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  1. #51
    Sct is the best i suppose
    because Sct carries more category

  2. BitTorrent   -   #52
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    SCC since they have the 0day/mp3 and archive section that are freebies and requests are allowed.
    SCT for the tremendous site speed
    So either or..Its a toss up
    Last edited by t3rr1ble; 09-06-2009 at 08:04 PM.

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    TL is the best to me

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    ptm is good....

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    Update / Bump, again, sites marked as XXX are sites that do not wished to be mentioned.

    XviD Films (worth racing) from the last week:

    Transformers.Revenge.of.the.Fallen.DVDRip.XviD-iMBT: ->
    #1 ScT (1m 5s ap) - #2 GFT (1m 34s ap) - #3 SCC (1m 44s ap) - #4 PT (2m 19s ap) - #5 STN (2m 37s ap) - #6 UK-T (2m 42s ap) - #7 TiT (2m 57s ap)



    The.Proposal.DVDRip.XviD-JUMANJi: ->
    #1 ScT (1m 7s ap) - #2 GFT (1m 37s ap) - #3 TiT (1m 41s ap) - #4 DH (1m 41s ap) - #5 STN (2m 13s ap) - #6 PT (2m 16s ap) - #7 SCC (2m 26s ap)



    Drag.Me.To.Hell.DVDRip.XviD-iMBT: ->
    #1 ScT (1m 5s ap) - #2 TiT (1m 24s ap) - #3 DH (1m 24s ap) - #4 XXX (1m 33s ap) - #5 PT (2m ap) - #6 STN (2m 14s ap) - #7 TV (2m 14s ap)



    Star.Trek.DVDRip.XviD-iMBT: ->
    #1 ScT (1m 39s ap) - #2 TiT (2m 4s ap) - #3 DH (2m 4s ap) - #4 BSk (2m 46s ap) - #5 IPT (3m 31s ap) - #6 TL (3m 31s ap) - #7 UK-T (3m 33s ap)



    My.Life.in.Ruins.DVDRip.XviD-DiAMOND: ->
    #1 TV (57s ap) - #2 XXX (1m 4s ap) - #3 SCC (1m 9s ap) - #4 TL (1m 49s ap) - #5 BSk (2m 4s ap) - #6 PTM (2m 18s ap) - #7 ViZZ (2m 29s ap)




    X264 Films (worth racing) from the last week:

    Ice.Age.Dawn.Of.The.Dinosaurs.720p.BluRay.x264-METiS: ->
    #1 ScT (2m 32s ap) - #2 GFT (2m 59s ap) - #3 TiT (3m 6s ap) - #4 DH (3m 8s ap) - #5 TV (3m 17s ap) - #6 SCC (4m 4s ap) - #7 sX (4m 13s ap)



    Transformers.Revenge.of.the.Fallen.720p.BluRay.x264-HUBRiS: ->
    #1 ScT (3m 20s ap) - #2 SCC (4m 7s ap) - #3 sX (5m 14s ap) - #4 ScR (7m 18s ap) - #5 GFT (7m 31s ap) - #6 TV (7m 50s ap) - #7 PTM (10m 46s ap)



    Drag.Me.to.Hell.720p.BluRay.x264-METiS: ->
    #1 GFT (4m 1s ap) - #2 ScT (4m 15s ap) - #3 TV (5m 18s ap) - #4 sX (6m 12s ap) - #5 PTM (6m 24s ap) - #6 TBy (7m 51s ap) - #7 UK-T (10m 24s ap)



    The.GirlFriend.Experience.2009.720p.BluRay.x264-AVCHD: ->
    #1 ScT (4m 52s ap) - #2 TiT (5m 55s ap) - #3 DH (5m 57s ap) - #4 TV (6m 10s ap) - #5 SCC (6m 30s ap) - #6 STN (6m 59s ap) - #7 FF (18m 37s ap)



    The.Proposal.720p.BluRay.x264-iNFAMOUS: ->
    #1 ScT (3m 48s ap) - #2 GFT (4m 58s ap) - #3 SCC (5m 7s ap) - #4 TV (5m 7s ap) - #5 TL (6m 11s ap) - #6 STN (6m 35s ap) - #7 PTM (8m 43s ap)



    My.Life.in.Ruins.720p.BluRay.x264-HUBRIS: ->
    #1 ScT (2m 36s ap) - #2 SCC (3m 9s ap) - #3 TL (5m 38s ap) - #4 GFT (6m 14s ap) - #5 STN (7m 20s ap) - #6 XXX (7m 58s ap) - #7 XXX (8m 14s ap)



    Year.One.720p.BluRay.x264-iNFAMOUS: ->
    #1 SCC (3m 41s ap) - #2 ScT (3m 51s ap) - #3 GFT (4m 45s ap) - #4 PTM (6m 32s ap) - #5 STN (6m 55s ap) - #6 TBy (7m 39s ap) - #7 FF (8m 27s ap)



    Imagine.That.720p.BluRay.x264-iNFAMOUS: ->
    #1 ScT (3m 29s ap) - #2 TV (5m 51s ap) - #3 STN (6m 21s ap) - #4 SCC (6m 41s ap) - #5 TL (9m 50s ap) - #6 TBy (17m 44s ap) - #7 PTM (18m 38s ap)




    DVDR Films (worth racing) from the last week:

    Night.At.The.Museum.Battle.Of.The.Smithsonain.PROPER.NTSC.DVDR-BULLDOZER: ->
    #1 ScT (2m 57s ap) - #2 XXX (5m 28s ap) - #3 TBy (9m 3s ap) - #4 PTM (10m 20s ap) - #5 STN (12m 6s ap) - #6 XXX (12m 57s ap) - #7 UK-T (20m 18s ap)



    District.9.R5.DVDR-GALAXY: ->
    #1 ScT (5m 37s ap) - #2 TiT (6m 7s ap) - #3 DH (6m 11s ap) - #4 SCC (7m 3s ap) - #5 GFT (7m 29s ap) - #6 PTM (7m 42s ap) - #7 TL (8m 51s ap)



    Angels.And.Demons.NTSC.DVDR-BULLDOZER: ->
    #1 ScT (1m 54s ap) - #2 CT (9m 8s ap) - #3 PTM (10m 2s ap) - #4 TBy (12m 33s ap) - #5 STN (12m 42s ap) - #6 UK-T (14m 52s ap) - #7 TL (15m 10s ap)



    Imagine.That.PROPER.DVDR-BOW: ->
    #1 SCC (3m 26s ap) - #2 ScT (3m 37s ap) - #3 XXX (4m 52s ap) - #4 GFT (5m 6s ap) - #5 XXX (6m 13s ap) - #6 UK-T (6m 44s ap) - #8 PTM (7m 16s ap)



    The.Proposal.DVDR-BOW: ->

    #1 ScT (3m 22s ap) - #2 SCC (3m 57s ap) - #3 TiT (4m 15s ap) - #4 DH (4m 17s ap) - #5 GFT (5m 14s ap) - #6 FF (7m 3s ap) - #7 PTM (7m 37s ap)



    My.Life.in.Ruins.DVDR-Replica: ->
    #1 ScT (3m 32s ap) - #2 SCC (3m 52s ap) - #3 GFT (5m 45s ap) - #4 TL (6m 42s ap) - #5 CT (11m 21s ap) - #6 STN (11m 21s ap) - #7 XXX (12m 52s ap)



    Blood.The.Last.Vampire.DVDR-MPTDVD: ->
    #1 ScT (4m 27s ap) - #2 SCC (4m 43s ap) - #3 TL (5m 50s ap) - #4 GFT (6m 51s ap) - #5 FF (7m 24s ap) - #6 TCS (9m 21s ap) - #7 UK-T (11m 25s ap)



    TV XVID (worth racing) from the 25th (Friday night) + F1:

    Formula1.2009.Singapore.Grand.Prix.WS.PDTV.XviD-ANGELiC: ->
    #1 ScT (6m 18s ap) - #2 SCC (6m 27s ap) - #3 GFT (6m 28s ap) - #4 CT (6m 46s ap) - #5 UK-T (6m 57s ap) - #6 TL (9m 28s ap) - #7 PTM (9m 37s ap)

