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3RA1N1AC
07-13-2003, 06:09 PM
as an american, i'm not intimately familiar with the celebration of Guy Fawkes Day, but i know the story of the gunpowder plot & all that.

just curious as to whether Guy Fawkes is still considered by most brits to be a traitor, or if people are more sympathetic to him now (i.e. the other side of the story being that he wasn't the ringleader but merely had the sh*t luck to be the one caught with the match in his hand). does anyone actually admire him nowadays, seeing as how people have become much less patriotic/loyal than in the old days?

3RA1N1AC
07-13-2003, 06:23 PM
well, i suppose "traitor" isn't exactly the right word, 'cause any way you slice it, he was a traitor. but is he still considered to be a villain for trying to blow up parliament?

Skillian
07-13-2003, 06:25 PM
I don't think anyone trying to blow up government buildings or people could really be considered anything other than a villian, surely?

Proper Bo
07-13-2003, 08:32 PM
People don't actually give a shit about guy fawkes, it's just used as an excuse for fireworks n a good time really, no meaning left in it at all IMO

vivitron 15
07-13-2003, 11:08 PM
i guess he's symbolised as kinda a "good" person....

the only real "automatic" association is to fireworks and beer, so i guess people like him for that; however i think people still don't agree it was a good plan (in general)

lynx
07-13-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Proper Bo, I tell thee@13 July 2003 - 21:32
People don't actually give a shit about guy fawkes, it's just used as an excuse for fireworks n a good time really, no meaning left in it at all IMO
From that point of view, it's a bit like 4 July.

No disrespect intended, merely from the point that we are all friends now, so it is really just a good excuse for a good party.

Mind you, who needs an excuse for a good party ?

:beerchug:

mutterings
07-14-2003, 12:11 AM
Guy fawkes is considered in the same realm as communism....It works in theory was good but doesnt work in practice :lol: :lol: :lol: