Kazaa - Farewell

[RealitY]

Regarding KaZaa, someone mentioned just don't share and your problem is solved. Then what is the point, this is the attitude that causes uploads slots to be full while you can't download shit. I am just finishing a file that has taken about a week, in the past would've been in a few hours. After this file I may close my KaZaa window for good. There are to many other places to go that are far better, something I was never able to say before since the Fast Track Network was the fastest. Although now it is flooded with malicious code, fakes and snoops.

I think I must move on, though I am sad to say goodbye. It is a shame that the folks at Sharman have not taken steps to protect our idenities and have left us in the lurch chasing down the likes of Peer Guardian. It seems clear most users never make it that far and just give up and stop sharing.

It actually amazes me to think about what I have done to share, Peer Guardian which I update at least once a week, privacy patch which is now a built in option, My fw Zone Alarm, my router for a little extra, and I am even using proxies now, phew. What a pain in the ass to share on a network that you can't download anything. All the hashes at FastTrackMovies are a waste unless you plan to do some serious waiting, and what for.

As I said before, its like that "hot babe" your doing, and then suddenly shes the "old lady". I also have no intention on getting a letter, what for, not interested, and considering that my Peer Guardian is taking hits while KaZaa is off, well... Farewell, I will continue to share, though not here, and should I feel guilty, what for. After all, no one else is, why should I, though I will no longer take from here either.

[3RA1N1AC]

just clean out your desk and leave. don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

[zegglechili]

theres a program you can download that stops riaa from scanning your ports... simple! problem solved just make sure u have it running when kazaa is running then u can still share... if u want it email me [email protected]. The program blocks their ip's!

[stoi]

Hear, Hear, ive been saying this for the last 2 months, just pleased another regular on the board has had the same experience and is not afraid to voice it here on the "k-lite" forum.

stoi

[Texallen]

Sounds like my problem. Only I had a corrupted db file and fixed it. Self inflicted wound. Sounds like whining to me. WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[Ynhockey]

Hmm, well, for me FastTrack is still the best.

I live in Israel and don't think there's any chance of getting charged for piracy here. Also, FastTrack is the only network for now where you can find something and actually download it. In all other clients (like eMule, Overnet, WinMX, etc. the search option was obsolete because of queues and stuff, and no BitTorrent is a hash-only p2p). That just totally sucks when you have to download a release and if there's no release for what you're looking for, you're screwed. Until there's another P2P when search does something, i will be using KLite as my main prog. However, ES5 has some potential...

Still, it's your choice... eDonkey and Bittorrent and ES5 all have their merits too :) good luck.

[downloader2008]

1) i know what you mean! no one is sharing anymore! almost every verified download i wanna download "needs more sources"
2) its too bad.... fasttrack network is the best..... the edonkey network makes you wait in queue for hours to get a 5kb/s d/l rate
3) try using the gnutella network, use Bearshare (http://www.bearshare.com) its almost like Kazaa except for the Gnutella network....

[RealitY]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@30 May 2003 - 11:35
just clean out your desk and leave. don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Thats funny, though, don't forget as the door hits my ass, it is also another XXMB of an external drive with a large shared folder you will not be uploading from anymore, unfortunatly. I think I have pretty much regularly ul my 7.5GB that is allowed by my ISP monthly.

Also as mentioned I do use PG to stop spooks. It is just a fact people are NOT sharing as they used to. Sharman should be packaging PG with KaZaa for the public at large so they have some protection, thus maybe people would not be getting all the letters, emails and phone calls, and maybe they would still be sharing. P2P's like Shareaza are up to date on security issues. Seems, probably, most regular KaZaa users never heard of PG or know about any security, though they heard about the RISKS (mostly hype) and emptied their shared folders. This is getting worse and worse.

After years as a KaZaa user I can only say its been good, and fast. I have enjoyed it and will visit on ocassion for old times sake. I am not whining as also said here. I am just dissapointed.

[Tyke]

this is by no means a personal attackx, but

So you gonna give in? You're gonna add to the holes where downloadable files used to be. Well done, way to go!

Sure, kazaa will not last forever. In the scheme of things, kazaa, this forum, whatever, will be obsolete. Hopefully iot will have been superceded by another thing to give the RIAA, MPAA etc etc headaches.

But while it's there, I'll cointinue to let others have anything I rip, any encode, or just offer another source for a popular file. If I ever get the letter from the legal folks (not the stoopid pop-up message from kazaa) then maybe I'll consider my stance, but until then, I do what I can to (1) stop myself from ever recieving such a letter and (2) share what I got from the POV of giving back to the network, seeing as I have taken so much.

Every sharer who leaves is sorely missed by all, but just another victory for the big industry associations.

[RealitY]

I agree with most of what you say, I have up untill now and may hold on a little longer, though I don't need to be the last man standing on a sinking ship. It seems that Sharman saw this coming and have done little to stop it, while others are more than willing to take this seriously.

[m8t]

:D
hello Reality !
i agree with everything you said ,apart from possibly quitting.
i only hope Sharman looks at these forums and picks up on your very valid points for the future of their great p2p network.
regards
m8t :D

[bigmaxy]

Good original post. Sharing does nothing to your downstream bandwidth. I don't know why poeple don't

Don't know what everyone's problem with Emule but I am regularly hitting 20-30 k speeds. Emule is far better and more reliable than Kazaa which now, due to the high porbablility that you're d/l'ing a virus, I only use for music tracks. The big releases never fail with Emule.

[Hdestm8r]

Why should "Sharman" do anything? The "Fastrack" network in particular "Grokster" won a very important legal victory against the RIAA with the ruling their P2P program is LEGAL. By trying to "Hide" indentites and IP's they will start playing right into the RIAA's hands and their contention that "Kazaa" was built for illegal file sharing.

NO matter what P2P program you use, you will be dogged by spooks and bots looking for illegal downloads. The only thing that can make a difference is for people to contact your government representative and urge them to repeal the DMCA. Until that is done sharing files is not legal, bottom line.

As for people not sharing it is a growing problem. Downloading music is "Old Hat" as the new thing is Video. More and more people are downloading video as the media continues to publicize(sp) it. Most of these new people did not grow up in the filesharing community and don't give one iotta about sharing. They get what they want and then leave not sharing.anything. This means that there are more and more people seeking files from the limited sources available. That is why there are so many private DC hubs that require a certain amount of Gigabytes sharing before you even get in the door.

[velcrom]

I'm new to this but it seems to me KLite is flawed, there is no incentive to share files other than goodwill. You can cheat your PL to maximum, leave it there, share not a single byte and still download. If you have a community - and all that goes with it - then that is fine. If you have - as it seems - a random stopping off point for those involved a one way search of free goodies it will ultimately fail.

I may not be typical but I got discouraged on here after a very short period - OK bear in mind this is all free so complaints of any kind are a little ironic but anyway. I eventually tried another P2P and it was a zillion times better. No comparision. Yes, you can say cheating PL 's puts more files into circulation but in the end it is self defeating. If everyone takes and no one gives it won't work.

Sadly it seems if you hand people the option not to give a lot will take it. My view is that the emule credit system is better, if you don't share you can't download. Simple.

[thisiswhoweare]

ive long ago stopped using kazaa.
The reason i did so was "more sources needed" message i always get from the verified hashes. It is dissapoiting to see a once great network become average, I used kazaa for a long time before I quit, but it just has become unfair to others.
I now use Emule, sure its slow sometimes but on average speeds of 40KB out of 75KB, its not too bad and its hashing system is so much easier to find sources. Like many that have pointed out in this thread, the emule credits is one of the biggest reasons people share, but sadly I reckon most of us (leechers especially) will become the downfall for p2p.

[balamm]

Originally posted by velcrom@4 June 2003 - 14:53
My view is that the emule credit system is better, if you don't share you can't download. Simple.
That's not quite true and a lot of people are begining to discover it.
There are always methods to get something for nothing and even emules days may be numbered.
It's definately slowed down since I started using it.

