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I've always felt that if the users value a site enough, they'll never have to offer gigs for money, or beg for donations every month. moonspell13 mentioned oink, that's a perfect example. the site has operated fine for years without asking for money from anyone. if you've got to bribe the users to donate by offering gigs for money, then you should probably think twice about running the site, and the users' level of dedication to it.
If the site really needs the site to improve on something major (servers, etc.) then it might be ok to allow Pay to Leech for a while. Sites especially have to observe how the pay-to-leech-ing is affecting their tracker. If people are constantly hitting and running, not seeding, etc. because they purchased extra gigs, then obviously that site's community isn't mature enough to handle PTL. However, if the community still seeds well, doesn't HnR, and the extra money is absolutely necessary, then it wouldn't be too fair to condemn the site for having PTL. If the site is desperate for money to pay off monthly server bills, if the staff are dishing out their personal money endlessly to cover costs, if the site is going to be pulled because of monetary insufficiencies, and PTL is the only way to solve the situation, then by all means, go for it.
I have never hated bitmetv for having that option for users to increase their upload data by donating to the site. I guess its more irritating to me when sites bombard you with these pm's every week urging you to donate. Dont get me wrong. I believe donations are very much necessary to keep some of our favorite trackers afloat.
But as some of you have mentioned, those tracker owners that enjoy monetary benefits from running their sites and do not use it to improve its overall service should be condemned.
Oh gosh, you mean like RTT hitting everyone up on the "doubling up" and "lottery" thing? That's incredibly annoying.Quote:
I guess its more irritating to me when sites bombard you with these pm's every week urging you to donate.
rtt, bitsoup, ILT to name a few. I still remember bitsoup offering a motor bike for their lottery once.
I've always looked at the sites' option to buy upload credit as a helping hand to those that either don't have the necessary upload stream to cope with their download needs or ,due to various reasons, they can't leave their PCs on long enough to reach 1:1. There are still many countries that only have 2 or 3 major ISPs that offer, all of them, crap upload speeds. Users from those countries shouldn't be punished for smth that it's not in their power to change.
If donations are constantly higher than the hosting servers' bills, the excess can be used to pay for seedboxes, which all users would benefit from.
And if site owners occasionally buy a six pack with donation money, what the hell, I guess it's OK, as long as it's not too often and the six pack stays a six pack and not a sixty pack. After all, it's their time they're spending, and nothing is free, right?
I dont see anything wrong with a little reward for donating. You scratch thier back they scratch yours (oooh that feels good), but when thats what they are all about like RevTT, Bitsoup and a few others that just spam the donation ads in your face that is when it gets annoying. When The speeds suffer because of nobody seeding back (bitsoup) that is annoying. I am for pay2leech but I dont think you should be given large amounts of upload credit for donating.
it's already been said a few time, by other members. cash 4 vip no,cash 4 gb's yes
I believe it is fine if there are limits on the amount that can be purchased.
if it is for the better of the site, ok..although i don't like it at all.
but how can we know if money go for that purpose? by saying that the site needs 200$ per month or whatever, doesn't prove anything. and we never
know the exact amount of the money donated.
and i don't like vip status or gbs as a reward, i disagree with that.