never tell someone that does believe that they are wrong..... one of us has to be wrong and i am not so arrogant as to think it's not me.....Although i doubt it

Curious...who or what do you think made you?

Why do plants breath in CO2 and out oxygen?

Why do we do the converse?

Hmm I would have either figured you as an agnostic or simply not professing a particular religion. Very interesting albeit illogical.

[Everose]

Only those with convictions can be tolerant.

I liked that. Thanks, JP. Those are the exact words I was searching for.

[Busyman]

Only those with convictions can be tolerant.

It sounds good.

What does it mean though?

[manker]

I thought I'd heard that quote before, it must have been on a film or something but it appears that it is also used as a mantra for extreme right wing groups to justify their beliefs and to belittle more liberal folk.

I believe it is likening tolerance to apathy. As already posted this is clearly not the case, I too believe that to be tolerant often requires a great deal of conviction. Particularly if what you are tolerant of goes against the grain.

@ Busyman - plants produce oxygen when they photosynthesize, when it is dark they respire just as we do. There are other, natural, chemical reactions that also contribute to the CO2/oxygen equilibrium. I think science can provide logical answers to the questions you pose.

[vidcc]

@busy

I believe in the big bang theory as a possibility and evolution...nature finds a way. Just as insects build immunity to pesticides so did life find a way to exist with what was available.
As to the plant/animal gas question, that's the way with nature...it evolves into balance. This is easy to observe with the effects of mans exploitation
There are animals at the bottom of the ocean that don't breathe oxygen.

If you are asking what came "before" i don't have the answer, but by the arguement that a "creator" made it.....i have to ask what made the "creator"?

I'm not looking for explainations or debate. There are reasons why i came to my conclusion that are personal to me.

[Everose]

It sounds good.

What does it mean though?

What it means to me is that the test of 'true' tolerance is having strong convictions, but being tolerant of others.........even though you feel strongly about an issue yourself.

I think it is going to be important in uniting the citizens of the United States after the election that the new President have this 'true' tolerance.

[Biggles]

The strong can afford to be kind. It is the weak that fear others. Fear leads to irrational and cruel behaviour. imho



On a slightly more complex level, this is a classic example of a meaningless soundbite. On face value it appears to make sense, but in truth it bears no scrutiny. It confuses tolerance with both weakness and doubt. It is perfectly possible to believe one is correct without compromise of that belief and yet still be prepared to tolerate others. Inability to tolerate others is in fact a weakness not a strength. It says more about that individual's lack of confidence to put his views to the touch than it does about the wrongness of other viewpoints.


Again, imho

[Biggles]

Do you think so? I fancied it was rather trite.

[Busyman]

@ Busyman - plants produce oxygen when they photosynthesize, when it is dark they respire just as we do. There are other, natural, chemical reactions that also contribute to the CO2/oxygen equilibrium. I think science can provide logical answers to the questions you pose.

No shit.

It's mighty convenient though, ain't it.

[Busyman]

@busy

I believe in the big bang theory as a possibility and evolution...nature finds a way. Just as insects build immunity to pesticides so did life find a way to exist with what was available.
As to the plant/animal gas question, that's the way with nature...it evolves into balance. This is easy to observe with the effects of mans exploitation
There are animals at the bottom of the ocean that don't breathe oxygen.

If you are asking what came "before" i don't have the answer, but by the arguement that a "creator" made it.....i have to ask what made the "creator"?

I'm not looking for explainations or debate. There are reasons why i came to my conclusion that are personal to me.

It's cool.

Something set it all in motion....the bang and all.