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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
I wonder how many PMs Squizzle is going to get from this thread...
Would like to see some of the more "interesting" invite requests just for a laugh... I wonder how many have tried the line:
"I want an invite, now who's dick do I have to suck?" <-- Now that's someone who's really "into" the community :p
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
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stoi
and its mathematically impossible for everyone to be a member of every site, just be happy with what you have got, and lets be honest, what you have is probably better than an over-inflated high lvl site anyway (no offence to high lvl sites btw).
Amen to that Stoi.
Although there are a few exceptions to this, namely for trackers with very specific content, like BCG for games. I could see someone who was into games to enjoy the community there obviously, but since "high-level" trackers are often just scene/user uploads, they have rather generic forums.
@danio:
There are numerous forums devoted to bittorrent (just the discussion of) that are just as secure as "high level trackers".
Edit: Tsk, tsk, I didn't see that this thread was started by Squizzle. I wouldn't have posted if I had.
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
Usually the biggest anti traders are those who traded big time before and now completely reconverted became zealots of the new "anti-trade" religion.
Already knowing the key members of a certain forum, these ass kissing experts make new accounts starting building reputations as anti traders, lovers of the communities etc.
You can recognize them when they regularly post in trading topics, signaling their presence as anti traders, advising the OP that trading is a big no no and if they want to get access to those heavenly trackers, they better make meaningful posts and/or make friends who maybe later will jump and invite them to those three stars (***) trackers.
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
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Originally Posted by
Skizo
Am I the only person who uses trackers just to steal files?
I don't give a flying fuck about their forums. :blink:
That's because this forum is all you need, and here (FST) is your home forum, others may view it differently and are looking for their cosy home forum. Pity most end up in stupid chit-chat areas posting in rate that ass/av/chick <insert other ghey gheyme>, at least one site has had the sense and foresight to remove it 100%, now to start a campaign to get all sites to remove the crappy posters & childish games from their forums (oh yeh!!). Watch this space :D
As to the OP, what you find who say this are the non-English speaking members or those whose first language is not English, and there seems to be a correlation between asking for good sites and using the word community, it's somehow defacto standard these days to include the word community for some reason, but most of them end up in the friggin games section, rather than interacting in the interesting parts of the forums. And a lot end up being disabled for whatever reason, most of them we can guess at.
But at the end of the day, does it matter why people want somewhere as most only want to eat at the new restaurant to see if they like the menu, there are plenty of places to choose from and not all places will please the connoisseur or please the palette, but some will love what they find and will be total gems and form a good relationships with the owner & the chef and will find a good home to hang their hat on entry.
Live & let live.
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
I'm no trader but I'm not that interested in the community. I DO keep good ratios and behave well but I'm in it for the downloading. I don't have time for large scale chit-chat due to RL constraints.
That does not mean I don't read the tracker forums on occasion or that I don't comment. But that's not the primary reason we're here, right?
EDIT: Oh, and yes, that also means I don't give a **** about "levels". Content/speed is all that matters. If there are no kids around it's great too.
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
Some trackers have good forums, most don't and are full of prepubescent wannabe's. Threads like "What's you favorite color?" and "Would you do this chick?" don't cut it for me, maybe if I was 12 again, I'd find it interesting and appealing.
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
i have always wanted some tracker with good community with active forum where can i chill out, but as i got more trackers oriented to that "community" thing, i found that those forum are just the same with just the same members who post same things. after some time, i got bored to even read that forum, and anyway, once you just will not have a time to post these bullshits. trackers were, are and always will be for downloading files. for me that is the only thing why i use trackers, i register to tracker because i want to download files which that tracker can offer to me, and not because i heard it has a cool forum. ye, forum is a part of tracker, but i think that browse page is a way more important to everybody.don't you think?
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I think this will start a revolution in request threads. Maybe people will stop bringing up community or start saying that community isn't everything.. :whistling
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integral
I think this will start a revolution in request threads. Maybe people will stop bringing up community or start saying that community isn't everything.. :whistling
and maybe not. you wanna bet?
//there will always be dumbs ;)
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
Oddly enough the community users of small trackers are the same at all of them. At first I thought these small places were cool, but then I started to see how they were all sorta similar and basically were just started by some group of friends that wanted to run their own tracker. I guess everyone finds their home, but I dunno if a place with under 10 snatches on popular uploads is really a torrent community for me. Another thing is that most of these community trackers have users who mainly watch xvids and only crave packs of them, which doesn't get me hard tbh. I need my dvds and a nice site to chat on at times when I'm bored at work/school, that's all. Forums have lost there appeal and IRC is replacing that for me.
I've tried the delacct.php option on a bunch of these sites but most don't work and I just haven't cared enough about opening a slot to pm staff or whatever. Plus I feel bad about the inviter or other members in some situations, because I feel obligated to enjoy the community they love. But idk if that's proper either. Tastes are individual and everyone has to find their community, whatever that might mean to them. I'm rambling, so whatever, peace. Now that I think about it I really should delete some of those accounts and scramble my password here, so I can just chill the fuck out and enjoy the sites I use and that's all. :emo:
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
Of the trackers that I'm at, my favorite ones have the best communities. Look at CG for example. It's not high level, but if the doors shut and I was trying to get in damn right I'd say I'm getting in for the community.
In an excellent community people give a flying fuck about the tracker. When people give a flying fuck they are seeding indefinitely. They upload. They contribute. They donate. Good communities are a win win win situations for everyone. So if I hear there is a great community I'm hearing that this is probably a great tracker.
There is also the factor that people want what they can't have, there's e-penis, and there's other unsavory reasons. They do exist; however, different people have different reasons.
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hm i like to be active in the community more in irc chans though.. but i wouldnt put that in a request thread, as you can see from the request i wrote.. it wouldnt be a reason to join a tracker anyways imo but its a reason to join a forum.
and why wouldnt you have answered in this thread, if you had paid attention to the thread starter cheeseman?
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
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Skizo
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Originally Posted by
Squizzle
You guys for real or do you say it in the hope that trackers will be more willing to accept your requests for invites etc?
Explain to me the mentality, if you will.
"I want that tracker for the community, it's nothing to do with it being a high level tracker that I want because it's unattainable, honest" is a hell of a cliché these days :)
Enlighten me peeps :)
//Squizzle
Separate your forums from your tracker and then see if they still want in. Those who do, you would have an opportunity to see if
you want them access your tracker. :whistling
Simple as that.
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Originally Posted by
sokrates
hm i like to be active in the community more in irc chans though.. but i wouldnt put that in a request thread, as you can see from the request i wrote.. it wouldnt be a reason to join a tracker anyways imo but its a reason to join a forum.
and why wouldnt you have answered in this thread, if you had paid attention to the thread starter cheeseman?
Oh, we just got into a small fight, there's still some bad blood between us.
The word "community" has serious identity problems on this site. Community seems to mean exclusivity these days, and it's gotten pretty ridiculous.
This whole rarity thing is actually an interesting social experiment. People seem to want something not because they need it for some purpose, or because they're friends are on it, but rather because other people want it as well. It's interesting to watch people "dream" about sites like FtN, just because other people want it, and members of the site gloat over it. It's no different from hearing about an exclusive party that everyone wants to attend, sucking up to people to get an invitation, then have it not live up to your inflated expectations. Although many "low level sites" can provide anything you could possibly want - good speed, pre, and content - people still decide to go after these exclusive sites just because they're exclusive.
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
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stoi
what gets me is the ones that do get into these "high level" trackers (even just the term high lvl is bollocks).
are already in 30 other trackers, and probably have 10 posts in the forum of 27 of them.
and yet they claim to be community members, when really they dont give a shit about any community, its is just for their e-penis.
and its mathematically impossible for everyone to be a member of every site, just be happy with what you have got, and lets be honest, what you have is probably better than an over-inflated high lvl site anyway (no offence to high lvl sites btw).
gosh, the things i would do to your e-penis.....:naughty::O;):P:D
on a side note...
cliques and buzzwords for people who really dont know any better. self esteem issues pave the way for the need to be leet and trackers fill that void. just take a look around a middle school campus, you will see a parallel which makes your stomach turn
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
I love how Squizzle hasn't posted once in this entire thread except for the original post; do you even care what we have to say, Squizzle?
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Besides high level trackers where it IS hard to get in, community is non-existent really. SCT, TL, BCG, etc. may be lower than FTN, FTWR, but they have ridiculously good content. You get into trackers for different reasons, seldom can a tracker fulfill all of them.
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
honestly i dont give a shit about levels but the whole level thing does mean something to me. the higher up a site is i assume the staff and users are more knowledgeable, the forums are probably active and sometimes as a bonus so is the tracker. and the best thing is that 90% of the douchebags that fill these and other forums will never get in them. im not hating on these forums or similar ones, its just that its wide open to anyone and everyone and that means there are a lot of bad seeds scattered among the very few decent ones.
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th0r
I love how Squizzle hasn't posted once in this entire thread except for the original post; do you even care what we have to say, Squizzle?
Yeah but I've like, been at the pub and stuff.
Everyone's voicing opinions, I'm not going to respond to each individual one now am I?
I'll keep watching :)
All I will say is that personally I think anyone who wishes to be part of a tracker high up on the level list in the first place already has the wrong idea and simply falls into the collector category.
Finding sites, being invited into sites, hearing about sites, it was all so much more rewarding and interesting before I started lurking FST.
It's like there's nothing new left to see any more. :(
Going back to the topic a bit, I'm just sick of hearing the same old "you see, I'm a community person", or "my final goal is this tracker", or whatever.
As someone else said, if you're going to chat shit like that, you're probably better off trading ;)
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
I miss the good ol' days when there were no "trading forums" in existence and people wanted to join trackers b/c they actually liked them.
On a side note, I know a site that I like to hang around on which will start pruning users who don't actually use their accts. So long suckers!
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
must be another tracker.
We are going to prune accounts on Saturday, but I never knew you were a member of BCG, so that`s why i say it must be another tracker.
Btw we are pruning accounts on Saturday incase your interested.
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So are you guys pruning accounts on saturday? Just wanted to verify lol
And nah, I'm not on BCG. I'm not cool enough apparently. But I was referring to ftn in a discreet way.
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lol nothing cool about us mate, 48,000 members and most dont even use the site, so bye bye.
if they are not using it then no point being there, and this makes way for our referal system.
I have no idea how many will go the journey though, im hoping about 20,000 but knowing my luck it will be more like 200.
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
Well, like I told you in the other forum. I won't join BCG until it's level 800, cuz anything below that just isn't leet enough :naughty:
But seriously, we should have a chat sometime when I'm not so drowsy. I think you might like some of my ideas (which you won't be able to tell a soul about)
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Whats up with the man love fest here guys??
Stoi you're soooooo cool-
No Brandon , you are...
No you are
No you are
Just freaking roll the meatball to the other guy already.
:P
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/Detale shows his jealousy by his first post in this thread :whistling
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Na sarge you know I'm really jealous of you and your special "military policy"
Na jus been busy searching for parts for my new WC rig so I got here late.
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
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Originally Posted by
Squizzle
You guys for real or do you say it in the hope that trackers will be more willing to accept your requests for invites etc?
Explain to me the mentality, if you will.
"I want that tracker for the community, it's nothing to do with it being a high level tracker that I want because it's unattainable, honest" is a hell of a cliché these days :)
Enlighten me peeps :)
//Squizzle
I basically want to join high level trackers based on content, speed and curiosity. I'm in ScT and from looking at tracers it wins on releases most of the time. Yet today I asked to join FSC, which is not to devalue my membership at ScT but many good users I know are part of FSC and I'd like to be there too. This whole Anti trader thing is crap most high level users say S*L is "poop" but then they're the first to condem a S*L trade/giveaway. Community is good, I mean no one wants to join a tracker that flames them but can assist a user when having for example: seedbox problems or computer questions. With that being said, level status does matter especially when trackers like FSC are known to recruit good trustyworthy members. Community is essential to keeping a tracker going, so saying you want to join for community, I wouldn't consider it a sin but basing your whole request on it is. A trackers main purpose is to have users downloading and uplaoding, which is why most sites have the "join us in IRC to chat thread". If you want to purely chat/community ask for an invite to a trackers irc chat room.
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Detale
Whats up with the man love fest here guys??
Stoi you're soooooo cool-
No Brandon , you are...
No you are
No you are
Just freaking roll the meatball to the other guy already.
:P
Well hello there :naughty: You from out of town? Did it hurt... when you fell from heaven?
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Oh shit, run, it's yellow thong time.
/I love this community, yes, yes I do.
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Originally Posted by
Detale
Whats up with the man love fest here guys??
Stoi you're soooooo cool-
No Brandon , you are...
No you are
No you are
Just freaking roll the meatball to the other guy already.
:P
lol is called ass kissing!! it happens a lot around here with community reps. Oh yeah can I have my invite now? I always wanted to be part of this tracker. I love the community and I have been wanting to join for a while now.
Ok back in topic now. I think that at least 98% of the people saying all this crap to join "community trackers" as some people call the rare ones are full of crap.
Most likely they are traders with dupe accounts or simply people that don't really care about the community, just the rarity value :D
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meeting new people on different trackers is great and i enjoy it a lot, but it isn't everything. sometimes i just type my good ideas and jokes into instant message windows with AIM bots and i'm doing fine right?
//sarcasm
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
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killercam101
blah blah blah... This whole Anti trader thing is crap most high level users say S*L is "poop" but then they're the first to condem a S*L trade/giveaway.
etc etc etc...
What is an "anti-trader"? What is a "high level user"? What defines either? Based on the line above you seem to rate one higher than the other (ironic choice of words here). Is there any reason to believe one group is better or worse than the other. Is there any reason to pigeon-hole someone into these groups (anti-trader/trader/high level user/moron) at all?
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Brandon
On a side note, I know a site that I like to hang around on which will start pruning users who don't actually use their accts. So long suckers!
I also know a site that will start pruning "stale" users :O... Are the stars aligning? What does this mean Alfred?
/me predicts a sudden surge in activity this week.
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integral
sometimes i just type my good ideas and jokes into instant message windows with AIM bots and i'm doing fine right?
//sarcasm
u say something about an aimbot?
cheats. :P
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
Bad things people recall first, that's why being active at forum section you are threat as [catch] spammer, people judge you for what you post, not necessarily for what you are. After all that is all what they have to judge you by.
So when you want to join other trackers you are threating as a loser and user who don't deserver to be there.
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To be honest this is precisely the sort of shit I'm talking about:
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Remember don't just TALK about community but BE about community!
Community<3
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I think we need also levels for community LOL :D some members need it for sure...
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community tracker -> small user base-> few seeder->torrents/packs die easily->slow download speed
members of community -> exchange invites undertable -> hate ppl exchange invites or giveaway publicly (they call this "trade")
ppl join community -> want to get invite to other tracker and exchange invite undertable in that community and not been called "trader"
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Re: "Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"
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Squizzle
To be honest this is precisely the sort of shit I'm talking about
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Remember don't just TALK about community but BE about community!
Community<3
Yeah now everything connected with community is like shit. it is rather bullshit.