An increase in back-alley abortion clinics, and therefore an increase in the fatality rate from said procedures.
What prompted this one j2?
An increase in back-alley abortion clinics, and therefore an increase in the fatality rate from said procedures.
What prompted this one j2?
things are quiet until hitler decides he'd like to invade russia
so, he does
the russians are like "OMG WTF D00DZ, STOP TKING"
and the germans are still like "omg ph34r n00bz"
the russians fall back, all the way to moscow
and then they all begin h4xing, which brings on the russian winter
the germans are like "wtf, h4x"
-- WW2 for the l33t
A few more Republican votes?
"First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win."
Massive amounts of appeals to the supreme court in an order to reinstate Roe V Wade, and then more appeals to repeal it again.
There's no winning for anyone on this one. It's a self-perpetuating cycle, no matter which side of the debate you're on.
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Probably the bump of his " Surpreme Court Decisions poll "Originally Posted by MagicNakor
as for my answer to the question, in agreement with MagicNakor and ReoDeLeo's answers, also an argument of what is and what is not " the right of privacy"
I've heard a lot of spin from the activists on this. It's played up by the pro choice and down by the anti choice sides. Hard to take either side seriously.
I think the initial short term thing would be around 10-20 states banning abortion completely after reverting almost instantly to the statutes still "on the books" others would bring in restrictions such as bans on late term procedures but these will be harder to keep unless they allow for the procedure to take place for the sake of the mothers health, which has been a stumbling block in the past.
I'm not sure if the "back street" abortion issue will happen on any significant scale but it will happen in poor districts.
I think it's possible that there will be some political backlash but to what level I'm not sure. The reason I think this is because poll after poll suggests that about 60-70% don't think roe should be overturned. However probably only 30-40% are strongly opposed to overturning it and they probably don't vote republican anyway. Also the fact that we haven't seen any legislation make it through that would overrule it. This suggests that our lawmakers think that it may cost them votes.
Overturning roe will not be the end of the issue. On either side.
Pro choice will be fighting to give everyone equal rights to decide no matter what state they live in.
Anti freedom (made that up just for you j2 ) will campaign to ban abortion at federal level. I'm affraid I find the "states rights" arguement unbelievable. It is about banning abortion, nothing else, ad if they can ban it at federal level they will not care about states rights.
Of course at this time in history a federal ban isn't likely. Even with our current theocratic government.
One thing I can say I think will happen is that the political divide we have already will be widened.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
..........especially when your own opinion is usually noticeably absent.Originally Posted by j2k4
I would like a conservative challenged on this issue.
Are all abortions to be banned? If it murder then there can't be abortion based on an unhealthy baby. That's a perceived mercy killing. If your baby is unhealthy tough.
Got raped? Tough.
Incest? Tough.
To compromise, it throws their "life starts at conception so killing that life is murder" out the window.
If their are 5 conservative judges and a conservative congress, Roe/Wade will be repealed. It is too important to a theocratic government or should I say, a government that appears theocratic (in essence full of shit).
I like what someone else said...there will be numerous appeals and appeals of appeals.
The court is likely to have some weird rationale behind their decision just like it did in the original case.....one being the pursuit of liberty?
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NoOriginally Posted by j2k4
Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!
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I suppose that was a bit of a generalisation, I should have said "activists" at the end of "pro choice" and "anti freedom", because those are the ones "getting into it"Originally Posted by j2k4
However if as you think the issue will end at overturning then I look forward to never having to listen to the likes of Tony Perkins on abortion again because if his state decides to allow it he will be happy with it as it's the state that decided it.
Personally I think roe v wade is correct because of my view on individual
freedoms.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
That is the crux of the argument.Originally Posted by vidcc
Are you free to kill children? Is that a liberty that should be protected?
Then also, under what circumstances? In all circumstances?
Last edited by Busyman; 07-31-2005 at 07:42 PM.
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And this is exactly what I meant by "this argument will have no winners, it will go on forever"Originally Posted by Busyman
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