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    There is no way to tell who is a true leecher on BT (well unless the site itself keeps track of it like torrentbits). When a file is seeded there has to be leechers thats what makes BT so fast and every user must finish the file to seed it. So if they drop off without seeding there share it's to late anyways. bout the only thing you could do is log ip addresses and keep track and if they keep doing it then ban the ip but thats way to much work...

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    most BT clients will upload the most to the ppl you download the most from, so leechers will have slower download speeds then ppl who upload (without saturating their upstream) more.

    Since there are almost always more prospective downloaders than you have bandwidth for, your client has to choose which ones to share with. It picks by giving preference to the people who share the most with it. This means the people who upload the most get the fastest downloads, a property known as "leech resistance", since it discourages "leeches" from trying to download the file without uploading it to anyone.
    source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent

    EDIT: with azureus you can ban downloaders with a simple rightclick option
    Last edited by Vargas; 01-13-2005 at 03:57 PM.

  3. BitTorrent   -   #13
    Thats what i like about private and exclusive sites like fasttracker, if we see a leecher there out, and iv never had bad speeds on a scene release there before. BT should become more privatised, its the only way to cut it out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by freak
    There is no way to tell who is a true leecher on BT (well unless the site itself keeps track of it like torrentbits). When a file is seeded there has to be leechers thats what makes BT so fast and every user must finish the file to seed it.
    Actually you usually start seeding it as soon as you've got a complete block, assuming someone else wants that block. It is just that you aren't marked as seeding because you are downloading at the same time. That's what makes bittorrent successful.
    Quote Originally Posted by freak
    So if they drop off without seeding there share it's to late anyways. bout the only thing you could do is log ip addresses and keep track and if they keep doing it then ban the ip but thats way to much work...
    Logging users IP addresses and have the tracker record their activity is about the only way to do it. Good sites like elitetorrents, filelist, 123torrents do this, and kick users with persistently low up/down ratios.

    But it is simple mathematics that if anyone is going to have a ratio greater than 1.000 then some people must have a ratio less than 1.000, if everyone had a ratio greater than 1 then you are uploading to nowhere which is just a waste of bandwidth.

  5. BitTorrent   -   #15
    Quote Originally Posted by lynx
    Actually you usually start seeding it as soon as you've got a complete block, assuming someone else wants that block. It is just that you aren't marked as seeding because you are downloading at the same time. That's what makes bittorrent successful.
    Logging users IP addresses and have the tracker record their activity is about the only way to do it. Good sites like elitetorrents, filelist, 123torrents do this, and kick users with persistently low up/down ratios.

    But it is simple mathematics that if anyone is going to have a ratio greater than 1.000 then some people must have a ratio less than 1.000, if everyone had a ratio greater than 1 then you are uploading to nowhere which is just a waste of bandwidth.
    Well I guess if you call that seeding... I really don't think of it as seeding tell the files finished... *shurgs* meh

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