parts do they work? I'm going to add on more, what do u recommend?

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so ide can still work? What are the cables it comes with, havent built a computer in 2-3 years, I'm building this for a friend

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how about the hard drive would a ide one be better? I'm use to setting up ide so it'd be better, i think my friends looking for a 160gbs western or segate

[clocker]

how about the hard drive would a ide one be better?

No, it would not.
The SATA Plextor is nice cause you can eliminate the bulk of the IDE cable, but it's performance is really not all that spectacular.

But you DO want a SATA HDD...my preference is for Seagates.

VB handcarves his drives from whalebone during the brutal Canadian winters (i.e. 11.5 months of the year).

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how do u set up an sata, i have no clue how to set one up, is it the same as the ide?

hows this?
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3160827AS 160GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3160827AS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148034

[lynx]

That drive is fine.

For sata installation you simply put in the supplied floppy disk at install time if necessary (press F6 I think).

The ATI graphics card is never going to be SLI capable, so you are just wasting money getting an SLI motherboard. Look for the equivalent without SLI and save some money.

On the other hand, the PSU in that case probably only has a 20 pin mobo connector, you need a 24 pin connector for that mobo, so spend the money you just saved on the SLI to get a much better PSU. You may have difficulty finding one integrated into the case so you probably need to look for separate units.

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so wait I can keep the ati graphics card look for another mobo? and then get a better (edit) oo power supply unit? Can you give stuff you recommend, I havent picked parts in so long. I prefer to work w/ ides instead cause i have no clue how to set up an ata, like the cable connections, this mobo seems so complicated, im reading the manual to try figuring stuff out

will ide fade out in the future like is ata suppose to replace it or something? Whats the whole deal w/ the ide and ata?

hows this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813123236
for motherboard as a switch

[lynx]

IDE = P(arallel)ATA.
New = S(erial)ATA.

Not much difference except that the cabling is easier and thinner. IDE will be around for a while, but there's no real problem with SATA.

The only problem with SATA is that it is too new for the drivers to be included with XP, so you need to use the driver diskette (provided with the mobo) when installing XP. Not a problem, just press F6 when the prompt comes up, then insert the diskette and off it goes. Always assuming you've included a floppy drive.

But stick with the NEC DVD burner, the Plextor SATA drive is expensive for no apparent benefit.

As for mobo, the simple answer is to go for the A8N rather than the A8N-SLI.
Better still, look at this thread posted by imasoldier. It has some recommendations for both mobo and psu.
https://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/t99713.html

Anyway, well past time for bed, I'll have another look tomorrow.

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So update on my friends comp, wow parts have really changed since i last made a computer, mostly its all ATA, I'd like to try it out but I'm just afraid I won't be able to set it up, plus he doesn't want to get a floppy drive. I might want to try out an SATA but if its the hard drive it will boot without a hard drive first and then you have to install the driver for it in bios or just press F6 in the boot screen? About the cables, i can't find any pictures on an SATA hard drive like the connectors, does it only have one cable connector? Do I have to config jumpers and where do I plug in the power supply.

CHANGES
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MOBO
CASE
PSU

hows the video card is it good?

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CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM
Model #: ND-3540A Black
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $9.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $45.99 $45.99

ATX Computer Cases
Thermaltake Xaser V Damier V5000D Blue Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: V5000D
Remove Save Move To Wish List $110.00 $110.00

Internal Hard Drives

Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3160827AS 160GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3160827AS

AMD-compatible Motherboards
EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: EP-9NPA+Ultra
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $108.00 $108.00

Video Cards & Related Devices
ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 100-714131 All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: 100-714131
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 1 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Onsite Plan -- $39.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 2 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Onsite Plan -- $49.99 3 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Onsite Plan -- $59.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $176.00 $176.00

Power Supplies
Rosewill RP500 ATX 500W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: RP500
**This item may only be returned for a replacement of the same make/model.
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $55.99 $55.99

Memory - System
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail
Model #: VS1GBKIT400
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $86.99 $86.99

Processors
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3500BPBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA3500BPBOX
**This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only.
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $59.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $226.99 $226.99

Combo
Logitech Cordless Desktop Optical 967320-0403 Black PS/2 RF Wireless Standard Keyboard Mouse Included - OEM
Model #: 967320-0403
Remove $43.95 -$12.00 Combo
-$12.00 Instant $19.95
Logitech S-100 BLK 5 Watts RMS 2.0 Speaker - OEM
Model #: 970144-0403
Subtotal: $904.91

will these parts do good for other mobos?
MSI K8N Neo4/SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: K8N Neo4/SLI
Item #: N82E16813130492
Regular Price: $123.00
Combo Price: $103.00

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: A8N-SLI Deluxe
Item #: N82E16813131517
Regular Price: $164.00
Combo Price: $144.00

BIOSTAR N4SLI-A9 Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: N4SLI-A9
Item #: N82E16813138253
Regular Price: $109.99
Combo Price: $79.99

[clocker]

The only problem with SATA is that it is too new for the drivers to be included with XP, so you need to use the driver diskette (provided with the mobo) when installing XP. Not a problem, just press F6 when the prompt comes up, then insert the diskette and off it goes. Always assuming you've included a floppy drive.

AHA! Gotcha.

This is not true anymore.
Nforce4 boards present the SATA drives to Windows as an IDE drive...no driver/ floppy/F6 is required.

You only need to F6 a driver in if you are RAIDing.

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Thats cool so I'll just get the SATA hd instead of the ide

Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3160827AS 160GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3160827AS

instead n no floppies necessary right?