[RealitY]

Seems many things are better than KaZaa though, which was not so true in the past.

[asmithz]

What the hell "FUCK RIAA MPAA AND ALL THE OTHERS!!!" what your all gonna hide just cuase treats are made how the are they gonna get us all Kazaa has 7,000,000 people on every second of the day so there gonna drag us all in and waste money nope there just gonna treat sue and lose how meany people have they sued 2 mabey 3 and the guy who put The Hulk that was his bad for stealling that disc stay on share i have 3 movies 100+ song and alot of software i dont care. we will be fine we will win like always this has been going on for what 3 or 4 years all they got was the shut down of Napster well Napster sucked it was only Mp3's. I think there just the teacher's pet always whining when someone dose something wroung.

If your scare do the update peer guardian every week get a firewall(norton) hide behide a proxy, get a isp no one care's about, and discies you computer so if they did scan your computer it tells them your in a differt state(haha they woulden't find me in virgin like and that where my compuer tells them i am at)

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[RealitY]

Originally posted by Shad0w Hacker@28 June 2003 - 10:59
If your scare do the update peer guardian every week get a firewall(norton) hide behide a proxy, get a isp no one care's about, and discies you computer so if they did scan your computer it tells them your in a differt state(haha they woulden't find me in virgin like and that where my compuer tells them i am at)
1. I do use PeerGuardian which I update twice a week.
2. A fw dosen't protect you in this situation.
3. Proxies are not really for KaZaa use.
4. In a different state, please don't kid yourself, unless you are using a bouncer or the like.

Finally, I am not spooked, just sick of KaZaa and where it is going. Maybe read through my original statement on this post. Although it has been my "babe" for some time, and now is just the "old lady" that I f**k from time to time.

[AR8]

So... if we are sharing a certain amount of mp3s, we're sued? What if we're not sharing? And, what if we're just downloading movie files?

[asmithz]

"REALITY" well i am not sick of kazaa and not spooked eiather but i am going down with the ship so to speak i love kazaa and am staying

[RealitY]

Originally posted by AR8@29 June 2003 - 09:28
So... if we are sharing a certain amount of mp3s, we're sued? What if we're not sharing? And, what if we're just downloading movie files?
Your a SAFE LEECH, now go clean the bathroom before your mom yells at you.

[AR8]

Originally posted by REALITY+29 June 2003 - 10:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (REALITY @ 29 June 2003 - 10:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-AR8@29 June 2003 - 09:28
So... if we are sharing a certain amount of mp3s, we&#39;re sued? What if we&#39;re not sharing? And, what if we&#39;re just downloading movie files?
Your a SAFE LEECH, now go clean the bathroom before your mom yells at you. [/b][/quote]
Um.... ookkk. Let me get this straight, I&#39;ve heard if you are sharing a certain amount of mp3s, then, you&#39;re sued. How can they do that? And, what is this program you speak of that blocks their IP&#39;s?

[scribblec]

dont listen to this prick
this is the guy who thinks es5 is good <_<

[slick nick]

lol@scribblec

While i understand where you&#39;re coming from but kazaa should be solely for porn or popular movies. If autosearchmore is ran long enough you can get rare stuff but as far as being arsed with hashes that&#39;s a total waste imo. IRC or emule should be used for new movies, games and warez. I&#39;m mostly using soulseek for music since i can get a whole album at once and irc and occaisionly emule. I wont abandon kazaa I just recognize its limitations(virus infected software and no sources for new film hashes) and use other options.

[AR8]

Originally posted by AR8+29 June 2003 - 17:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AR8 @ 29 June 2003 - 17:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by REALITY@29 June 2003 - 10:55
<!--QuoteBegin-AR8@29 June 2003 - 09:28
So... if we are sharing a certain amount of mp3s, we&#39;re sued? What if we&#39;re not sharing? And, what if we&#39;re just downloading movie files?
Your a SAFE LEECH, now go clean the bathroom before your mom yells at you.
Um.... ookkk. Let me get this straight, I&#39;ve heard if you are sharing a certain amount of mp3s, then, you&#39;re sued. How can they do that? And, what is this program you speak of that blocks their IP&#39;s? [/b][/quote]
Can someone answer this question?

