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    Quote Originally Posted by maebach
    good point. if bush agrees to the truce, americans will never forgive him.
    Not quite my point.

    Truces have terms.

    What would they be?

    UBL says, "Remove coalition forces from the mideast and I will not attack America or it's allies?"

    What else would he have to offer?

    What if Bush offered a truce to Bin Laden?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Just how do you suppose a "negotiation" with UBL would take place?

    Should he be invited to the U.N.?

    How would one go about stipulating concessions by Al Qaeda?

    Let's say UBL wants us to clear out of the mideast so he can have a free hand to establish Islamic theocracies throughout the region?

    What promises could/would he make to guarantee any concessions he himself might make?

    We clear out, he moves in...what then?

    Does he heel to the U.N.?

    How would this work?

    Say what you like about Bush; do you find UBL honorable/trustworthy enough to negotiate with?

    Or do you enter into negotiations strictly on the chance he might be?

    Huh?

    Huh?

    Good to see you haven't pre-judged, but have chosen to actually discuss things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by maebach
    good point. if bush agrees to the truce, americans will never forgive him.
    Not quite my point.

    Truces have terms.

    What would they be?

    UBL says, "Remove coalition forces from the mideast and I will not attack America or it's allies?"

    What else would he have to offer?

    What if Bush offered a truce to Bin Laden?
    the last statement was my point, I should edit that.

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    What he offers is clearly untouchable for the US Gov. thus justifying future acts of terrorism for him and his followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
    What he offers is clearly untouchable for the US Gov.
    How does one know, until one has listened to the proposal.

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    To me, the proposal is just words on a piece of paper.

    We don't trust him, he doesn't trust us and there is absolutely no empowered group to enforce any transgressions of said treaty.

    Just paper and ink, nothing more.
    Last edited by hobbes; 01-21-2006 at 02:37 AM.
    Aren't we in the trust tree, thingey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Just how do you suppose a "negotiation" with UBL would take place?

    Should he be invited to the U.N.?

    How would one go about stipulating concessions by Al Qaeda?

    Let's say UBL wants us to clear out of the mideast so he can have a free hand to establish Islamic theocracies throughout the region?

    What promises could/would he make to guarantee any concessions he himself might make?

    We clear out, he moves in...what then?

    Does he heel to the U.N.?

    How would this work?

    Say what you like about Bush; do you find UBL honorable/trustworthy enough to negotiate with?

    Or do you enter into negotiations strictly on the chance he might be?

    Huh?

    Huh?

    Good to see you haven't pre-judged, but have chosen to actually discuss things.
    Ummm...pre-judged...riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

    Has someone commandeered your account?
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    He's gotta be blowin' smoke.

    Wtf are the terms?

    Sounds like bullshit to say he was reaching out and was snubbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul

    Good to see you haven't pre-judged, but have chosen to actually discuss things.
    Ummm...pre-judged...riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

    Has someone commandeered your account?
    Do you think, for a second that OBL is more of a terrorist, or more determined than the IRA, UDA etc. Their campaigns ran for 40 years, killing and maiming countless housands. In Ireland, the Uk mainland and elsewhere in the world. There was no military or law enforcement solution which could have stopped that.

    So the parties sat down and talked, you sent some really good chaps to assist in that process. It went on for months and still goes on .... but, how many lives has it saved. The re-generation and economic growth in Belfast is tremendous and children are being born and growing up to be taught that terrorism is a sad part of their history, not a way of life.

    We've already obliterated a couple of countries, overthrown a regime, put our own form of government in place and secured the mineral assets we need from one of their major sources. Enough already, lets try talking about it.

    I however you need more revenge, or you don't actually want to stop (for some other reason) then carry on bombing innocents to get to your targets.

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