Yes indeed you might throw a crying fit and state that henceforth you will ignore my post....hows that going? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
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Yes indeed you might throw a crying fit and state that henceforth you will ignore my post....hows that going? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
well he started it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ferreter/george05.jpg
so there...... :P
@ jimbo12345
It's a fair comment.
I am saddened by the lack of awareness many in the USA have when it comes to the world at large. This isn't to say that we are the only ones that suffer such ignorance or that only Americans make bad ambassadors for their country.
Tourists from all over the world leave bad impressions of their country. Americans have excelled in having the reputation precede them.
As a generalisation, we are arrogant, greedy, and selfish. But we have a generous and unselfish side also. ( I won't argue the arrogant bit)
Bad reputations and stereotypes are not always justified. The british do visit the dentist, do bathe and don't all think if they talk loudly and slowly enough the spanish storekeeper will understand them.
So it saddens me that comments as benign as the one ms. paltrow supposedly said could cause such outrage....it re-enforces a stereotype
I don't think it's all that. Again, if she did say it she can go fuck herself.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
I won't have kind words for a person that insults me cuz of my nationality.
I remember Johnny Depp making similar comments....while living in France.
Quite right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
I really don't understand why anyone would take exception with anyone else who expresses an offish opinion over her remarks.
Again, another instance of the most basic misapprehension of what is meant by freedom-of-speech...so many sincerely believe it guarantees the speaker the right to voice any thing at all without counter; that such statements should (especially if uttered by a celebrity!) stand alone, so that their profundity might be properly appreciated. :dry:
Oh, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidccYes indeed you... might state that henceforth you will ignore my post...Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
Done.
I was replying to jimbo12345's post, or at least part of it, not what ms. paltrow allegedly said. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
She also has a right to face the consequences if Americans decide to rebuff her at the box-office.Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4Quite right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
I really don't understand why anyone would take exception with anyone else who expresses an offish opinion over her remarks.
Again, another instance of the most basic misapprehension of what is meant by freedom-of-speech...so many sincerely believe it guarantees the speaker the right to voice any thing at all without counter; that such statements should (especially if uttered by a celebrity!) stand alone, so that their profundity might be properly appreciated. :dry:
She could then count on the movie market outside the US.
Absolutely, freedom of speech includes living with the consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™She also has a right to face the consequences if Americans decide to rebuff her at the box-office.Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
This, for those who feel compelled to grant her the benefit of the doubt over "what she really meant"...
In January of this year, a statement to the British newspaper, the Guardian:
"I love the English way, which is not as capitalistic as it is in America. People don't talk about work and money; they talk about interesting things at dinner parties. I like living here because I don't tap into the bad side of American psychology, which is 'I'm not achieving enough, I'm not making enough, I'm not at the top of the pile.'"
Back at it again in February (for some, criticizing the U.S. is a full-time job), to Britain's Star magazine:
"Brits are far more intelligent and civilised than Americans. I love the fact that you can hail a taxi and just pick up your pram and put it in the back of the cab without having to collapse it. I love the parks and places I go for dinner and my friends."
In 2005, she said this, to The New York Post:
"I've always been drawn to Europe. America is such a young country, with an adolescent swagger about it. But I feel that I have a more European sensibility, a greater respect for the multicultural nature of the globe."
She was also quoted that year explaining her decision to move to London to the New York Daily News:
"I just had a baby and thought, 'I don't want to live there.'"
In 2004, to Britain's Glamour magazine:
"At the moment there's a weird, over-patriotic atmosphere over there, like, 'We're number one and the rest of the world doesn't matter.'"
She has my personal indictment, based on all this. ;)
I see your 'problem' as one of a blow to your ego.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with what she said, and she has not only seen both sides, but she is perfectly entitled to express her opinions.
It seems to me that, according to your attitude, it's what she said that annoys you, not the fact that she said it.
What annoys you here? Is it because what she describes as the "bad side of American psychology" is actually how you feel?Quote:
"I love the English way, which is not as capitalistic as it is in America. People don't talk about work and money; they talk about interesting things at dinner parties. I like living here because I don't tap into the bad side of American psychology, which is 'I'm not achieving enough, I'm not making enough, I'm not at the top of the pile.'"
I can see how the first sentence here would offend your superiority complex, but do you object to her not having to fold her pram too?Quote:
"Brits are far more intelligent and civilised than Americans. I love the fact that you can hail a taxi and just pick up your pram and put it in the back of the cab without having to collapse it. I love the parks and places I go for dinner and my friends."
Surely this couldn't offend you ... could it?Quote:
"I've always been drawn to Europe. America is such a young country, with an adolescent swagger about it. But I feel that I have a more European sensibility, a greater respect for the multicultural nature of the globe."
I'm surprised you posted this bit, is she not allowed to say anything?Quote:
"I just had a baby and thought, 'I don't want to live there.'"
How many times have we seen that opinion posted here?Quote:
"At the moment there's a weird, over-patriotic atmosphere over there, like, 'We're number one and the rest of the world doesn't matter.'"
So I guess the next thing to do is to ready up the poison tipped umbrella and get an agent over there, before she opens her mouth again.
She is indeed entitled.
As am I, which fact seems to have your knickers in a twist. :whistling
To be honest, if the British, as they apparently do, consider her wise and insightful, kind of makes a joke of her statements...
Yes, it would appear that (if you are British) merely thinking yourselves superior is important.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
I think it's Britain's proximity to France and it's sphere of influence, actually; given France's slightly diminished stature these days, a true Francophile would be well-advised to appreciate Gaulle from the gallery that is Britain.
So to speak. :dabs:
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Originally Posted by j2k4
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Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
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Originally Posted by Ava EstelleWhy?Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
Fair point, well presented.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
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Classic! I knew you had no answer to that, just more 'off the top of the head' bullshit.
Next time you post crap, try to think of a reason for it first, it could save you embarrassment later.
I personally consider the lassie neither. She's an actor of average ability. Probably successful because she is attractive and inane enough to be appealing to the second largest film industry in the World.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
Her wisdom and insightfulness are maters of no importance whatsoever.
Schoolboy error, you just know someone is going to post that back at you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
Didn't you just?
Never thought of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
I read elsewhere that Ava wishes to advise me my sarcasm has bitten my backside, yet I feel no discomfort.
Could she be wrong? :huh:
I can take her (Paltrow, not Billie).
I'm sure she can do the laundry or sth.
plz com over lol
I am a fan of celebs, and I remember reading in a womens magazine that she had been living in Enland for a year and liked it, but she was n ot getting asked out on dates.
The reasons for that is not Englishmen, but the fact that she is so plain and boring and has the figure of a flat mackerel.
I can see why Chris Martin chose her, he is much the same !