on download.com all i found was webroot window washer 5.0. is that the one?
on download.com all i found was webroot window washer 5.0. is that the one?
also, will windows washer clean up my registry?
nope sorry i can still get those files off your hd bossOriginally posted by james_bond_rulez@7 November 2003 - 05:23
norton's wipe info , which uses America Nation Defense approved digital shredding standard,called government wipe, is a 7 step procedure and overwrites ur data with hex codes. you can repeat this precedure as many time as you like and will be garenteed inretreivable
however if you use win me or xp be sure to disable window restore/and restore points (government wipe those restore point files) to make sure you complete SHRED those unwanted porn...![]()
@ninjamonkey yes thats the one, the idea is to either download that and then find a serial for it or look in klite or emule and find a full version to download, no matter what you need the full version, for registry clean use registry mechanics go here
MM could have a point, i got an "evidence elimimator" prog, and after a few drive zaps i checked out one of those recovery tools and SWEAR i saw some stuff that was supposed to have been made "unrecoverable" by the prog, so....?????Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@8 November 2003 - 12:19
nope sorry i can still get those files off your hd boss![]()
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Technically speaking, all these programs are worth nothing. But you cannot always get the files back. 99% times you can but sometimes the file structure can be overwritten and the empty disk space can be shredded. Programmers know the structure of hard drives and how the restoring a file works.Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@8 November 2003 - 15:19
nope sorry i can still get those files off your hd boss
But most commonly anything can be recovered. All shredders are mythical softwares.
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Not if you use government wipe!Originally posted by I.am@8 November 2003 - 17:55
...anything can be recovered....![]()
Not if you use government wipe!Originally posted by Supernatural+8 November 2003 - 19:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Supernatural @ 8 November 2003 - 19:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-I.am@8 November 2003 - 17:55
...anything can be recovered....[/b][/quote]
When I say anything, I mean anything...
(I mentioned 99% times it can be done)
Even the government agencies physically destroy their hdd if the data cannot be compromised at any expense.
If you do want to know:
The most common methods used in industry and the military are:
1) Acid batch. The disk media are placed in an acid bath (usually HCL acid) until the magnetic coating is completely etched away. This can, of course, be done at home since HCL is readily available. Sulfuric acid will work also and can be obtained at any auto supply house.
2) Grinding. While industry uses machines that essentially plane the surface of the media and remove the coating you can do the same with a small body grinder and a sanding disc. The coating is very thin and only a light grinding/sanding will remove it entirely.
If you talk to any person in this field. The answer will be the same.
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So you telling me you can recover a document I deleted 5 years ago? I doubt that.
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@Supernatural/Iam - I've dealt with the engineering of hard drive since 86 and until today and besides what Iam mentioned (true) ONLY the manufacturer of the hd can 100% destroy the data and be able to reuse the hd.
The trick is ZeroFill, it's a lengthy process that requires specific equipements (won't bore u with the details) and an engineer of such manufacturer. there are companies today that say they use this technology in their software, yet the success ratio is close to what the gov does, around 75-90%.
each manufacturer has their own ZeroFill process and one cannot work on another.
so, if anyone is ever concerned about the data and want to Zerofill, contact the hd manuf directly, no 3rd party, and ask for how much and/or if they can send u their free zerofill utility (90% ratio).
software company's these days are using fancy shmanzy name and words to sell their product and their marketing dept has done the research and found that the majority of PC users are unknowledgable about such technology
rarely users research on their own and make their own LOGICAL decisions. After all, we dealing with ZERO & ONE.
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