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    I can't recall the name of the comedian who said (Louis Black maybe?)....

    "People always ask me if I'm a Republican or a Democrat.

    I tell them that I can't really be either...

    I can't be a Democrat because I want to keep the money I earn, and spend it.

    And I tell them I can't be a Republican because I want to spend that money on drugs and whores!"

    so I guess that would make him a Libertarian, too...
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  2. The Drawing Room   -   #22
    clocker wrote:

    And I tell them I can't be a Republican because I want to spend that money on drugs and whores!"

    so I guess that would make him a Libertarian, too...
    Hehe, I can live with that. But, I suspect Republicans spend just as much money (if not more) on drugs and whores as the Democrats do. They just spend it more quietly.

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    Originally posted by OlderThanDirt@24 May 2003 - 16:53


    Hehe, I can live with that. But, I suspect Republicans spend just as much money (if not more) on drugs and whores as the Democrats do. They just spend it more quietly.
    hmmm...ya think??
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  4. The Drawing Room   -   #24
    Yes ... but God forgave him (snarf).

    How about this guy:

    "Wha...he turned me into a newt...it got better!" (Monty Python)


    From the Skeleton Closet website:

    Several newspapers are now reporting that Newt Gingrich is dating and basically living with Callista Bisek, a "willowy blond Congressional aide 23 years his junior." Biske, 33, has been spending nights at Gingrich's apartment near the Capitol and has her own key. In an amazing act of hypocrisy, Gingrich was apparently dating Bisek all during Clinton-Lewinsky adultery scandal, even as he proclaimed family values and bitterly criticized the President for his adultery.

    Reporters and other Washington insiders have known about this relationship since 1994, even before Gingrich became Speaker of the House, but did not have any solid proof to report. In 1995, Vanity Fair magazine described Bisek as Gingrich's "frequent breakfast companion." Gingrich was married to Marianne Gingrich during all of that time, and just filed for divorce in August 1999.

    Newt is apparently trying to create a new hybrid form, Christian adultery. According to MSNBC, Bisek sings in the National Shrine Choir, and Newt would often wait for her at the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, listening to her sing while he read the Bible.

    This is hardly the first time Newt has cheated, either. "It was common knowledge that Newt was involved with other women during his [first] marriage to Jackie. Maybe not on the level of John Kennedy. But he had girlfriends -- some serious, some trivial." -- Dot Crews, his campaign scheduler throughout the 70s. One woman, Anne Manning, has come forward and confirmed a relationship with him during the 1976 campaign. "We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'"

    Kip Carter, his former campaign treasurer, was walking Newt's daughters back from a football game one day and cut across a driveway where he saw a car. "As I got to the car, I saw Newt in the passenger seat and one of the guys' wives with her head in his lap going up and down. Newt kind of turned and gave me this little-boy smile. Fortunately, Jackie Sue and Kathy were a lot younger and shorter then."

  5. The Drawing Room   -   #25
    Originally posted by OlderThanDirt@25 May 2003 - 00:26
    Yes ... but God forgave him (snarf).

    How about this guy:

    "Wha...he turned me into a newt...it got better!" (Monty Python)


    From the Skeleton Closet website:

    Several newspapers are now reporting that Newt Gingrich is dating and basically living with Callista Bisek, a "willowy blond Congressional aide 23 years his junior." Biske, 33, has been spending nights at Gingrich's apartment near the Capitol and has her own key. In an amazing act of hypocrisy, Gingrich was apparently dating Bisek all during Clinton-Lewinsky adultery scandal, even as he proclaimed family values and bitterly criticized the President for his adultery.

    Reporters and other Washington insiders have known about this relationship since 1994, even before Gingrich became Speaker of the House, but did not have any solid proof to report. In 1995, Vanity Fair magazine described Bisek as Gingrich's "frequent breakfast companion." Gingrich was married to Marianne Gingrich during all of that time, and just filed for divorce in August 1999.

    Newt is apparently trying to create a new hybrid form, Christian adultery. According to MSNBC, Bisek sings in the National Shrine Choir, and Newt would often wait for her at the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, listening to her sing while he read the Bible.

    This is hardly the first time Newt has cheated, either. "It was common knowledge that Newt was involved with other women during his [first] marriage to Jackie. Maybe not on the level of John Kennedy. But he had girlfriends -- some serious, some trivial." -- Dot Crews, his campaign scheduler throughout the 70s. One woman, Anne Manning, has come forward and confirmed a relationship with him during the 1976 campaign. "We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'"

    Kip Carter, his former campaign treasurer, was walking Newt's daughters back from a football game one day and cut across a driveway where he saw a car. "As I got to the car, I saw Newt in the passenger seat and one of the guys' wives with her head in his lap going up and down. Newt kind of turned and gave me this little-boy smile. Fortunately, Jackie Sue and Kathy were a lot younger and shorter then."
    It is posts like these which help to document for the naive why I have a fatalistic attitude about politics. All we do is trade one liar for another. What is the point?

    Hypocracy, lies, misdirection and obfuscation: these are the personality traits of those who succeed in politics.

    This is as true today as it will be 200 years from now.

    It is something about the desire for power that attracts these types.
    Aren't we in the trust tree, thingey?

  6. The Drawing Room   -   #26
    hobbes wrote:

    Hypocracy, lies, misdirection and obfuscation: these are the personality traits of those who succeed in politics.
    At least our politicians are generally polite . They don't go around trying to assassinate each other like, say, in the Philippines.

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    Originally posted by hobbes@24 May 2003 - 17:40


    Hypocracy, lies, misdirection and obfuscation: these are the personality traits of those who succeed in politics.

    "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."
    "I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg

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    You're right about Republican spending.

    I'm reminded of a Jay Leno quote from years ago:

    Every time I think 'Democrat', they do something stupid.

    Every time I think 'Republican', they do something greedy.

    I, therefore, have re-defined myself, and now occupy my own, one-man political school of thought; what's cool is I don't even have to name it.

    If I did, though, it would begin with the prefix 'Paleo-'
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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  9. The Drawing Room   -   #29
    I just refer to myself as a "militant moderate," guaranteeing angst from both extremes. For example, I'm pro-life ... but for scientific, not religious, reasons. And, I believe that "under God" should be taken out of the Pledge of Allegiance for reasons of "historic preservation" of the work as it was originally written. Being a moderate keeps people guessing what I really think, hehe ... and the "militant" part means my views can swing to either extreme. Perhaps I should call myself a pendulumist (or would that be a pendulumian). My views on universal health care would make people think I'm a socialist ... but my views on death penalty reform would make people think I'm a barbarian, hehe.

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    Originally posted by OlderThanDirt@24 May 2003 - 20:26
      Being a moderate keeps people guessing what I really think, hehe ... and the "militant" part means my views can swing to either extreme.  Perhaps I should call myself a pendulumist (or would that be a pendulumian).


    hmmm... today I feel Liberal!
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