who antitraders arE? tt
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who antitraders arE? tt
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Invite or Account trading is against almost every tracker's Number 1 rule. If you break that rule, expect to get banned. Its their tracker, they can do whatever the fuck they want.
they make the rules, but sometimes those rules mean nothing for emselfs xacly. so why the fuck shd i follow em for example if they can do whatever they want?Quote:
Originally Posted by yankeezfan1
I wouldn't expect someone who cant spell to be able to follow rules either.....Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptanAmerica
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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Sorry, you're in the wrong place.
The reasons i dont like trading or giveaways and account trading.
Account Trading:
Maybe its because i play games quite a bit, or at least used to, and i hate cheating, so i firmly believe that if you want an account, you should start off from 0 and work at it. not get someone elses account, and have a nice buffer to hit and run everything when you do get into that tracker.
Also the person that is trading it, may never have really wanted it in the first place, they are just using it as a stepping stone to get into another tracker that they do want. so a pointless member.
Giveaways and Invite trades:
How on earth can you tell they will be a good member, now i am not saying that everyone on public forums are bad, but how do you know they are going to be good.
also with Invite trades, you are getting something in return, lets be honest here, its getting harder and harder to keep the members that trackers have happy and stay with us, never mind ppl trading their invites to go elsewhere, also you are using them as a commodity, we give them to you freely (well most trackers do) and you get something out of it, an invite to somewhere else.
Honestly, all i want is good members that other members can trust, especially the inviter can trust their invitee and explain how the tracker works to them, BCG works a hell of a lot different to say a TL or a BitSoup, but if you dont tell them that before they join, and explain the idiosyncrasies of what does make BCG different, they will fuck up and put your account into jeapordy.
Now is that to much to ask. (obviously to some here it is but i dont see why)
i respect anti trader they don't mak war with trader and just take torrent as fun
but the others who fight with trader i hate them and they should banned
Fact is tracker staff dont really give a shit about any trading section.
Trade away. Any tracker admin worth their salt catch them through their own site as i do.
Any other way is a bonus.
You traders really just need to stop whining like little bitches when you get caught. fst staff this and fst staff that etc. It doesnt happen.
You can't be a 100%. I take risks everyday, rl and on the internet. Icould easily not have, but then I'd have a shitload of invites and noone to give them to. But if the forum where you're giving it at is good, then your chances are better.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
Here's my take on it... I've seen tons of GOOD people start out, completely new to BT, and then after a year or so they're on more sites than they need and their HDDs are blazing from activity.
The GOOD members almost never need to trade. They are invited to other trackers based on things like activity, ratio, etc.
A number of times I've been invited to another tracker because the staff of that tracker likes my style of sharing, likes the contributions I will make to a community, etc. It's all really simple.
Now, I have to agree with earlier posts about the ratings system. YES, some communities are rare, but for the most part there's almost NO reason to go for them. I prefer the ultra-secure communities myself, so I know exactly why they ban traders.
There are 3 reasons to ban traders from a tracker:
1) Trades for money takes away valuable resources for the tracker to survive. Each tracker wants members that will contribute to the community, not trade off their account for profit.
2) Most people who have to use trades to get into a tracker are NOT good members. I'm mostly talking about account trading/purchasing/etc. Many times the members were banned already for not following the rules of the tracker, being a nuisance to the community, etc. Those people are not welcome back, but trading is the main route they take to get back.
3) If the #1 rule is not respected, how can the administration expect users to respect the other rules and share properly?
Most trades happen in secret, and it's only through tracker staff getting together and sharing account information that makes it a lot easier to ban the traders.
When you sign up for a website (including all these social networking websites), you're agreeing that the administration of that website may see your user data! If they want to collaborate with other websites for any reason, they can do that. If you disagree, then you should NOT sign up for these websites. You go in fully knowing what the staff can do.
Just remember, the good members get invites for free.
Wow, thats one hell of a blanket statement. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ein2015
I thought the same thing myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by TokemanWow, thats one hell of a blanket statement. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ein2015
So if you ever got an invite in trade for anything you are a shitty user.
And if you got all your invites free you're a good user.
Rules to live by I guess
am i the only one that thinks the expression "a free invite" sounds a bit odd ?
mike: hey john, i'm inviting you to my birthday party!
john: cool, i will go, because you invited me for free.
:unsure:
that's bullshit man, for example i've started from 0 about 5 years ago and now finally ive got pretty much everything I ever wanted, that's about 7-8 private trackers, on each of these trackers I have at least a 3.0 ratio and it's not like 1/3 GB but more like 1/3 TB. So I think I'm a valuable member regardless how I've got my invites. I'm not a collector, all the trackers I have I use on daily basis and since I have everything I need I'm done trading. This wouln't be possible w/o trading, as you can see I'm not much of a forum troll therefore the chance of getting an invite for "free" is close to 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
The point is, a trader can be just as good member as anyone else
but you traded so your not as good as a member as a member that did not trade.
and woopie doo, you have a big e-penis, very fucking pleased for you, it means fuck all.
big e-penis? cause I said that I'm a valuable member? easier to insult insted of answering like a normal person would do?Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
how are you a valuable member?
you traded to get in for a start, so you broke rule #1 from the very start, so how can you be a valuable member?
and thats all ratio is e-penis.
