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Those genes affect our entire personality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
The looks thing I think you're trying to twist what I'm saying.
There's a balance of male/female genes in everyone, obviously everyone has a different balance.
I'm sorry,I can't explain it any simpler than that :)
@Cheese ..... It was a joke :rolleyes: and it's not a direct quote :P
Jonno :cool:
So there are 3 genes for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
HET, HOMO, and BI genes?
or maybe it's a chemical build-up...too much (or not enough) is HET, not enough (or too little) is HOMO, and just the right amount is BI?
all depends on which genes and/or hormones. There are many and each has a different "task"Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
But then if you want to discuss biological developement i am afraid we have to enter the realms of....... i almost hate to say it .....................................................................................................
science :whistling
Yet this imbalance is not shown to cause homosexuality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
I don't understand what you are dribbling about,
Male gene
Female Gene
Say man to be 100% hetrosexual has to have 75% male genes.
A man with 50% would be bi
A man with 30% would be gay
A man with 20% would be a transexual
And don't be quoting me on this saying it's crap, I made it up it's not scientific, it's a loose example of what I'm talking about :)
Jonno :cool:
and that can't explain all realms of........................i almost hate to say it ..................................................................................Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
psychology :whistling
Thayat manes a janeyus!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
There will probably be some murders too.
No, the psycological part is the decider, most gay people will struggle in some form with confusion etc, but what causes that confusion is caused at birth, it's in them right from the start.
Many people will live a lie, pretending to be straight when they are actually gay.
People who thought or were convinced by someone they were gay and living that life who have since discovered they are not.
Your sexual preference is set at birth.
Jonno :cool:
but you asked about the human body and the genes that create physical attributes not the mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
you seem confused, should i type slower for you?
http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/.../biobasis.htmlQuote:
In 1992, Bailey and Pillard followed-up their experiment on homosexual men by studying identical twin, fraternal twin, and nongenetically related adopted sisters. As expected, their results mirrored those found in their gay brother study. Whereas only six percent of adopted sisters were both lesbian, sixteen percent of fraternal twin sisters and forty-eight percent of identical twin sisters were both lesbian (Burr, Separate 35). Clearly, the basis for a similar argument for predetermined homosexuality in women has been laid.
So we find that the stronger the genetic relationship between twins, the higher the likelihood, that if one is gay, the other will be as well.
If the twins are not related (adoption) the presence of a gay twin means nothing above society's baseline incidence.
This proves that there is a genetic basis. And it also proves that it is not "environmental" as the non-genetic twins would have an equal incidence of homosexuality as the genetic twins.
But if the twins are identical, why aren't they always of the same sexual orientation.
I think that this can be explained by saying that they have the genetic potential to become gay, but a some time during gestation this potential needs to be activated. This, I think boils down to percentages/random chance.
There are many conditions which exhibit this phenomenon. It is called "penetrance". Huntingtons chorea is a neurological disorder with 100% penetrance. That means if you have the gene you WILL ALWAYS get the disease. A disease with less penetrance is Neurofibromatosis. If you have the gene, sometimes you get the disease, sometimes you don't.
This is offered just to clearly state that a genetic basis for homosexuality is there. The data is right there. They have figured out that you get it from your Mother on her "x" chromosome. The exact mechanism can be worked out by beaker boys who care about that kind of stuff.
Whether people want to call it a disease or not is up to them.