    Formula1.2009.Singapore.Grand.Prix.Qualifying.WS.PDTV.XviD-ANGELiC: ->
    #1 GFT (4m 20s ap) - #2 ScT (8m 32s ap) - #3 SCC (8m 39s ap) - #4 CT (9m 3s ap) - #5 PT (9m 8s ap) - #6 UK-T (10m 27s ap) - #7 PTM (10m 48s ap)

    Smallville.S09E01.HDTV.XviD-XII: ->

    #1 ScT (27s ap) - #2 SCC (30s ap) - #3 TV (54s ap) - #4 GFT (1m 4s ap) - #5 XXX (1m 7s ap) - #6 ViZZ (1m 16s ap) - #7 FF (1m 32s ap)

    Brothers.2009.S01E01.Pilot.REPACK.HDTV.XviD-FQM: ->
    #1 ScT (13s ap) - #2 XXX (27s ap) - #3 GFT (30s ap) - #4 STN (33s ap) - #5 XXX (35s ap) - #6 FF (37s ap) - #7 UK-T (37s ap)

    Supernatural.S05E03.Free.to.Be.You.and.Me.REPACK.HDTV.XviD-FQM: ->
    #1 SCC (25s ap) - #2 ScT (41s ap) - #3 XXX (43s ap) - #4 TV (45s ap) - #5 GFT (51s ap) - #6 PT (52s ap) - #7 XXX (52s ap)

    Psych.S04E07.High.Top.Fade.Out.HDTV.XviD-FQM: ->
    #1 ScT (19s ap) - #2 SCC (24s ap) - #3 TV (40s ap) - #4 PT (42s ap) - #5 FF (52s ap) - #6 STN (1m 13s ap) - #7 ViZZ (1m 23s ap)

    Flashpoint.S03E01.HDTV.XviD-NoTV: ->
    #1 SCC (35s ap) - #2 ScT (50s ap) - #3 FF (57s ap) - #4 GFT (57s ap) - #5 PT (58s ap) - #6 STN (58s ap) - #7 ScL (1m ap)

    Numb3rs.S06E01.HDTV.XviD-LOL: ->
    #1 ScT (12s ap) - #2 GFT (33s ap) - #3 SCC (39s ap) - #4 STN (40s ap) - #5 ScL (50s ap) - #6 PT (1m 1s ap) - #7 UK-T (1m 7s ap)

    Dollhouse.S02E01.HDTV.XviD-XII: ->
    #1 ScT (16s ap) - #2 SCC (20s ap) - #3 GFT (47s ap) - #4 PT (52s ap) - #5 FF (1m ap) - #6 ScL (1m 7s ap) - #7 ViZZ (1m 7s ap)

    Law.and.Order.S20E01.HDTV.XviD-LOL: ->

    #1 SCC (36s ap) - #2 XXX (1m 4s ap) - #3 TV (1m 4s ap) - #4 ScT (1m 17s ap) - #5 ViZZ (1m 19s ap) - #6 GFT (1m 19s ap) - #7 STN (1m 21s ap)

    Medium.S06E01.HDTV.XviD-NoTV: ->
    #1 ScT (34s ap) - #2 TV (48s ap) - #3 STN (56s ap) - #4 GFT (58s ap) - #5 FF (1m 5s ap) - #6 XXX (1m 6s ap) - #7 SCC (1m 8s ap)

    Ghost.Whisperer.S05E01.HDTV.XviD-NoTV: ->
    #1 SCC (1m 3s ap) - #2 GFT (1m 29s ap) - #3 STN (1m 54s ap) - #4 ScL (2m 2s ap) - #5 ViZZ (2m 39s ap) - #6 ScT (2m 46s ap) - #7 XXX (2m 48s ap)



    Long update but there it is.

    As you can see, ScT / SCC / GFT are the 3 best sites out there that are 95% in the top 7. Its all about pretimes, P2P speed, and content and consistancy.


    /fee
    Last edited by Feeling; 09-27-2009 at 07:38 PM.


