We're actually not too sure what this is, bagginsperson.
Wasn't she created in God's image anyway?
Must be...it would take some Divine Intervention to keep those puppies upright.
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We're actually not too sure what this is, bagginsperson.
Wasn't she created in God's image anyway?
Must be...it would take some Divine Intervention to keep those puppies upright.
what if god existed ?
i dont believe in god , but what if it does exist ?:dabs:
I love the tag on this thread :happy:
You always have a choice to click on this thread or not. I haven't followed anyone around in different threads, I have posted the gospel in this thread and you clicked on it. You have a right to believe what you want, but so do I. You are welcome to ask any questions regarding to this thread and I would try to answer them to the best of my ability.
That is unlikely to happen though is it? :noes:
A thread in the Lounge is communal property, can anyone think of one that ever stayed on topic? SB has joined FST with the express purpose of posting a religious tract. Usually we boot such posts straight back out for the spam they are. However, as SB has stayed to engage in a bit of banter we have taken him to our hearts - well spleen - but it is close enough. :shifty:
It won't stay on topic but does that really matter?
Fucker keeps bumping it, this shitty thread, every time it drops out of sight, despite people asking him to GTFO. That's some kind of trolling and no mistake.
if the society of hell is made of scientists and rational people, AKA people who don't believe in god, then I wish my soul to burn in there
juz do good deeds will do, doesn't matter wats ur religion
Completely agree there, clockster.
Wtf are cripples doing crossing roads anyway - shouldn't they be in mental hospitals or something else. They shouldn't expect help in any case, their predicament is god's punishment for their evil-doings in a previous life.
Can't do the time, don't do the crime, I say :smilie4:
Shouldn't you be keeping the planets in order or something?
i wonder how Xenu's heaven looks like
I dont get that. Why did he die for your sins? If God wanted to forgive you your sins he would have without having to get his son killed in the process, isnt God all merciful? It just doesnt make sense to me why Jesus had to die to get the sins of mankind forgiven, and if the sins of mankind are forgiven then why do any good deeds, lets go on a crime spree.Quote:
Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx
Sorry for bumping this thread guys.
God is all merciful, but God is also a Holy and just God. Justice MUST be served when someone commits a crime against God. Since we are all sinners, we are criminals in God's eyes. Just as the president can give you a pardon, Jesus can give you a pardon for your sins, because He took your punshment for YOURS and MY sins when He died on the cross because He lived a perfect life, then died in our place.
now, if jesus gave me his pardon for my sins by putting himself in the cross and died for my sins and everyone else 's sins.
so what's the use of making good deeds .
and if god as you described is just , why he tortured his son to death on the cross. why he left him killed .
another thing , jesus -by sacrifice himself on the cross - gave all human kind forgiveness for their sins so if i don't believe in him - of course this is a sin , in Christianity point of view -i'm been forgiven so what the use in blieving in him any way.
either way i'm of the hock and i'm going to heaven :)
what were the sin and punishments that followed frodo ?
can you explain that ?
so when jesus died on cross those "sins" are forgiven ?
according to frodo and bible these sins are kinda inherited . . that is really lame
According to Genesis, God accepted their apology only partially and an eternal punishment was meted out to them, prescribed as follows:
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To the woman he said, ‘I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you.’ To Adam he said, ‘Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat of it,’ ‘Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it were you taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.’ (Genesis 3:16–19)
If Jesus Christ atoned for the sins of the sinful human beings, was the punishment prescribed for the Sin abolished after the Crucifixion? Did those who believed in Jesus Christ as the ‘Son of God’, if they were women, cease to have painful childbirth? Did the believing men start earning their livelihood without exerting manual labour? Did the propensity to sin cease to pass on to the future generations and innocent children started being given birth to? If the answer to all of these questions were to be ‘yes,’ then of course there would be some justification in seriously contemplating the Christian philosophy of Sin and Atonement.But Alas, the answer to all these questions are no, no and no. If nothing seems to have changed since the Crucifixion, both in the Christian and non-Christian worlds, then what would be the meaning of Atonement?
but frodo , you version of sin and atonement doesnt make any sense
The are forgiven, but their bodies are still under the curse of sin. When Christ returns to the earth, the curse on their physical bodies will be lifted and they will be given new bodies that will last forever. I am going by what the bible says. Christians have two natures warring one with another, unsaved folks only have 1 nature. That's why Christians still sin until they die, yet they desire not to sin and to be perfect and to do what God wants.
Ro 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? {the body...: or, this body of death} I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
I think the question I should've asked frodo is:
Why does God need a son? Isnt God immortal? A King only needs a son if he's going to perish, so his son can carry on his name, otherwise the son would be a hindrance.
Also if Jesus was God's son wouldn't people argue that the things he preached were easy for him to do because he was god's son, and they would be difficult for normal humans to follow. Things like forgive someone for cutting off your arm, show him love and that will change him. Its easy for god to forgive because he's all merciful and benevolent, but thats not human nature.
Edit: forgot to say. whats up with this flesh of sin and all that? I dont get it one bit. :dabs:
lol...love the tags. xenu vs jesus. rofl. who comes up with this stuff!!!
Frodo, Jeebus came to me last night in a dream.
He said, 'you are the chalice of god'.
I said, 'Well, obviousment, is that all you came here to tell me'?
'Non', he said (for God is French, bummer, I know), I want you to tell that Frodo Baggins to stfu, asap, anon, immediately like'.
Frodo, stfu by divine intervention for the love of Christ.
And so it was written.
Amen.