[shotglass]

Originally posted by REALITY+29 June 2003 - 10:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (REALITY @ 29 June 2003 - 10:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-AR8@29 June 2003 - 09:28
So... if we are sharing a certain amount of mp3s, we&#39;re sued? What if we&#39;re not sharing? And, what if we&#39;re just downloading movie files?
Your a SAFE LEECH, now go clean the bathroom before your mom yells at you. [/b][/quote]
Don&#39;t you DARE wag your finger at the leeches if you&#39;re deserting the ship. They&#39;re simply newbies who don&#39;t understand the nuances of the game.

You, you should know better.

You can&#39;t have it both ways.

[brotherdoobie]

DEAD HORSE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
It&#39;s starting to stink.......... anyone want to help bury it? ;)



Peace brotherdoobie B)

[lynx]

Originally posted by AR8+30 June 2003 - 02:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AR8 @ 30 June 2003 - 02:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by AR8@29 June 2003 - 17:41

Originally posted by REALITY@29 June 2003 - 10:55
<!--QuoteBegin-AR8@29 June 2003 - 09:28
So... if we are sharing a certain amount of mp3s, we&#39;re sued? What if we&#39;re not sharing? And, what if we&#39;re just downloading movie files?
Your a SAFE LEECH, now go clean the bathroom before your mom yells at you.
Um.... ookkk. Let me get this straight, I&#39;ve heard if you are sharing a certain amount of mp3s, then, you&#39;re sued. How can they do that? And, what is this program you speak of that blocks their IP&#39;s?
Can someone answer this question? [/b][/quote]
They already know exactly who you are, but it will take them a little time to get round to you.

Your trial date is set for 17 July 2376.

:rolleyes:

[netwerkjim]

Hey I&#39;ve been doing this P2P, napster, warez FTP, adventures in software for at least 5 or 6 years now and I didn&#39;t know anything about the recording, or movie industry having any kind of search and destroy software, well I knew they had something they wanted to pull out of their ass and use against us cyber warriors, (fools be Phuking with the part of their consumer base with the highest intelligence and overall income) but I didn&#39;t think they wanted to get sued to death for invading my Ace in the hole right to privacy that this wonderful country guarantees it&#39;s sheep. Hey I just found this out today and this Peer Guardian is already installed and running. Just one more added speed bump to what use to be a WWW of pure knowledge, creativity, freedom. I use to be able to drive my truck down onto the beach build a 35 ft. high fire, have 2 kegs of beer and 400 watts of
Van Halen cranked, 20 years ago, now I&#39;d spend 30 to 60 days in jail, it only gets worse not better, but what the hell can you do?
So if the Hollywood Homo&#39;s want to try and play games with me I say bring it on&#33; They lost this battle the day the government allowed the internet to be connect to new servers outside the original 4 university mainframes. They had no Idea those 4 mainframes would turn into the monster that it is in little more than about 3 to 5 years. Once it crossed international borders before any laws or regulations could be put in place it was too late&#33; it&#39;s like your parents telling you at the age of 17 they don&#39;t want you to try smoking or drinking or have sex until your 18, IT&#39;S A LITTLE TOO LATE NOW POP&#39;S&#33;
They can try as they might but with what, 3 maybe 4 million people online at any given time around the world it&#39;s too late they will never be able to control that many people at any given time or stay one step ahead of them. Kazaa maybe gone tomorrow, but there will be something else better and faster to replace it in a month&#33; And I&#39;m sure even as I write this post, someone has almost finished writing a program to defeat and attack what ever they try to do to us next&#33;



Latter. netwerkjim :P

[geothermal78]

People complaining about something that is free ? Maybe it is time some of you grew up and moved away from your parents place ? Next time you find money on the ground, I want you to complain to your dad that it wasn&#39;t a larger amount of money &#33; It&#39;s pathetic. Wake up &#33;

That said, my isp does not seem to mess with my 256 dsl usage. 90% of the songs and movies and files I look for are available within 2 days of my looking for them. I only search with Winmx and KL. I am sharing 9,545 files and there are now 3.2 million users online this system that works damn well for being free. 690 million files are out there. I&#39;ve downloaded 12 files that had pops and buzzing in them. Everyone of them was easily deleted after I wrote down the size of it, so when I downloaded a different one, I made sure it was a different size. I got two viruses via KL or Winmx and AVG caught both of them. AVG is free also. Sometimes when I have difficulty playing a file, the TFM audio filter is able to clear it up. Most people here have gigs of songs and they are too damn busy searching for shit that they don&#39;t even listen to what free stuff they already got. So then they just keep sharing incomplete files and corrupt files &#33; I also got some files that played upside down. Wow, I used a different player and they played right side up. How hard was that &#33; I also got videos that had no sound. Wow, I used a different player and it sounds fine &#33; Also I got more ram last year and some other players started working a lot better and smoother &#33;

The complaining is actually wasting energy that could be used elsewhere. Wise up &#33;

ciao,

geothermal78

[RealitY]

Originally posted by scribblec@29 June 2003 - 19:01
dont listen to this prick
this is the guy who thinks es5 is good <_<
I think that ES5 is GARBAGE (edit), though the truth is that at the moment I use ES5 on rare occasions to watch its growth. I have stated that I use Shareaza, KaZaa, ES5 (not anymore), NG and others as well. I think ES5 is a SCAM (edit), and once again I still use KaZaa from time to time as stated...

Just sick of KaZaa and where it is going. Maybe read through my original statement on this post. Although it has been my "babe" for some time, and now is just the "old lady" that I f**k from time to time.

[randyleepublic]

THE FILE SHARING MANIFESTO

So now the music industry greedheads want to play rough. What’s the matter, their coke dealer won’t front anymore? Those techno-ghouls have been living high on the hog for the past 100 years and now they’re upset because the river of gold is down 10%. If they want to play rough, so can we. The only reason they can afford to pay their lawyers is because we all still buy CDs.

There is only one proper response to the file sharing attack – a complete and total boycott of all new recorded music purchases. Imagine if you got a summons in the mail. We must support our file sharing brothers and sisters. I SAY NO PURCHASES OF ANY NEW CDS OR DOWNLOADS UNTIL THEY CHANGE THE LAW ON FILE SHARING&#33;&#33; If you want music go to a show, or buy or trade used CDs.

Copy this and spread the word&#33;

To those who are concerned about artist&#39;s royalties, you&#39;ve been brainwashed. Music is a performing art - the key word here is performing. If artists want to get paid, they need to perform. Not live like ghouls on the ghosts of old echos.

Consider the artists who have been most commercially successful on recordings. They have almost all been destroyed by that success. On the other hand an old dope fiend like Jerry Garcia survived for years despite his self destructive ways, largely, IMHO, because his recordings were not money makers and he had to tour.

Besides the whole industry is only the result of a technical glitch where it was easy to record, but difficult to copy. Those days are over. They all need to accept the new paradigm or fade away.

[I'm_going_slightly_mad]

Originally posted by randyleepublic@3 August 2003 - 21:52
THE FILE SHARING MANIFESTO

So now the music industry greedheads want to play rough. What’s the matter, their coke dealer won’t front anymore? Those techno-ghouls have been living high on the hog for the past 100 years and now they’re upset because the river of gold is down 10%. If they want to play rough, so can we. The only reason they can afford to pay their lawyers is because we all still buy CDs.

There is only one proper response to the file sharing attack – a complete and total boycott of all new recorded music purchases. Imagine if you got a summons in the mail. We must support our file sharing brothers and sisters. I SAY NO PURCHASES OF ANY NEW CDS OR DOWNLOADS UNTIL THEY CHANGE THE LAW ON FILE SHARING&#33;&#33; If you want music go to a show, or buy or trade used CDs.

