So did he deserve it? How deserving is it when even Americans find it controversial? Did he simply win it for "not being Bush"?
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So did he deserve it? How deserving is it when even Americans find it controversial? Did he simply win it for "not being Bush"?
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe...ize/index.html
It's as Mr. Obama himself put it, a prize to stimulate the momentum. As such it's very much deserving, considering the potential for human actions by this administration.
What a complete joke... Nominations in 12 days after he took office... what exactly did he do in 12 days as US President... totally undermines the efforts of previous winners.
no
http://justifiedright.typepad.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnsy
So Obama gets the Nobel Prize for what intends to do? :blink:
It's no secret that you have to be part of that grouping of folks to be in line for the Nobel Prize, and that it's distinguished name has been plummeting for decades but, nominating a man who has been in office for 12 days, for his ideals is silly. None of which has he been able to complete by the way.
Just an interesting thing I heard on the radio today; a list of people who were nominated previously but were passed up: Winston Churchill, Dwight Eisenhower, Harry Truman, Pope John Paul II, Mahatma Gandhi (was nominated seven times)... there were many, but that's all I can remember.
ok, everyone knows that Nobel Prizes have always been a joke... but seriously, this one is just too much.
NO WAY!!!! this is an absolute fraud.
Hell NO.
No! He is not deserving of any sort of prize. The economy is plunging and we are continuing to fight in the middle east. A peace prize for sending more troops to the middle east and also flying around in his private jet using taxpayers money. Maybe he should start worrying about more important things, rather than the summer Olympics in Chicago. His priories are not the same as when he was making all those promises to the country. Same as any other politician. I really never believe anything they say. Most are all hacks. Telling people what they want to hear, but never following through with what they say. I know certain things can't be changed overnight. Some things that the government has neglected are to messed up to fix, it would take a decade or more. He has not made any change to this country, nor will he ever. He is useless and just a celebrity president. This country was so desperate for change, is why he won the election.I stand by my word that he has not keep his. What lame reason did he win this prize for anyway?
Actually pone he is following on his promises just that some people are being a hindrance because they don't want him to succeed.
As regards the peace prize I guess the nobel committee knew what it was doing as its not the first time they've awarded it for the purpose of momentum.
If it was the peace prize in economics or maybe the sciences then I'd be equally disgusted but as for the reasons given,I agree with the committee's decision over the bigger picture.
A podcast on this:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/...1009-1904a.mp3
No! Who is this Obama? Never heard of him till two years ago. There are thousands of people working for peace who never get any recognition.
As pleased as I was that he won the election, I was shocked about the Nobel. I have been disappointed by what I feel has been Obama's lack of follow through, and his failure to walk his talk.
On another note, how've you all been? Long time no see.
fuck no
even black ppls dont like him anymore
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Originally Posted by sez
Do you think political opposition is a new thing? :huh:
there is a difference between opposing and being a hindrance.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizQuote:
Originally Posted by sez
Do you think political opposition is a new thing? :huh:
In order, then:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rart
1. Who cares.
Al Gore has one.
Jimmy Carter has one.
I've seen them on Ebay, I think.
Btw-
Amongst the lot of them, Carter has easily the most stature, truth.
That's saying something.
2. Until all Americans can actually think, it doesn't matter a hill of empty coconuts 'what Americans think'.
No one really gives a shit except those who purport to know or comment, and there are fewer of us every day, so.
3. Well, he won the election for not being Bush, and you don't have to fool any people to win the Nobel, so why not.
I think he should also get a Nobel for Olympics Solicitation, since success is not a requirement.
Anything to rehabilitate a prematurely sagging presidency.
Btw, again-
Didn't you really mean to ask, 'How deserving is it when even liberal Americans find it controversial?'
stalin once was nominated...
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Originally Posted by rationmyrum
See?
Just another Lefty...