  6. BitTorrent   -   #56
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    I agree those are very good sites Feeling but you have to mention TL also if you want to compare content. I know you are strictly scene releases 99% of the time but TL has a much better selection of old releases and non-scene HD content (which is the only thing people should really download for HD)

    Anyway I don't think its any secret that SCT has very fast pre-times and speeds. What really makes you such a good site is that you have been that way for a very long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swepsycho View Post
    ptm is good....
    it is excellent site, but not good pretimes. every1 knows it. SCT,SCC and GFT are kings (not a member there at any of them) and it is weird i never heard of BSk, sX, TV, CT and STN. what sites are these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeling View Post
    Update / Bump, again, sites marked as XXX are sites that do not wished to be mentioned.

    XviD Films (worth racing) from the last week:

    Transformers.Revenge.of.the.Fallen.DVDRip.XviD-iMBT: ->
    #1 ScT (1m 5s ap) - #2 GFT (1m 34s ap) - #3 SCC (1m 44s ap) - #4 PT (2m 19s ap) - #5 STN (2m 37s ap) - #6 UK-T (2m 42s ap) - #7 TiT (2m 57s ap)



    The.Proposal.DVDRip.XviD-JUMANJi: ->
    #1 ScT (1m 7s ap) - #2 GFT (1m 37s ap) - #3 TiT (1m 41s ap) - #4 DH (1m 41s ap) - #5 STN (2m 13s ap) - #6 PT (2m 16s ap) - #7 SCC (2m 26s ap)



    Drag.Me.To.Hell.DVDRip.XviD-iMBT: ->
    #1 ScT (1m 5s ap) - #2 TiT (1m 24s ap) - #3 DH (1m 24s ap) - #4 XXX (1m 33s ap) - #5 PT (2m ap) - #6 STN (2m 14s ap) - #7 TV (2m 14s ap)



    Star.Trek.DVDRip.XviD-iMBT: ->
    #1 ScT (1m 39s ap) - #2 TiT (2m 4s ap) - #3 DH (2m 4s ap) - #4 BSk (2m 46s ap) - #5 IPT (3m 31s ap) - #6 TL (3m 31s ap) - #7 UK-T (3m 33s ap)



    My.Life.in.Ruins.DVDRip.XviD-DiAMOND: ->
    #1 TV (57s ap) - #2 XXX (1m 4s ap) - #3 SCC (1m 9s ap) - #4 TL (1m 49s ap) - #5 BSk (2m 4s ap) - #6 PTM (2m 18s ap) - #7 ViZZ (2m 29s ap)




    X264 Films (worth racing) from the last week:

    Ice.Age.Dawn.Of.The.Dinosaurs.720p.BluRay.x264-METiS: ->
    #1 ScT (2m 32s ap) - #2 GFT (2m 59s ap) - #3 TiT (3m 6s ap) - #4 DH (3m 8s ap) - #5 TV (3m 17s ap) - #6 SCC (4m 4s ap) - #7 sX (4m 13s ap)



    Transformers.Revenge.of.the.Fallen.720p.BluRay.x264-HUBRiS: ->
    #1 ScT (3m 20s ap) - #2 SCC (4m 7s ap) - #3 sX (5m 14s ap) - #4 ScR (7m 18s ap) - #5 GFT (7m 31s ap) - #6 TV (7m 50s ap) - #7 PTM (10m 46s ap)



    Drag.Me.to.Hell.720p.BluRay.x264-METiS: ->
    #1 GFT (4m 1s ap) - #2 ScT (4m 15s ap) - #3 TV (5m 18s ap) - #4 sX (6m 12s ap) - #5 PTM (6m 24s ap) - #6 TBy (7m 51s ap) - #7 UK-T (10m 24s ap)



    The.GirlFriend.Experience.2009.720p.BluRay.x264-AVCHD: ->
    #1 ScT (4m 52s ap) - #2 TiT (5m 55s ap) - #3 DH (5m 57s ap) - #4 TV (6m 10s ap) - #5 SCC (6m 30s ap) - #6 STN (6m 59s ap) - #7 FF (18m 37s ap)



    The.Proposal.720p.BluRay.x264-iNFAMOUS: ->
    #1 ScT (3m 48s ap) - #2 GFT (4m 58s ap) - #3 SCC (5m 7s ap) - #4 TV (5m 7s ap) - #5 TL (6m 11s ap) - #6 STN (6m 35s ap) - #7 PTM (8m 43s ap)



    My.Life.in.Ruins.720p.BluRay.x264-HUBRIS: ->
    #1 ScT (2m 36s ap) - #2 SCC (3m 9s ap) - #3 TL (5m 38s ap) - #4 GFT (6m 14s ap) - #5 STN (7m 20s ap) - #6 XXX (7m 58s ap) - #7 XXX (8m 14s ap)



    Year.One.720p.BluRay.x264-iNFAMOUS: ->
    #1 SCC (3m 41s ap) - #2 ScT (3m 51s ap) - #3 GFT (4m 45s ap) - #4 PTM (6m 32s ap) - #5 STN (6m 55s ap) - #6 TBy (7m 39s ap) - #7 FF (8m 27s ap)



    Imagine.That.720p.BluRay.x264-iNFAMOUS: ->
    #1 ScT (3m 29s ap) - #2 TV (5m 51s ap) - #3 STN (6m 21s ap) - #4 SCC (6m 41s ap) - #5 TL (9m 50s ap) - #6 TBy (17m 44s ap) - #7 PTM (18m 38s ap)




    DVDR Films (worth racing) from the last week:

    Night.At.The.Museum.Battle.Of.The.Smithsonain.PROPER.NTSC.DVDR-BULLDOZER: ->
    #1 ScT (2m 57s ap) - #2 XXX (5m 28s ap) - #3 TBy (9m 3s ap) - #4 PTM (10m 20s ap) - #5 STN (12m 6s ap) - #6 XXX (12m 57s ap) - #7 UK-T (20m 18s ap)



    District.9.R5.DVDR-GALAXY: ->
    #1 ScT (5m 37s ap) - #2 TiT (6m 7s ap) - #3 DH (6m 11s ap) - #4 SCC (7m 3s ap) - #5 GFT (7m 29s ap) - #6 PTM (7m 42s ap) - #7 TL (8m 51s ap)



    Angels.And.Demons.NTSC.DVDR-BULLDOZER: ->
    #1 ScT (1m 54s ap) - #2 CT (9m 8s ap) - #3 PTM (10m 2s ap) - #4 TBy (12m 33s ap) - #5 STN (12m 42s ap) - #6 UK-T (14m 52s ap) - #7 TL (15m 10s ap)



    Imagine.That.PROPER.DVDR-BOW: ->
    #1 SCC (3m 26s ap) - #2 ScT (3m 37s ap) - #3 XXX (4m 52s ap) - #4 GFT (5m 6s ap) - #5 XXX (6m 13s ap) - #6 UK-T (6m 44s ap) - #8 PTM (7m 16s ap)



    The.Proposal.DVDR-BOW: ->

    #1 ScT (3m 22s ap) - #2 SCC (3m 57s ap) - #3 TiT (4m 15s ap) - #4 DH (4m 17s ap) - #5 GFT (5m 14s ap) - #6 FF (7m 3s ap) - #7 PTM (7m 37s ap)



    My.Life.in.Ruins.DVDR-Replica: ->
    #1 ScT (3m 32s ap) - #2 SCC (3m 52s ap) - #3 GFT (5m 45s ap) - #4 TL (6m 42s ap) - #5 CT (11m 21s ap) - #6 STN (11m 21s ap) - #7 XXX (12m 52s ap)



    Blood.The.Last.Vampire.DVDR-MPTDVD: ->
    #1 ScT (4m 27s ap) - #2 SCC (4m 43s ap) - #3 TL (5m 50s ap) - #4 GFT (6m 51s ap) - #5 FF (7m 24s ap) - #6 TCS (9m 21s ap) - #7 UK-T (11m 25s ap)



    TV XVID (worth racing) from the 25th (Friday night) + F1:

    Formula1.2009.Singapore.Grand.Prix.WS.PDTV.XviD-ANGELiC: ->
    #1 ScT (6m 18s ap) - #2 SCC (6m 27s ap) - #3 GFT (6m 28s ap) - #4 CT (6m 46s ap) - #5 UK-T (6m 57s ap) - #6 TL (9m 28s ap) - #7 PTM (9m 37s ap)

    Formula1.2009.Singapore.Grand.Prix.Qualifying.WS.PDTV.XviD-ANGELiC: ->
    #1 GFT (4m 20s ap) - #2 ScT (8m 32s ap) - #3 SCC (8m 39s ap) - #4 CT (9m 3s ap) - #5 PT (9m 8s ap) - #6 UK-T (10m 27s ap) - #7 PTM (10m 48s ap)

    Smallville.S09E01.HDTV.XviD-XII: ->

    #1 ScT (27s ap) - #2 SCC (30s ap) - #3 TV (54s ap) - #4 GFT (1m 4s ap) - #5 XXX (1m 7s ap) - #6 ViZZ (1m 16s ap) - #7 FF (1m 32s ap)

    Brothers.2009.S01E01.Pilot.REPACK.HDTV.XviD-FQM: ->
    #1 ScT (13s ap) - #2 XXX (27s ap) - #3 GFT (30s ap) - #4 STN (33s ap) - #5 XXX (35s ap) - #6 FF (37s ap) - #7 UK-T (37s ap)

    Supernatural.S05E03.Free.to.Be.You.and.Me.REPACK.HDTV.XviD-FQM: ->
    #1 SCC (25s ap) - #2 ScT (41s ap) - #3 XXX (43s ap) - #4 TV (45s ap) - #5 GFT (51s ap) - #6 PT (52s ap) - #7 XXX (52s ap)

    Psych.S04E07.High.Top.Fade.Out.HDTV.XviD-FQM: ->
    #1 ScT (19s ap) - #2 SCC (24s ap) - #3 TV (40s ap) - #4 PT (42s ap) - #5 FF (52s ap) - #6 STN (1m 13s ap) - #7 ViZZ (1m 23s ap)

    Flashpoint.S03E01.HDTV.XviD-NoTV: ->
    #1 SCC (35s ap) - #2 ScT (50s ap) - #3 FF (57s ap) - #4 GFT (57s ap) - #5 PT (58s ap) - #6 STN (58s ap) - #7 ScL (1m ap)

    Numb3rs.S06E01.HDTV.XviD-LOL: ->
    #1 ScT (12s ap) - #2 GFT (33s ap) - #3 SCC (39s ap) - #4 STN (40s ap) - #5 ScL (50s ap) - #6 PT (1m 1s ap) - #7 UK-T (1m 7s ap)

    Dollhouse.S02E01.HDTV.XviD-XII: ->
    #1 ScT (16s ap) - #2 SCC (20s ap) - #3 GFT (47s ap) - #4 PT (52s ap) - #5 FF (1m ap) - #6 ScL (1m 7s ap) - #7 ViZZ (1m 7s ap)

    Law.and.Order.S20E01.HDTV.XviD-LOL: ->

    #1 SCC (36s ap) - #2 XXX (1m 4s ap) - #3 TV (1m 4s ap) - #4 ScT (1m 17s ap) - #5 ViZZ (1m 19s ap) - #6 GFT (1m 19s ap) - #7 STN (1m 21s ap)

    Medium.S06E01.HDTV.XviD-NoTV: ->
    #1 ScT (34s ap) - #2 TV (48s ap) - #3 STN (56s ap) - #4 GFT (58s ap) - #5 FF (1m 5s ap) - #6 XXX (1m 6s ap) - #7 SCC (1m 8s ap)

    Ghost.Whisperer.S05E01.HDTV.XviD-NoTV: ->
    #1 SCC (1m 3s ap) - #2 GFT (1m 29s ap) - #3 STN (1m 54s ap) - #4 ScL (2m 2s ap) - #5 ViZZ (2m 39s ap) - #6 ScT (2m 46s ap) - #7 XXX (2m 48s ap)



    Long update but there it is.

    As you can see, ScT / SCC / GFT are the 3 best sites out there that are 95% in the top 7. Its all about pretimes, P2P speed, and content and constancy.


    /fee
    ttc is not in tracer....? am sure is fastest....

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    Jesus Swepsycho take off the quote on that thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swepsycho View Post
    ttc is not in tracer....? am sure is fastest....
    +1
    whenever people agree with me, i always feel i must be wrong.

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