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I don't question his motives as they are pretty clear.He has some score to settle and this is a conveniently gutlessly anonymous way to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stan
Btw last time I checked in your continuing efforts to sate your thirst to steal,I mean "share", morality really isn't some you can non-hypocritically accuse any other person of lacking. :mellow:
Anyway sincerely fuck off or better yet fuck off.
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Originally Posted by ralphonzoQuestioning one's motives is the weakest thing you can do in an argument.
Avoiding answering pertinent questions is nearly as bad, so let me ask you again, from my previous posts:
Do you have an interest in this information not being public?
What problem do you have with me posting this information?
Why should it be forgotten if the man in charge is the very same and that man never sought redemption when exposed last time, instead banning anyone who mentioned the scandal while blaming it all on someone else?
And one more: If you can't answer these simple questions, why do you continue to reply to my thread?
Attach my name so I can be banned? Unless you or stan would like to suggest I've fabricated all this information, it really doesn't matter what either of you think of me--it's irrelevant. The information is what matters, and if you like it or not, more people now have access to it and I applaud the mods for allowing it to be posted here.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Coward.
Hypocritical, spineless, coward.
You hide behind an alias and continue to be party to a "corrupt" administration.
Either stand up for your convictions and leave- then shout the "truth" from every rooftop, but DO NOT continue to benefit from this "corruption" and piss on it at the same time.
Stealing property or money is not the same as stealing information. No one is deprived of data when data is stolen, assuming that the data is not destroyed in its original location.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787I don't question his motives as they are pretty clear.He has some score to settle and this is a conveniently gutlessly anonymous way to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stan
Btw last time I checked in your continuing efforts to sate your thirst to steal,I mean "share", morality really isn't some you can non-hypocritically accuse any other person of lacking. :mellow:
Anyway sincerely fuck off or better yet fuck off.
Stealing copyrighted information for your own personal use is not the same as selling stolen copyrighted information for profit, eg. selling bootleg DVDs. Making a living off donations that are said to be strictly for the upkeep of the server that allows file-sharing is similarly unscrupulous.
I'm glad I could help clear up these issues of "morality" for you. As I said before, continue with the predictable ad hominem attacks, by all means.
Oh good, just what this thread was missing: comically dramatic righteous indignation!Quote:
Originally Posted by megabytemeQuote:
Originally Posted by ralphonzo
Coward.
Hypocritical, spineless, coward.
You hide behind an alias and continue to be party to a "corrupt" administration.
Either stand up for your convictions and leave- then shout the "truth" from every rooftop, but DO NOT continue to benefit from this "corruption" and piss on it at the same time.
Have I breached the Omerta? Is that more important than the free sharing of information?
Thanks for the inaccurate and entirely bias Law lesson:mellow: but you didn't clear up anything about your motives or the part about you being gutless.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphonzoStealing property or money is not the same as stealing information. No one is deprived of data when data is stolen, assuming that the data is not destroyed in its original location.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Stealing copyrighted information for your own personal use is not the same as selling stolen copyrighted information for profit, eg. selling bootleg DVDs. Making a living off donations that are said to be strictly for the upkeep of the server that allows file-sharing is similarly unscrupulous.
I'm glad I could help clear up these issues of "morality" for you. As I said before, continue with the predictable ad hominem attacks, by all means.
It's not a legal lesson and I have made no mention whatsoever of law. The law is not always what is moral. They're not synonymous and I gave no lesson on the law.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787Thanks for the inaccurate and entirely bias Law lesson:mellow: but you didn't clear up anything about your motives or the part about you being gutless.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphonzo
I stated my motive in my first reply to this thread:
I posted it because I realized it was no longer common information and I feel it should be given that nothing has changed since then. Do you understand yet? The suggestion is I must have other motives, which is as pathetic an attempt to discredit someone as can possibly be made.Quote:
I found the archive when sorting through an old harddrive and felt it would be a shame if this was no longer common information. It's still relevant because stoi is still supporting his family off it while his slave staff does all the work for practically nothing in return.
It's also amusing, this idea that I should expose myself for banning. Somehow it works against my credibility that I am still a member of the site. I wonder what all of you would be saying if I stated in the topic that I had been banned? Then am I only posting out of bitterness? You can attempt to assassinate my character either way, and I have no doubt the intellectual weaklings who have posted in this thread thus far would have done so if I stated I had been banned.
But once again, I fail to see what my credibility has to do with anything as you all continue to obfuscate. What matters is the credibility of the logs I posted and no one seems to be questioning them.
Edit: Anyway, I thank you all for giving this thread some momentum. It will surely attract more readers with a series of heated replies in tow. The original post can stand on its own without further input from me.
Please work on your debate skills and consider actually engaging next time rather than simply insulting the opposition while you avoid all of his pertinent questions--it makes you look weak.
I'm smarter than you because I don't regard myself as being smarter you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphonzoIt's not a legal lesson and I have made no mention whatsoever of law. The law is not always what is moral. They're not synonymous and I gave no lesson on the law.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
I stated my motive in my first reply to this thread:
I posted it because I realized it was no longer common information and I feel it should be given that nothing has changed since then. Do you understand yet? The suggestion is I must have other motives, which is as pathetic an attempt to discredit someone as can possibly be made.Quote:
I found the archive when sorting through an old harddrive and felt it would be a shame if this was no longer common information. It's still relevant because stoi is still supporting his family off it while his slave staff does all the work for practically nothing in return.
It's also amusing, this idea that I should expose myself for banning. Somehow it works against my credibility that I am still a member of the site. I wonder what all of you would be saying if I stated in the topic that I had been banned? Then am I only posting out of bitterness? You can attempt to assassinate my character either way, and I have no doubt the intellectual weaklings who have posted in this thread thus far would have done so if I stated I had been banned.
But once again, I fail to see what my credibility has to do with anything as you all continue to obfuscate. What matters is the credibility of the logs I posted and no one seems to be questioning them.
Also you did try to give a legal argument since you included the concept of ownership. Ownership isn't a moral issue.:mellow:
Anyway oh immensely intelligent one,the question still remains why now?
Btwdumb peopleintellectual weaklings like myself aren't buying the hard drive failure story for a moment as it's a little too convenient and seriously countries that have been at war haven't held grudges that long.
You also seem to think that a smattering of eloquence somehow substitutes for fact which sort of makes you an idiot,intelligent or not.
PS Putz.
PPS I can't look weak becasue I can benchpress 400lbs.:mellow:
One should have the right to face their accusers. Your sudden need for this "scandal" to be remembered brings about questions of your motives. So far, this wreaks of vindictiveness. You pretend to stand for justice, but give NO indication you are any better. Credibility matters- being accused of a crime by someone of unscrupulous character packs significantly less weight than the same charge being carried by someone with a history of doing right AND one who is willing to face consequences for his actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphonzo
You bring up half-decade old news without showing your face, establishing credibility, or showing the least bit of conviction. You are a pure coward calling someone who has benefited you for years a thief.
Is stoi gonna comment here ?
So what you are saying is that this fella stop has set up a site, asked for donations and made a profit? OpportunityLad.