For a president that has continued the Iraq War and escalated the one in Afghanistan, no he doesnt deserve it. Stop those wars, get rid of the patriot act, restore habeas corpus and get rid of any overseas torture detentions (he only got rid of Gbay), then maybe he might deserve it.
I think the crowds reaction answers your question. Everybody was booing the decision and I don't think that has ever happened int he history of Nobel prizes before
He didn't deserve it. Peace price, Smeesh prize.
I think you have to do something ridic good to get it, not something as minuscule as what he did.
Tell us Hank. What was this miniscule thing wot he done?
So: undo everything Bush did, and get a free peace prize?Quote:
Originally Posted by nyknicks
When was this accomplished, please?Quote:
Originally Posted by nyknicks
Anyone can be nominated, there's no hinderance. This is perfectly fine unless you're in favour of totalitarian ideas...Quote:
Originally Posted by rationmyrum
On a similar note, George W. Bush was nominated each year of his presidency IIRC.
They were in fact gasping as in beeing surprised. There's a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
Huh...isn't that how you win elections? people want to hear sweet things and be spoonfed with bullshit and lies. If you tell them the truth, you'll never be president. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by pone44
This is your surmise?Quote:
Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuSThey were in fact gasping as in beeing surprised. There's a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
Why should we trust you are correct?
Proofs are required, you see.
...Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4This is your surmise?Quote:
Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
Why should we trust you are correct?
Proofs are required, you see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52b5IHxqHrk
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Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
I heard a few mouse farts, I think.
Oh, yeah, and the guy talking.
No proof there, sorry.
Prove otherwise, now stop beeing ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4Quote:
Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
I heard a few mouse farts, I think.
Oh, yeah, and the guy talking.
No proof there, sorry.
did he deserve it?
that's like saying...are you the fookin genie from aladdin?
you already know the answer is a bloody NO but you are still asking eh?
It's good to know there's only one correct answer to this question and that j2 has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kooltilldend
Wait, no it's not.
so u r saying he actually deserved it?Quote:
Originally Posted by clockerIt's good to know there's only one correct answer to this question and that j2 has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kooltilldend
Wait, no it's not.
Um...no. He's saying that it's good to open this up to interpretation rather than saying "no, he didn't deserve it, topic done." Discussion doesn't do anyone harm...
I don't know...what are the qualifications for nomination?Quote:
Originally Posted by kooltilldendso u r saying he actually deserved it?Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
I don't pretend to know the logic or reasoning behind the award but obviously you do and have found it wanting.
It's a tempest in a teapot, just another excuse for all the Foxdroids to display their twisted knickers.
Of course it goes without saying that I also share the shame and humiliation of having our country's leader awarded an internationally prestigious award.
Agreed.I personally wouldn't pretend to be wiser than the gents sitting on the nobel committee.Perhaps to draw a symmetry to the clamour,its very common for the top management of a corp. to make decisions that in their completeness are for the good of the company only that the wage-earners(whom suprise suprise don't have a sit at board meetings to be privy of the company sikrits)can't see but instead of exerting logic to understand,they resort to civil disobedience(stealing stationery,graffiti,bringing pigs to the office etcetc)Quote:
Originally Posted by clockerI don't know...what are the qualifications for nomination?Quote:
Originally Posted by kooltilldend
I don't pretend to know the logic or reasoning behind the award but obviously you do and have found it wanting.
It's a tempest in a teapot, just another excuse for all the Foxdroids to display their twisted knickers.
Of course it goes without saying that I also share the shame and humiliation of having our country's leader awarded an internationally prestigious award.
well u guys didn't get the gist of my post
i wasn't saying there's no point in this discussion...i was just suggesting how i feel about the issue (i.e. he doesn't deserve it)
the analogy was just me having a dig at this so-called "Nobel Peace Prize"
Oh, this is good for what is generally called a "teaching point":
http://www.pjtv.com/video/Afterburne...xNsoq3-4aaH4rs
Stand by your "dig", sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by kooltilldend
Watch behind you for liberals.
By all means, let's fuck up the discussion with trolling. "When all else fail"?