Copy this and spread the word&#33;

To those who are concerned about artist&#39;s royalties, you&#39;ve been brainwashed. Music is a performing art - the key word here is performing. If artists want to get paid, they need to perform. Not live like ghouls on the ghosts of old echos.

Consider the artists who have been most commercially successful on recordings. They have almost all been destroyed by that success. On the other hand an old dope fiend like Jerry Garcia survived for years despite his self destructive ways, largely, IMHO, because his recordings were not money makers and he had to tour.

Besides the whole industry is only the result of a technical glitch where it was easy to record, but difficult to copy. Those days are over. They all need to accept the new paradigm or fade away.
Jesus Christ&#33; :rtfm: You don&#39;t need to spam the forum to get a message across&#33;

Argh&#33; :pirate:

[ATM]

Try Usenet out...you get up to date shit (downside = files get purged weekly). Also you download on an avg of 700 KBPS off of a decent DSL connection.

Oh yeah, btw... I thought the RIAA gets people&#39;s names from the ISP companies, not ips. Fill me in if im wrong.

-ATM

[jetje]

In one thing Reality is right, i think speeds on Kazaa aren&#39;t as good as they once were. You nowadays have to wait for week(s) before some are finished where you could do those in one day before. Btw can anyone tell me how in earth it is possible to give away ul speeds of 0,5k???? Even if i lower my ul the lowest i can give is 3k...??? :blink: I think it is because of many people get afraid of all the RIAA fuz. They go the easy way and start leeching... I agree on the more sources or remotely qued issue. What i can&#39;t stand is my ul slots are filled with three users giving away >50k while the 3 dl i have don&#39;t run at all (or the famous 0,5k) <_<
Checking users or pming them to share gives no result. This get&#39;s to a point where you say enough is enough. I can use my bandwith in a better way. So should i try keep my dl running, my upload set to 1 only and limit the ul speed...? Guess i&#39;m not the 1st and not the last to do this..
I&#39;m not asking to get the great dl speeds back i&#39;d had when i started with kazaa when i got a 1k ul gives 10k dl situation, i&#39;m already glad when i get my ul/dl in a 1:1 situation..

So help me stay on Kazaa.. Just by sharing files and don&#39;t cap ul speeds&#33;
We&#39;ll be fine then... :)

[Explosive]

Originally posted by downloader2008@30 May 2003 - 21:58
1) i know what you mean&#33; no one is sharing anymore&#33; almost every verified download i wanna download "needs more sources"
2) its too bad.... fasttrack network is the best..... the edonkey network makes you wait in queue for hours to get a 5kb/s d/l rate
3) try using the gnutella network, use Bearshare (http://www.bearshare.com) its almost like Kazaa except for the Gnutella network....
No Gnutela network sucks hard. It&#39;s even worse than Fast Track.

Fast Track was the best p2p network, but open your eyes: ed2k is the best. If you can&#39;t wait for your downloads - it&#39;s your problem.

[Robert864]

Originally posted by Tyke@30 May 2003 - 23:04
this is by no means a personal attackx, but

So you gonna give in? You&#39;re gonna add to the holes where downloadable files used to be. Well done, way to go&#33;

Sure, kazaa will not last forever. In the scheme of things, kazaa, this forum, whatever, will be obsolete. Hopefully iot will have been superceded by another thing to give the RIAA, MPAA etc etc headaches.

But while it&#39;s there, I&#39;ll cointinue to let others have anything I rip, any encode, or just offer another source for a popular file. If I ever get the letter from the legal folks (not the stoopid pop-up message from kazaa) then maybe I&#39;ll consider my stance, but until then, I do what I can to (1) stop myself from ever recieving such a letter and (2) share what I got from the POV of giving back to the network, seeing as I have taken so much.

Every sharer who leaves is sorely missed by all, but just another victory for the big industry associations.

Yeah rock on dude&#33; We are free&#33;

US congress?? who are they, they&#39;ve no juristiction over me&#33;&#33;

Over the years we have paid so much money to the media industries - its their fault for having such high prices.

p.s. Peer gurdian erm... why would I need it? (thats not a trick question).

[Robert864]

Its ok read up about Peer gurdian

Also all this stuff about the authorities tracking people down is complete b*llox.

They have not got a hope in stopping p2p.

[Bobohiotk]

Reality&#39;s point of view is exactly what the folks at RIAA would have predicted. When one engages in a behavior repeatedly and this behavior is not rewarded (i.e., others sharing), then sharing drops out. This is basic human behavior and of no surprise. What maintains sharing is sharing; nothing more and nothing less.

Reality has made some tremendous contributions to this board and anyone advising s(he) to not let the door hit s(he) in the ass on the way out is missing the boat. Reality leaving is a loss, even if not another file is shared. This board is a community. Members contribute in whatever way they can. Why tell someone to go? What benefit is that to the community?

The goal of the RIAA is to disrupt the community by causing individuals to slowly abandon the group. Look at the stats. Very few people have actually been sued. It&#39;s fear and all the other bs that ppl have gone through in order to protect themselves that has turned ppl off. But, it&#39;s the very nature of hanging in there that will keep fasttrack alive..........inspite of all the bs.

Encouraging ppl to leave is not the way to go.

[RealitY]

Point well made and I may agree to stay although the final straw for me is where Sharman intends to take Fast Track in the future, and we are not part of those plans, nor do I care to support the philosopy of Sharman as well...

[Adster]

oh so who was corrrrrrrrect after all??

[blitz]

;) owned

[thewizeard]

Still 2,500,000 on line, so at the moment I would say....Metrostars....

[Sparkle1984]

Originally posted by nigel123@13 April 2004 - 09:12
Still 2,500,000 on line, so at the moment I would say....Metrostars....
I think i saw about 3.4 million last night. :D

[Z-95]

I find nothing wrong with the ed2k network. I have my client set up correctly, and usually I am downloading at over 30kB/s in under 10 minutes&#33; I stopped using Kazaa months ago, when I got fed up with the fakes, renamed files, and viruses. For speed and REAL files: Bittorrent for popular files, ed2k for rare ones&#33; :D

[boyzeee]

I gotta agree with reality, I was an ardent Kazaa user and thought i always would be as long as it was alive, but im sorry to say not anymore, Ive not been using kazaa since before christmas due to no sources, fake and corrupt files. i download mainly software and films and imo whats the point of being the fastest p2p client if the files you download are corrupt? the last straw for me was downloading the enter the matrix pc game, four 600mb bin files - 15+ attempts and a weeks wasted time trying to get good copies and not one of them worked, with emule and its built in ICH feature - 2 days and four perfect bin files, that was all the reason i needed to jump ship. I have not had one fake or corrupt file since and i download shite loads of stuff. The day a new episode of say smallville or 24 is aired its ripped and posted on one of the many link sites and im watching it within four or five hours, with kazaa they take days to appear and then half the time its a renamed fake file :rolleyes: its a shame what has happened to kazaa but i dont really see it getting back to the way it was in the beginning. :(

[tensegg]

@ reality,
I dont understand why you still use and keep going on about peergaurdian, PG doesnt block anything, it only cuts connections that are already made, allowing at least some packets thru to the baddies and only does it with tcp. and uses a shit load of resources to do it :(

Protowall on the otherhand blocks all protocols at driver level, no connection allowed, time to move on there dude ;), and uses little of my precious recources ;)

[Adster]

what 1 year later and peopel didn&#39;t notice??

[RealitY]

Originally posted by tensegg@13 April 2004 - 16:21
time to move on
I did, this was posted a year ago...
:lol: :lol:

EDIT: My Sig From Lats Year When I Posted This.
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/REALITY-KL.jpg

[tensegg]

:frusty: humble pie sho taste good this week :lol: :lol:

I saw the date after I posted it and was gonna edit it, but thought I deserved a bit of a thrashing and left it :frusty: apologies ;)

kinda hoped I would get away with it :(

EDIT: I see that graves still empty tho :P ;) :lol: