Seth McFarlane Is A Fucking Genius!!!!

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Originally Posted by JPaul

Using your argument The Sun is a work of genius, it works so they keep doing it. Oh and they don't have to try very hard to write it.

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I was being sarcatsick, the writers on Family Guy are pretty average imo their only nod to genius (in any sense of the word) is that they figured out how to stretch a three-joke show for four seasons. My Kevin Smith reference at the end should have tipped y'all off to that. :snooty:

Took me a while to figure out you meant the newspaper.:(

the simpsons seems to be taking off family guy this season, with the references and stuff. and the jokes that make you go "eesh" like "let's win this war so we can slowly give black people their rights" :dabs:

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Originally Posted by GepperRankins

and the jokes that make you go "eesh" like "let's win this war so we can slowly give black people their rights" :dabs:

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Sealab 2021 does those type of jokes much better. In fact, with all this celebration of the mediocrity of Seth MacFarlane I had forgotten about the truly great cartoons:

Sealab 2021
Aqua Teen Hunger Force
Monkey Dust

you watched bromwell high yet? :01:

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mulder

you watched bromwell high yet? :01:

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UKNova only has 3 seeds on a 3gb file:(

I'll try emule when I've finished downloading teh wrestling.

'k, its worth it :01:

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Originally Posted by Cheese

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Originally Posted by GepperRankins

and the jokes that make you go "eesh" like "let's win this war so we can slowly give black people their rights" :dabs:

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Sealab 2021 does those type of jokes much better. In fact, with all this celebration of the mediocrity of Seth MacFarlane I had forgotten about the truly great cartoons:

Sealab 2021
Aqua Teen Hunger Force
Monkey Dust

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ATHF :01:

Thats just a classic that should be on everyones favorite list.

2021, ehh good show just to watch same with Home Movies.

I never seen Monkey Dust, but now i'll check it out.

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Originally Posted by asmithz

I never seen Monkey Dust, but now i'll check it out.

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It's very British. So if I can borrow some of Busyman's condensation you might not "get any of the references actually". ;)

i think the US has had the peadophile hysteria in the last few years too though, and the terrorism :dabs:

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Originally Posted by JPaul

Yeah but you think poetry is not pish, so your opinion re what constitutes genius is about as valid as an American's.

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Oh good, my education continues.
Why just last week I learned from you that as an American I don't understand sarcasm either.

And all this time I thought I was a sarcastic genius.


Oops, gotta go- Macdonald's just opened.

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Originally Posted by GepperRankins

i think the US has had the peadophile hysteria in the last few years too though, and the terrorism :dabs:

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Though I reckon certain 'merkins (not naming any names, Busyman) might have trouble with the accents...

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by JPaul

Yeah but you think poetry is not pish, so your opinion re what constitutes genius is about as valid as an American's.

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Oh good, my education continues.
Why just last week I learned from you that as an American I don't understand sarcasm either.

And all this time I thought I was a sarcastic genius.


Oops, gotta go- Macdonald's just opened.

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by Cheese

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Originally Posted by asmithz

I never seen Monkey Dust, but now i'll check it out.

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It's very British. So if I can borrow some of Busyman's condensation you might not "get any of the references actually". ;)

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Actually I wasn't being condensationalist.

I was serious. Unless a person is off the age to have seen the show referenced or watched older American TV, you won't get many of the jokes.
Pretty simple.

You guys emit those "you don't get it 'cause it's subtle and you're American" condensation vapors. What I said was rather concrete. There's a fella in my crew from Trinindad that came over here rather "late" and he doesn't get some of the jokes either.

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Originally Posted by JPaul

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Originally Posted by Busyman

PWN3D.

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

The World need more people like you, it really does.

It makes the rest of us feel all warm and cuddly inside.

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"Laugh it off, Fuzzball."

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by Cheese

It's very British. So if I can borrow some of Busyman's condensation you might not "get any of the references actually". ;)

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Actually I wasn't being condensationalist.

I was serious. Unless a person is off the age to have seen the show referenced or watched older American TV, you won't get many of the jokes.
Pretty simple.

You guys emit those "you don't get it 'cause it's subtle and you're American" condensation vapors. What I said was rather concrete. There's a fella in my crew from Trinindad that came over here rather "late" and he doesn't get some of the jokes either.

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I'm having trouble working out which of the errors are intentional.

condensationalist - intentional.
Unless a person is off the age - unintentional.
You guys emit those - unintentional.
condensation vapors - intentional.
Trinindad - unintentional.

How did I do :)

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by JPaul

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The World need more people like you, it really does.

It makes the rest of us feel all warm and cuddly inside.

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"Laugh it off, Fuzzball."

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:lol:

You made me chortle in real life. Good man.

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by JPaul

Yeah but you think poetry is not pish, so your opinion re what constitutes genius is about as valid as an American's.

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Oh good, my education continues.
Why just last week I learned from you that as an American I don't understand sarcasm either.

And all this time I thought I was a sarcastic genius.


Oops, gotta go- Macdonald's just opened.

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No I think you'll find that Americans understand sarcasm, it's satire you don't understand. Please to be reading earlier post, more slowly this time.

Oh that's it, you thought they were synonymous, which kind of illustrates the point. Thanks for that

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by Cheese

It's very British. So if I can borrow some of Busyman's condensation you might not "get any of the references actually". ;)

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I was serious. Unless a person is off the age to have seen the show referenced or watched older American TV, you won't get many of the jokes.

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Which is why it will never be considered a work of genius, a mark of genius would be to be accessible to all. Sure, they'll be the fanboy minority that praise it above all else, but a work of genius? I think you have very low standards on that point.

Though it is stale, Matt Groening's Simpsons is streets ahead when you consider each cartoon as a whole. People will still be watching old Simpsons episodes in ten years time whereas Family Guy will be all but forgotten except for when referenced as a "joke" by lazy writers on some future show that relies on pop culture to get a laugh.*


*Kevin Smith already did this on his superior Clerks** cartoon and none of you cnuts got my reference.

**Another show that suffers from an overabundance of pop culture references, but at least they are cleverly done.

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Originally Posted by football

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Actually I wasn't being condensationalist.

I was serious. Unless a person is off the age to have seen the show referenced or watched older American TV, you won't get many of the jokes.
Pretty simple.

You guys emit those "you don't get it 'cause it's subtle and you're American" condensation vapors. What I said was rather concrete. There's a fella in my crew from Trinindad that came over here rather "late" and he doesn't get some of the jokes either.

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I'm having trouble working out which of the errors are intentional.

condensationalist - intentional.
Unless a person is off the age - unintentional.
You guys emit those - unintentional.
condensation vapors - intentional.
Trinindad - unintentional.

How did I do :)

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Very good excerpt for one.

By the focus on spelling errors I'm guessing you are soccer and not NFL.

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Originally Posted by Cheese

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I was serious. Unless a person is off the age to have seen the show referenced or watched older American TV, you won't get many of the jokes.

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Which is why it will never be considered a work of genius, a mark of genius would be to be accessible to all. Sure, they'll be the fanboy minority that praise it above all else, but a work of genius? I think you have very low standards on that point.

Though it is stale, Matt Groening's Simpsons is streets ahead when you consider each cartoon as a whole. People will still be watching old Simpsons episodes in ten years time whereas Family Guy will be all but forgotten except for when referenced as a "joke" by lazy writers on some future show that relies on pop culture to get a laugh.*


*Kevin Smith already did this on his superior Clerks** cartoon and none of you cnuts got my reference.

**Another show that suffers from an overabundance of pop culture references, but at least they are cleverly done.

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Cool, so basically I can't consider him a genius unless you do.

Very good.

You spotted my deliberate mistake.

Not soccer, not NFL - Kabaddi.

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Originally Posted by football

You spotted my deliberate mistake.

Not soccer, not NFL - Kabaddi.

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Tig.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by Cheese

Which is why it will never be considered a work of genius, a mark of genius would be to be accessible to all. Sure, they'll be the fanboy minority that praise it above all else, but a work of genius? I think you have very low standards on that point.

Though it is stale, Matt Groening's Simpsons is streets ahead when you consider each cartoon as a whole. People will still be watching old Simpsons episodes in ten years time whereas Family Guy will be all but forgotten except for when referenced as a "joke" by lazy writers on some future show that relies on pop culture to get a laugh.*


*Kevin Smith already did this on his superior Clerks** cartoon and none of you cnuts got my reference.

**Another show that suffers from an overabundance of pop culture references, but at least they are cleverly done.

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Cool, so basically I can't consider him a genius unless you do.

Very good.

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You can, you can consider him the bastard child of William Shakespeare and Oscar Wilde if you really want. I'm just pointing out how wrong you are in my opinion, and how time will likely prove me correct.

You do understand the concept of 'opinions'? I don't really want to pepper my posts with "imo"s just for the hard of "getting it".

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Originally Posted by Cheese

for the hard of "getting it".

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:lol: :schnauz:

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Originally Posted by JPaul

No I think you'll find that Americans understand sarcasm, it's satire you don't understand. Please to be reading earlier post, more slowly this time.

Oh that's it, you thought they were synonymous, which kind of illustrates the point. Thanks for that

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You're quite welcome.
Were it not for gratuitous whiffleballs you'd never get to swing.

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by JPaul

No I think you'll find that Americans understand sarcasm, it's satire you don't understand. Please to be reading earlier post, more slowly this time.

Oh that's it, you thought they were synonymous, which kind of illustrates the point. Thanks for that

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You're quite welcome.
Were it not for gratuitous whiffleballs you'd never get to swing.

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Nope, not a clue.

I'll bet Busy gets it.

Ironical, that.

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Originally Posted by clocker

I'll bet Busy gets it.

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Indeed, Busy and your good self get the same cultural references. Busy and I do not

The irony is far from lost on me.

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Originally Posted by JPaul

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Originally Posted by clocker

Oh good, my education continues.
Why just last week I learned from you that as an American I don't understand sarcasm either.

And all this time I thought I was a sarcastic genius.


Oops, gotta go- Macdonald's just opened.

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No I think you'll find that Americans understand sarcasm, it's satire you don't understand.

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Yeah it's only peppered throughout most of our comedy. :dabs:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by JPaul

No I think you'll find that Americans understand sarcasm, it's satire you don't understand.

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Yeah it's only peppered throughout most of our comedy. :dabs:

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You said that the last time as well.

You must actually believe it.:lol:

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Originally Posted by JPaul

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Yeah it's only peppered throughout most of our comedy. :dabs:

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You said that the last time as well.

You must actually believe it.:lol:

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Uh huh. :1eye:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by JPaul

You said that the last time as well.

You must actually believe it.:lol:

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Uh huh. :1eye:

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How sweet, your carers must be so proud.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by hobbes

Why would I consider him a genius? When I said that I don't " watch the show" was that too vague, at all?

I've never watched the show.

What a ridiculous statement, I was talking about the principles of comedy.

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Here's a start.....Osama

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PMSL:lol:

The humor lies in a common denominator amongst all humans.

It is not like Osama gets hit in the face by a pie and we call that "genius" because we hate that guy, but it portrays Osama as someone we can all relate to. His agenda differs from ours, but in the end, he exibits the same human emotions/reactions that we all would.

He is not some absolute evil, but a man trying to sell his wares. His "homies" delete his bloopers and out-takes and broadcast the editted image he wants to portray.

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Originally Posted by hobbes

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Here's a start.....Osama

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PMSL:lol:

The humor lies in a common denominator amongst all humans.

It is not like Osama gets hit in the face by a pie and we call that "genius" because we hate that guy, but it portrays Osama as someone we can all relate to. His agenda differs from ours, but in the end, he exibits the same human emotions/reactions that we all would.

He is not some absolute evil, but a man trying to sell his wares. His "homies" delete his bloopers and out-takes and broadcast the editted image he wants to portray.

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Damn...well said. :huh: You should write movie/TV show reviews.;)

Seth has stuff like

At school the hall monitor is ED 209 from Robocop.

PRESENT HALL PASS

Here ya go.

PRESENT HALL PASS

But I did

...you know what happens next...provided you saw Robocop.

Seth presents this stuff in way that the show isn't focused on the references but presents in a passing-as-matter-of-fact way that just goes along with the show.

People come to work talking about the show whereas a show like The Simpsons is not mentioned.

Other shows like American Dad (a Mcfarlane show as well), Boondocks (from the comic strip) and Drawn Together are pretty good as well.

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Originally Posted by hobbes

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Here's a start.....Osama

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PMSL:lol:

The humor lies in a common denominator amongst all humans.

It is not like Osama gets hit in the face by a pie and we call that "genius" because we hate that guy, but it portrays Osama as someone we can all relate to. His agenda differs from ours, but in the end, he exibits the same human emotions/reactions that we all would.

He is not some absolute evil, but a man trying to sell his wares. His "homies" delete his bloopers and out-takes and broadcast the editted image he wants to portray.

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Shame they stole the whole joke and concept off Monkey Dust really.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/imagedump/4864.jpg

Seth MacFarlane seems to borrow (by that I mean steal) quite a bit. Genius.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../plagrismo.jpg

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Other shows like American Dad (a Mcfarlane show as well)

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...PLAGRISM02.jpg

It's MacFarlane, genius.

But seriously:

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Seth presents this stuff in way that the show isn't focused on the references but presents in a passing-as-matter-of-fact way that just goes along with the show.

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I disagree. I reckon it has taken over the show, and there are about a dozen pop culture references per show. I see it as filler for the proper jokes, it must be hard to fill 20 minutes after all.

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People come to work talking about the show whereas a show like The Simpsons is not mentioned.

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Is this the way we detect the quality of our TV shows now? At my work everyone talks about X-Factor and Strictly Come Dancing.

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Boondocks (from the comic strip) .... pretty good as well.

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I can agree on that. So that's something.

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Originally Posted by Cheese

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Originally Posted by Busy

People come to work talking about the show whereas a show like The Simpsons is not mentioned.

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Is this the way we detect the quality of our TV shows now? At my work everyone talks about X-Factor and Strictly Come Dancing.

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At my office, I'm the only bloke here and the TV conversation is always about Eastenders, The Bill and Emmerdale Farm.

So Busy is right :dabs:

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Originally Posted by Cheese

Is this the way we detect the quality of our TV shows now? At my work everyone talks about X-Factor and Strictly Come Dancing.

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At my office, I'm the only bloke here and the TV conversation is always about Eastenders, The Bill and Emmerdale Farm.

So Busy is right :dabs:

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My best mate doesn't like Family Guy and he has seen Robocop.

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Dave Cheese says:
you like family guy?
Al says:
no
Dave Cheese says:
you seen robocop?
Al says:
yes

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