As a stand-alone proposition, then, what do you feel the world-at-large ought to be prepared to do to prevent, say, a loony like Kim Jong-Il from acquiring nuclear weapons (never mind he already has them)?
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As a stand-alone proposition, then, what do you feel the world-at-large ought to be prepared to do to prevent, say, a loony like Kim Jong-Il from acquiring nuclear weapons (never mind he already has them)?
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But you having nukes won't stop him from having them, that's the thing.
If anything, you having nukes is an incentive for him to keep them.
To be honest, it's beyond me how this can be solved. But I don't think things are working now.
I'd like to say that you should set a good example and get rid of yours first, make some kind of treaty with every other nutter, but...:idunno:
EDit: a noone-can-have-them kind of treaty, I mean.
The Israelis wouldn't agree to it, tho', to mention one nation.
Well, with the dirty-bomb-terrorist thingie, even SDI/Star Wars doesn't make a lot of sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
The nation/kooks right now are doing all they can to demonstrate a predilection for dealing with terrorists in order to make a strike...terrorists as a delivery vehicle, rather than a MIRV, for example.
It works for them, and destabilizes our foreign policy into the bargain.
That last makes us (the U.S.) real popular right now, doesn't it?
Knock Bush all you want, but a democrat would be similarly flummoxed.
The "we get rid of ours, they'll get rid of theirs" won't work for obvious reasons.
It's quite silly to think all countries have the best intentions.
Let's face it, the reason that people don't want Islamic countries with the bomb is due to the nutjobs we see blowing themselves up along with 30 others in a mosque.
So when we hear Ahmadinejad say anything about wiping out Israel, it doesn't help his case.
People can talk all they want about what is fair. The "we have them, they should be able to have them" bit doesn't fit the real world and it's a typical liberal attitude (not as in party) that I don't share.
Those liberal attitudes will get a nuke in your ass but alas you were being....fair.
True, anyone would have a hard time dealing with it. But it doesn't help that Bush is one scary motherfucker (and not in a good way from anyone's perspective).Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4Well, with the dirty-bomb-terrorist thingie, even SDI/Star Wars doesn't make a lot of sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
The nation/kooks right now are doing all they can to demonstrate a predilection for dealing with terrorists in order to make a strike...terrorists as a delivery vehicle, rather than a MIRV, for example.
It works for them, and destabilizes our foreign policy into the bargain.
That last makes us (the U.S.) real popular right now, doesn't it?
Knock Bush all you want, but a democrat would be similarly flummoxed.
As for fanatics, I don't reckon having nukes as a deterrent will work on them. It might work on people who would arm them, and send them off. But really, to the wrong sort of person, impending retaliation just means more martyrs for the cause.
And then there's the problem of proving that one particular nation is reponsible for that particular act. In the worst case possible, you get nuked, retaliate and end up blowing up the wrong nation, thus antagonizing (what's left of) the rest of the world, and messing up a good chunk of the planet in the process.
And then there's the ethics involved in wielding such weapons against a dictatorship (the favourite scene for any self-respecting nutjob in the business), where like 90% of the population had no say in hitting you in the first place.
From that perspective it seems nigh on insane. Millions of us get killed, so we'll kill millions who had nothing to do with hurting us, just to get even.
Really, the way I see it, there are weapons that will devastate nations, used to scare off a minority currently inside of large populations.
That's just the way I see it tho', I have no solution.
I just had to type this all out twice, 'cos I had a wee crash, and it wasn't any fun at all, so it feels like I'ma call it a night, now.
Aye - me, too. ;)
....run by a retard.
in the words of forest gump........"thats all I have to say 'bout that"
...and hell, I live here. Great country tho......run by a retard
Funny that that quote seems to have slapped Ava with a smathering of STFU in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
That MISquote have done nothing of the sort, and I have no need to answer, again and again, someone who supports an organisation that spirited Nazi war criminals out of Europe and covers up the crimes of paedophiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
I could post anything here and claim JP wrote it, it would prove no more than his crap does. :)
Now, busybody, take your own advice and STFU! :yup:
Well, if you stir shit with a short-handled spoon, you are bound to get it all over yourself. :whistlingQuote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™Funny that that quote seems to have slapped Ava with a smathering of STFU in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Still reeling over your humiliations these past weeks Kev?Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
If you didn't have such an over inflated ego these setbacks wouldn't have hit you so hard.
You've built up a persona on here of someone who resorts to ridicule and personal attacks against anyone who opposes your right wing, Fox News, views.
If you hadn't been so cocky, and taken the time to check your sources, you wouldn't be in this position now. :)
to be fair, you laughing with yourself and associating JP to crimes committed by people who happen to share some theological beliefs with him is more predictable :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava EstelleStill reeling over your humiliations these past weeks Kev?Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
If you didn't have such an over inflated ego these setbacks wouldn't have hit you so hard.
You've built up a persona on here of someone who resorts to ridicule and personal attacks against anyone who opposes your right wing, Fox News, views.
If you hadn't been so cocky, and taken the time to check your sources, you wouldn't be in this position now. :)
You miss the point. I Googled for an article I read some time ago, I found it on a site belonging to someone I never heard of. JP then decides this person is a racist. The article has nothing to do with the person who runs the site, it was just reproduced there. Had I looked around I could have found it on a dozen other sites, including The Guardian.Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
JP then claimed that I be held to account for the views expressed by the owner of the site I lifted the article from, and that I was responsible for this person's views. I merely pointed out the hypocrisy of this, and parralled it with the views and actions of the catholic church, an organisation with a centuries old tradition of the most heinous crimes imaginable. If, as he contends, I have any responsibility for the views of that person, then he does also with regards to the Vatican ... he can't have it both ways.
i didn't miss the point, i understood all that. i was just saying that you're predictable :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava EstelleYou miss the point. I Googled for an article I read some time ago, I found it on a site belonging to someone I never heard of. JP then decides this person is a racist. The article has nothing to do with the person who runs the site, it was just reproduced there. Had I looked around I could have found it on a dozen other sites, including The Guardian.Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
JP then claimed that I be held to account for the views expressed by the owner of the site I lifted the article from, and that I was responsible for this person's views. I merely pointed out the hypocrisy of this, and parralled it with the views and actions of the catholic church, an organisation with a centuries old tradition of the most heinous crimes imaginable. If, as he contends, I have any responsibility for the views of that person, then he does also with regards to the Vatican ... he can't have it both ways.
Nonsense, I described your source as questionable. I didn't decide he was a racist, the fact that he was a prominent KKK member decided that. He's also an anti-semite, I didn't decide that either, he did.
I also didn't claim you were responsible for his views. You're just talking bunkum now.
Oh and the quote is a direct quote, lifted from the forum. Not by me by someone else. Read by others at the time.
Denying it any more just makes you look even more pathetic.Quote:
I'd just love to see Israel destroyed, maybe their god will come back and do to them what he has done many times in their history. Israel is a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. The Nazis certainly taught them well, there's nothing like a practical demonstration to get the message across. l dread to think what the place would be like today if six million of them weren't killed, they'd be waging war across the whole Middle East.
Is that good or bad? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
For weather patterns - good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava EstelleIs that good or bad? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
For horse races - bad.
in this case it's bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava EstelleIs that good or bad? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
you always resort to the catholic-peadophile thing. now you're saying it's to point out the hypocrisy of JP pointing out using david duke as a source (or middleman as it seems).
you also claim to have never heard of him, which means that this is the first time which means the last 500 times weren't to point anything out
That's your interpretation ... I've taken years of shit from JP, and I reserve the right to give as good as I get, and if that means hitting a nerve, that's what I'll do ... he knows how to stop it, but he has no desire to do so, because he's a vindictive twat.Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
I have no idea what that means, but the 500 is a clue that you're talking bollox. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
What shit, what was it you said "put up or shut up". I proved your anti-semitism, using your own words. What shit have you put up with from me exactly. You've said this a lot now but I don't actually know what you mean.
Oh and it doesn't hit a nerve, other than you being allowed to do it so frequently, that kind of surprises me.
I know that there have and continue to be priests who are paedophiles. It makes big news. The same goes for scout leaders or youth leaders or pretty much any group of people.
Like I said I also find the Catholic Churches record on the subject appaling and those who protect the paedophiles should be prosecuted for it as well. However that is the vast minority. In the same way as it is for all of the other organisations. It's just that 99.9999% of Policemen not being paedophiles is hardly big news. 1 being caught is, his force closing ranks or moving him, bigger still.
You 'proved' my anti-semitism? You did no such thing, being anti-Israel, and\or anti-Zionism is not anti-semitism.
Haha, are you kidding?Quote:
What shit have you put up with from me exactly.
When I came back here I made an effort to be civil to you, swapping pleasantries, talking football, etc.. The first couple of times you had a dig, about things from years ago, I ignored it, but there is no way I'm just gonna sit back and take your shit.
500 is a blatant exaggeration, obviously :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava EstelleThat's your interpretation ... I've taken years of shit from JP, and I reserve the right to give as good as I get, and if that means hitting a nerve, that's what I'll do ... he knows how to stop it, but he has no desire to do so, because he's a vindictive twat.
I have no idea what that means, but the 500 is a clue that you're talking bollox. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
you have done it before. everybody that's posted in this thread with the possible exception of microsoulV has seen you do it.
in this case you claim to be saying it was to point something out about you and david duke. you also say you've never heard of him.
now this means you have a habit of quoting racists and never learn from your mistakes so always have to go for the desperate catholic-peadophiles attack. or it means you're obsessed with bullying JP using the catholic-peadophiles attack and this time you just happen to have an excuse.
which is it?
Done what? Had a go back at him, so what? Are you saying I shouldn't? If you are you can STFU and mind your own business.Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
Again, I have no idea what this means, as usual you rant away with no purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
What a load of bollox, if you're gonna pick an argument at least find some sensible subject matter, this attempt is pathetic. :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
Tails?Quote:
Originally Posted by GepperRankins
you're enough to make me think i'm always right :ermm:
Talking football and saying hi doesn't preclude you from being a twunt stain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
Saying you wish Azrael destroyed means you've proven you're anti-semitism, dumbass. You can flounder around like a fish all you want about this or that. (I await you to tell me that everyone in Azrael isn't Jewish:1eye:)
At first you said it was a misquote. I think it would be kinda hard for GayPaul to come with all o dat unless....wait for it....it was a C&P.
There's only a small amount of room for certain members to be ridiculed and I'm already here so fuck off, you overtly racist idiot.
Get a life busybody, no-one on here, including JP or myself, has ever come up with the shit that spews from your mouth.
You are, without doubt, the nastiest piece of filth ever to stalk this forum.
You attack people's family in the most disgusting manner, every time someone proves what an arsehole you are.
Your opinions are worth less than a discarded dog turd. :lol:
there really is a huge difference between thinking israel, especially including the occupation of palastine and plans to occupy more is illegitimate, and hating jewish people :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™Talking football and saying hi doesn't preclude you from being a twunt stain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
Saying you wish Azrael destroyed means you've proven you're anti-semitism, dumbass. You can flounder around like a fish all you want about this or that. (I await you to tell me that everyone in Azrael isn't Jewish:1eye:)
At first you said it was a misquote. I think it would be kinda hard for GayPaul to come with all o dat unless....wait for it....it was a C&P.
There's only a small amount of room for certain members to be ridiculed and I'm already here so fuck off, you overtly racist idiot.
i'd also like to ask where the racism is. where does a european caucasian get miseducated about european caucasians?
also, who can't tell the difference between http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ and http://www.arza.org/ :pinch:
Fuck yo mama!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
:lol: It's awesome, you never, ever answer things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
The quotes there, people who have read it have already made up their minds what you are. There really is no space for spinning it Billy. Watching you try is amazing entertainment but.
Now this, this is a work of absolute single-mindedness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
Nary a word or syllable written with any intent save to insult.
No point whatsoever beyond salving your own perceived slight.
Apart from crazy old Zardoz, I can't recall anyone in the history of this forum (aside from you in your sundry prior incarnations) who would go to such lengths to indulge himself.
Wow.
A whole post without insulting you.
There's something, huh?
I tried be serious-ish, in here.
Pfft.
Screw you guys, I'm going to the lounge.
There's nothing to answer. You asked some absurd question about anti-semitism and tax avoidance by someone I already told you I hadn't heard of, there is nothing to answer, you're just being facetious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Where are these quotes? You post something, claim it's from me, but you post no source. I already told you it is a deliberate misquote and out of context. But you keep on trying, the Inquisition would have been proud of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Still reeling from your humiliations Kev?Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
That's what comes of an inflated sense of self worth.
If you didn't spend so much time looking down your nose at people, and trying to convince them of your superiority, it wouldn't have hit you so hard.
You still haven't replied in those threads, to anyone, even to admit you were wrong, that's the type of person you are, so you shouldn't be surprised that when a gloater like yourself gets caught out, people are gonna gloat. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: etc..
Fixed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
Billy it's a cut and paste from an old Moderation, as you know.
The forum doesn't exist anymore, as you know. So I can't post a link to it. That doesn't change the fact that you posted it.
It's a direct quote, cut and pasted and it really is pathetic you keeping trying to deny it.
You haven't answered whether you have any problem with the chaps tax fraud and anti-semitism. What's difficult to understand about that. You would appear to have a problem with his white supremacism, what about the tax fraud and anti-semitism, any problems with those.
No, I didn't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
How convenient. And why would I know it was gone? I seem to remember being banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
If it's a direct quote where is the rest of it? Or have you just taken what you wanted and ignored the rest, and the context? Typical!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
I've answered this, if you want to keep asking until you get the answer you want instead of the one you got, be my guest, I'm not easily bullied.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
So, another nasty post from the christian, as you'd expect, but don't stop, I find your annoyance extremely amusing. :)
Where did you answer it.
Your noble attempt did not go unnoticed :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
Just read this thread, seeing someone link to David Dukes website gave me a good laugh. Considering that you constantly attack people for not apologizing and admitting faults, I think you should admit you were wrong to link to a KKK leaders website. Perhaps you should find a different article to support your points. Otherwise, it comes across quite hypocritical when you constantly attack people.
Not that I'm going to convince anyone but I think it's quite naive to think that Iran is doing their nuclear research and firing missiles for peaceful reasons.
And yes, being anti-Israel does not make you an anti-semite. However, I find it amazing that someone can be so anti-Israel and then have such positive views of Iran. Just my two cents.
Wrong for what? I linked to an article that had nothing to do with Duke, who I'd never heard of, I posted part of the article and linked to the rest. The same article is on countless other sites. For someone who just joined you seem to know a lot about what I 'constantly' do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marconis
In the words of busybody, perhaps you should STFU and mind your own business. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Marconis
What positive views are they? That they have done nothing illegal? Do you have another opinion then, or are you just a negative commentor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marconis
Stating that one wishes to see the end of Israel as a nation is anti-Israeli. I have no problem with that, that's your opinion and desire. Whether I agree with it or not, I fully support your right to have and express the view.
Saying that the Nazi's taught them well and that one dreads to think what it would be like if six million of them hadn't been murdered is anti-semitic.
How many of the Jews murdered were Israeli. Anyone other than Billy to answer obviously, as he won't.
After the the refusal of the Palestinians to accept the annexation of their country in 1947, the Jewish terrorist groups took the law into their own hands, and set about clearing as much of the country of Palestinians as possible. Sound familiar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip Monk
They went from village to village, burning houses and killing thousands of men, women and children. Sound familiar?
In some cases they made the villagers dig their own graves and then shot them. Sound familiar?
In Dayr Yasin the terror gangs of Irgun Zvai Leumi and Stern Gang, headed by the former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, murdered 230 mostly women and children in cold blood, 25 of the survivors were paraded in West Jerusalem as trophies, then taken back to Dayr Yasin and murdered. Sound familiar?
Stories like this come from all over Palestine, thousands murdered, over 800,000 forced to flee. Sound familiar?
If you can't see that these people did to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to them, you must be blind.