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Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
if you got scammed by an indian doest mean , all indians are scammers
* LOL kidding
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Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
if you got scammed by an indian doest mean , all indians are scammers
* LOL kidding
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OK and what gives you the right to say such things then? Do you have all the stats from all the BT sites all over the globe then? If so bravo that is some orsum access you have there.Quote:
Originally Posted by integral
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Why would I need to go to Egypt to figure out what goes on there?
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OK and what gives you the right to say such things then? Do you have all the stats from all the BT sites all over the globe then? If so bravo that is some orsum access you have there.
So I guess you're calling the ScT staff (which I've seen you praise frequently) racist, since they've banned a few countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by DetaleOK and what gives you the right to say such things then? Do you have all the stats from all the BT sites all over the globe then? If so bravo that is some orsum access you have there.Quote:
Originally Posted by integral
The "right" I have is freedom of speech. I never said the majority of any country was a trader, which would be stupid, considering that India has over a billion people in it. I drew my opinion from the fact that several sites have similar countries banned.
Therefore, any gripe anyone has, including our resident linguist "madmarvel", with specific countries being banned from multiple torrent sites, should be directed at those who have banned the countries, not me. Just because I feel comfortable with voicing my opinion about why certain countries are banned from multiple websites, does not make me a racist.
So please tell me which sites have banned india? I still hvnt come across a site that has banned indiaQuote:
Originally Posted by integralSo I guess you're calling the ScT staff (which I've seen you praise frequently) racist, since they've banned a few countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
The "right" I have is freedom of speech. I never said the majority of any country was a trader, which would be stupid, considering that India has over a billion people in it. I drew my opinion from the fact that several sites have similar countries banned.
Therefore, any gripe anyone has, including our resident linguist "madmarvel", with specific countries being banned from multiple torrent sites, should be directed at those who have banned the countries, not me. Just because I feel comfortable with voicing my opinion about why certain countries are banned from multiple websites, does not make me a racist.
Where can i have a look at this? It would nice to have some concrete proof for such a baseless accusationQuote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
the ignorance and bias of some people here is appalling... I am not even going to bother
Thanks for sharing that with us, would you like a cookie?Quote:
Originally Posted by hrishi2das
it seems that you are talking about me :pinch:Quote:
Therefore, any gripe anyone has, including our resident linguist "madmarvel", with specific countries being banned from multiple torrent sites, should be directed at those who have banned the countries, not me. Just because I feel comfortable with voicing my opinion about why certain countries are banned from multiple websites, does not make me a racist.
hmmmmmm
ok
but you must know a little tiny thing freedom fighter :blink:
you can talk as long as you can but if you are going to talk in f***en manner way about some one else or another what ever you are going to talk about
thats not going to be a good way of FST :angry:
OK :angry:
I hope that i am making my self clear :angry:
oh
forgot saying some thing
about the math
is always been a way not an aim
ok
I conclude from that you're angry or mad about something.
YEA I hate that way of talking about the other peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Presto
specially that one there
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-mos...91/postcount19
^ He was being sarcastic incase u didnt get it ..
@Integral - I am still waiting for a site that has banned india .. Got anything?
SCT what do they have to do with anything here?? Their site their rules. They can ban whom they wish. I wouldn't go so far to say I'v praised them exactly I did stick up for them in a recent thread as I would have for a good number of sites out there in that situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by integralSo I guess you're calling the ScT staff (which I've seen you praise frequently) racist, since they've banned a few countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
The "right" I have is freedom of speech. I never said the majority of any country was a trader, which would be stupid, considering that India has over a billion people in it. I drew my opinion from the fact that several sites have similar countries banned.
Therefore, any gripe anyone has, including our resident linguist "madmarvel", with specific countries being banned from multiple torrent sites, should be directed at those who have banned the countries, not me. Just because I feel comfortable with voicing my opinion about why certain countries are banned from multiple websites, does not make me a racist.
I didn't call you a racist, please try and keep up. That "right" may apply in the U S of A and god bless it, but here we do not have such luxuries. There are rules against saying certain things. Censorship is all over the BT world.
TBH you never said the majority of a country was a cheater/trader, you're right
You said it was a cheater/trader culture they come from.. YEAH thats muuuch better.Quote:
Originally Posted by integral
Although I never said anything about India being banned at trackers, I decided to do a few searches for them - no go. I guess they aren't as bad as other countries in terms of offender stats.
Did find a few broadband india forums giving tips for ratio-master type programs, but I'm sure sites like that exist in every country.
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Originally Posted by integral
all hail the stupid ?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by integral
btw its ironic you speak about manner or ettiquette cos its quite evident who doesnt have it at all . and regarding manners about parents , just as u "hear" alot of things about different countries , many of us also "heard" cheating with wifes and divorce rate is much higher in US than other countries so where do some ppl confront their "real" parents for their ettiquette and manners ??? also US leads worldwide execution of child offenders thats another reason why they have such fantastic "ettiquette" and "manner educations" and thats why they are like this i assume ??? i suggest better keep the grandpa talks about other countries with yourself .better think ten times what your saying against other countries when your country aint pure by any sense .
your probably just another troll who has nothing to do , who likes to put other countries down and prove your the only one right , or having the right opinion by arguing endlessly with people (i am sure you will still reply shamelessly trying to put other countries down or show them of a lower stature cos thats the "etiquettes" and "manners" u may have probably learnt). i suggest you look or rather open you eyes as to how your country is instead of commenting on how the other countries are .
Well. in defence to integral here.
When we were getting a lot of cheats and dupes from Brazil, I asked a staff member, who is from Brazil, why the hell do they do it.
and his answer was exactly the same as integrals.
because it's a cheater culture there.
Now i am not saying its true, as i dont live there, i am just saying what my staff member believed it was, and he does live there.
so...
that doesnt mean they dont have manners or ettiquette from their parents like the troll had mentioned ......Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
thats like watching a football match and if a team is very aggresive/very physical or even sledging other team , we cannot assume that their whole nation must be full of c*nts , can we ? this is exactly the situation here .
thats exactly i was trying to say above stoi . its unfortunate that your facing a problem more from a specific country but that doesnt mean they dont have manners , ettiquettes whereas a country having more better users in the torrent community doesnt mean are the Stephen Hawking pupils or members of the United Nations Peacekeeping Forces or Pope's next contenders .....
I have no idea why anyone would say such a thing about their own country :wacko: ..Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
@Integral - so there you go abt India .. Rest can defend themselves ..
Please collect some facts to substantiate your argument/statement next time when you go all out against a country :naughty: ..
also you can say some people here has its own kind of thinking
that they thought they can say what ever they want to say on what ever they need
because the FREEDOM gives them that thing to do
that's really non respectful way of talking about the others especially if that one is gonna talk about millions of people because some may i say couple of hundreds of them or it might be couple of tens of them in a community of thousands and thousands of different cultures
traders and cheaters are there in every country , race and culture . it might be that some countries have more density than others but there is no denying the fact that they are everywhere :)
good to have us (the israelies). that way you can always point an accusing finger on us and stay clean (since the all other countries never cheat)
how comfortable is it when you have someone to blame... that way others never look at you.
mmmm......
i am an egy ..i own an anti-traders forum... i dun cheat of course
i am good member With a good rep everywhere i have been too
its just a Personal manner no more
you cant generalize the case
some egys think that trading is fun .....thats why they trade and they enjoy it whatever the Consequences ........they just dont care
Others like me..
Feel More comfortable to follow the rules and have real good friends from various
Communties
So its a Personal manner
not a General Fact
Regarding cheating......they just cheat becoz of very bad connection we have here
i couldnt survive any ratio tracker without a seedbox
But....in highly rated trackers
they dun cheat on it...becoz n0 noob is able to get inside good trackers
so you will only see massive cheating attempts on level2-3 trackers
And that what i will Call n00bs Cheating
/eld.
But they cheat on BCG and christ, you dont need to cheat on BCG.
and wtf has lvl got to do with anything, that totally pisses me off.
lvl 1-3 do what the fuck you want, they dont care.
lvl 4-10 oh dont do it there.
huhh trader :ermm:
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-if-...673/postcount2
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-hdb...924/postcount1
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-nee...090/postcount3
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-nee...545/postcount1
and this is your decency
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-pet...49/postcount41
if incase you edit
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hdbits staffs=jerks,idiots.........
To all you people that seem to be like 'phucked in the arse' by others people claiming things about their country/race/customs/upbringing ... it's the interwebz OK ... it's serious bussiness in here :ghey:
I am Belgian and Belgians are known to be hard workers but also known for not being the smartest cheap in the shed ... who cares ... I certainly won't ... I dare you to say anything that will actually hurt me. :rolleyes:
Get a frekkin life please ... and maybe while you're at it learn some decent English ... won't hurt to understand sarcasm and cynism when it bites you.
The Thread Starter is a Trader !! :lol::lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by eldiesel
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Originally Posted by anjelik
[quote=anjelik;3023775]"Hardcore trader" and "Trader" are not same I think.These guys are really hardcore traders:
Edited by D/quote]
looool
the guy has uk-t, FTN, swedvdr
why does he want to trade them
Disme
Yea,you idiot.I am "trader".And I am proud of it.I dont need to beg anyone for invites,so I trade.And I also suggest you to trade,it is better than invite begging,a** licking.
Some guys like I mentioned above,are really enjoying with trading.They have all trackers up to level X,and they are still trading.This is the main difference between me and them.
So STFU and GTFO idiot :D
You have little to be proud of :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by anjelik
At least I can post in a tracker's forum and don't always have to fear for being disabled/banned when a staff member accidentally were to look at my IP-changing history or I would do a trade that went wrong and my IP would be spread all over the interwebz.
Please refrain from calling me an idiot ... it doesn't impress me one bit, nor makes any kind of impression at all coming from you.
Considering how well informed you are about our culture, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you think that India is solely filled with cows and snake charmers. It demonstrates your narrow focus and contorted perception.I admit that most of your posts are informative so this comes as a bit of a surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by integral
Never EVER make a sweeping generalization,its just plain wrong and ignorant when you don't have hard evidence to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by integral
Now to the OP:- Let's see some facts and figures, proper evidence to back up your findings before you even begin to point a finger at other countries/people.
Too much time in your hands maybe.
All this ignorance makes me dizzy.BAH!
Well, then if it's a case poor speeds then why bother joining the trackers at all??.. i don't wanna be excluding any one group from anything per say... just that, if you can't belong to a tracker without cheating.... or trading to get there, then why bother, really... all your doing is screwing all the legit members of them sites by not sharing the love.. and that (besides the headaches it produces) is why staff at trackers hate it
I can only speak for myself and so when I was offered an invitation to SCT, I turned it down because I heard it's almost impossible to keep a good ratio there without a fast connection and I didn't want to jeopardise his account and more imporantly his trust in me. Simply put,If I can't seed it, I don't dl it.I'm into the spirit of sharing just as much as you or any other torrenter is.
I suspect tracker staff ban countries because it's the "easy" thing to do. Ban the whole ip range and never look back,that's their attitude. Right/wrong,you decide.
Well Said!Quote:
Originally Posted by soulreaper
Well it is easy to ban a whole country, and a lot harder to catch cheaters if your open all the time.
Mid 2007, we opened up and let in 100,000 members (we did have about 40,000 before that, so 60,000 members we let in), now this is just a general sumarisation, because i have no hard proof, believe it or not, your call.
but out of those 60,000 new members, i would say a good 30,000 were either cheaters or traders, or dupe accounts (sign up, leech, get warned, sign up again, leech, get warned, repeat the process).
1 guy we traced he had 250 accounts (i cant remember what his nationality was though), why someone would have that many emails i dont know.
but the vast majority of those, i would say 65% were Brazilian.
All my staff were clamouring for me to ban Brazil, I said no, i am the eternal optomist, thinking we could change their ways, or get good members in from that country that did not cheat.
I think we have about 7,000 members now from Brazil that do play fair and by the rules, but i can understand why tracker staff do ban countries, I know we were very close, and some of my staff still want us to ban them, even though its a lot harder to get in now.
there is not a correct answer, even doing what we are doing is not correct, because we are stopping everyone from joining up.
but in all honesty, after 4-5 years or running a tracker.
Open Signups do not work.
Invites are not foolproof.
even our fake page and referral system is not.
but we were closed for nearly 8 months, we went from 100,000 members, all the way down to 45,000 members, and now we have just over 30,000 members.
so lets be honest here, its not that they have a slow connections, its just that they do not want to seed back, they want something for nothing, but they also want the speed of a private tracker, well you cant have it both ways im afraid, so they either cheat, or sign up get what they want, and either never come back or create another account to leech what they want again.
Morale of all that is,
Its a pain in the fucking arse opening up, and just not worth the trouble.
But i still wont ban an entire country.
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Originally Posted by soulreaperConsidering how well informed you are about our culture, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you think that India is solely filled with cows and snake charmers. It demonstrates your narrow focus and contorted perception.I admit that most of your posts are informative so this comes as a bit of a surprise.
Never EVER make a sweeping generalization,its just plain wrong and ignorant when you don't have hard evidence to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by integral
Now to the OP:- Let's see some facts and figures, proper evidence to back up your findings before you even begin to point a finger at other countries/people.
Too much time in your hands maybe.
All this ignorance makes me dizzy.BAH!
Very well said brother. People just tend to think in negative judging from a single incident and then open up a thread accusing a particular country of trading/cheating. Then there are a whole lot of people who substantiate it by citing that its just our culture and education thats influencing all these without providing any sort of proof or facts.
Well its really damn easy to accuse someone. Even i can open up a thread tomorrow accusing people of US or any other country of cheating. Anybody can do that. But the fact is there are bastards in every country and no country or community is perfect. Its known fact that many a time people end up getting cheated while trading then why go for trade in the first place; And why this hue and cry and why accuse an entire nation of one billion people of cheating. Generalizing things of this sort is completely bullshit and it shows how narrow minded the people here are and i just can't help but wonder how would have been the reaction if US would have been blindly accused like this.
In my first post I very carefully skirted the fact that it was brazilians that stoi has so much fun with, but this is quote is the most honest evaluation in the whole thread and it is from a SiteOP.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
I am from New Zealand and the internet speeds here are truly horrendous, most of the country has not even been upgraded to ADSL2 yet and the vast majority of users have a 128k to 256k upload speed, we simply seed torrents for longer. Cheating usually comes from an ADD attitude of wanting it now, fuck the waiting. What really boils my bunny is users from certain countries who harp on about how they have to cheat because of the 'slow' internet speeds in their countries, this is just a cop out, there is no need to cheat, it is simply that most of them aren't bright enough to realise this.
YOU likes to critique other's.. it's always better to have a clear self-reflection on yourself before judging other people's behaviour.. i know that NO ONE is perfect but at least i do believe that most people would have think about what they have said or do to others and not just purely a one-sided criticism.. YOU makes me felt that YOU are such a self-centred person.. living in a world that evolves ONLY on YOUR principles and beliefs..Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
Here you preach the virtue of patience and the principles of Eternal Seeding but it were seriously enough then what was need of renting a seedbox?
Fair enough question, mainly to upload, and I will be getting another seedbox for exactly that purpose for a new site that is coming up soon as well as a couple of others , but in the meantime for the last year almost it has been 128k up for me...........Quote:
Originally Posted by apextwin146Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
Here you preach the virtue of patience and the principles of Eternal Seeding but it were seriously enough then what was need of renting a seedbox?
Right .. but you do have to realise the fact that many ppl in these places that being talked abt would not have the sufficient resources to rent a seedbox to upload like u did citing the low upload speed as reason .. I too use a seedbox as a simple 256 Kbps connection here costs as much as a seedbox(not through the retarded resellers) ..Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtemisFair enough question, mainly to upload, and I will be getting another seedbox for exactly that purpose for a new site that is coming up soon as well as a couple of others , but in the meantime for the last year almost it has been 128k up for me...........Quote:
Originally Posted by apextwin146
I am not saying that in such circumstances people should trade and ratio cheat but it helps if u have a background knowledge regarding the circumstances that lead to such events .. Its not in their culture to do so.. They are merely trying to use watever resources they can get their hands on to move forward .. do you think they just wud stop downloading just cuz they cant manage a ratio .. They have to get the files and they will by using watever means accessible to them .. Bty this excludes people who like to trade for the rush for it and make it a interweb hobby .. Thats just plain pathetic