I would respect a member with 2 TB down and 2TB up with no hit and runs, before i respected someone with 5gig down and 3TB up (unless they were an uploader).
ratio is bollocks, always has been always will be, with your "buffers" that you could get in 6 months with an unlimited seedbox quite easy, you never need to touch the tracker again for years, but you will still be a PU or Elite or whatever the top class will be, so keep getting invites, to keep trading invites.
Just because someone has a good ratio, does not mean they are a good member, if anything they are cocky little fucks, that deserve a kicking (not @ you just in general)
didn't you read what I siad a while back? I use all my trackers on daily basis, I even seed some of the stuff I've downloadad months ago hence the big UP, not because of some crap seedboxQuote:
Originally Posted by stoi
on the other hand, I would like to thank you for kicking me off BCG a few months ago, thanks to you I've started looking for an alternative game tracker and I eneded up on UG+BG which offered open signup at that time. Now I wouldn't give my UG account for 10 BCG invites :) UG is awesome :)
Pleased they are happy with you.
tbh i dont know who the hell you were on BCG or why you got disabled, but maybe thats the point, i havnt missed you 1 iota.
so basically what you're saying is, other then the 20-30 friends/admins on BCG, you wouldn't notice if anybody disappeard (how could you? you're human as well) thus you wouldn't miss them, meaning, apart from that 20-30, the rest of your members are useless or at least not "valuable"? is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
get those traders, they don't share the love
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Originally Posted by L3g3ndaryso basically what you're saying is, other then the 20-30 friends/admins on BCG, you wouldn't notice if anybody disappeard (how could you? you're human as well) thus you wouldn't miss them, meaning, apart from that 20-30, the rest of your members are useless or at least not "valuable"? is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
you will be surprised how many people i will recognise, that is what taking part in the community entails.
Tell me what your name was, i very well may recognise it, but tbh trying to get me riled with your UG comment was just childish in the extreme. (i hear it all the time, we ban someone, "well UG is better", as if i give a fuck)
looks like you do give a fuck, else why are you still here, replying to me? btw I didn't wanted to offend you with my UG comment but it's the truth, this is how I feelQuote:
Originally Posted by stoiQuote:
Originally Posted by L3g3ndary
you will be surprised how many people i will recognise, that is what taking part in the community entails.
Tell me what your name was, i very well may recognise it, but tbh trying to get me riled with your UG comment was just childish in the extreme. (i hear it all the time, we ban someone, "well UG is better", as if i give a fuck)
Yet here you are in an anti-trader/trader thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
Please stfu with your bullshit. You do care and this place pisses you off. What other reason do you have to be here other than to find out who's trading what?
But either way since you hate traders you have no reason to be in the trading section am I right or do you trade?
So who the hell is classifed as a good member in a tracker?
The trackers primary purpose is for sharing a file not taking part in some arsed community shit .. There are better forums out there with much more activity than tracker forums ..
Since the primary purpose is to share files the members who do it diligently should be classified as good members ..
If only people could appreciate the fact that some staffers still hang out in this place, despite all the shit that goes on in here, instead of treating them as a threat... it's obvious why the majority of them never post here any more, and that is a shame.
well said kaffeine
the rest of you are just fucking scum and i have every right to go to the trade section to ban you sad bastards as you have to go in there to be sad bastards.
and NO i do not give a fuck about U-G, why should i, we are a different tracker to them, why should i give a shit.
Edit: I had just woke up so blew a fuse but my point still stands, if you can go in their to trade, then surely i can go in there to see you trading and ban you, if i want to.
Anti-traders and tracker staff are 2 different types of members imho, anti-traders are those that are not staff, but tell staff stuff, staff have every right to be in the trade section.
and regarding U-G and BG, not once since they opened, have i ever been to their URL, that is how much i care about them, as long as BCG is good and doing fine, i could not give a monkeys about any tracker.
Back to Basics
If freedom is outlawed only Outlaws will have them :)
Actually no, the people who made private trackers want more than just anonymous leechers/seeders, why on earth would they be a private community if they wanted that. The whole point of a private bit torrent tracker is a small (they have user limits) user group that are known. By known I mean that make a contribution to the tracker be it via uploading, irc and forum activity not just leeching the files.If the staff of the trackers just wanted a huge amount of leechers/seeders they could just set up the tracker as a public one, but no, they, the people that made the tracker in the first place made a private place to share privately.Quote:
Originally Posted by apextwin146
Maybe you should ask the staff of the trackers that you so want to be a part of what they want and expect from a user. If you just want to leech files then usenet is beckoning and of course then there is no upload ratio required.
The whole point of the filesharing community and the bit torrent trackers in particular is to share, not just files but to share as a community.
As someone wrote earlier. Next time make a third voting option labeled- "what is the point of this poll"?? :idunno:
I would have voted for that.
no offense but
"Yes, anti-traders should be banned they have nothing to lose" makes no sense at all? banned at their sites for being against trading-following the rules :blink:? Lol
This just sounds like it may be coming from a trader that might have been hunted down one too many times by the trader hunters, and is a little fed up with it.
I couldn't care any less if people trade. It personally affects me none(but I don't support trading eventhough it doesn't affect me, because I know it does more harm than good to trackers). But if you're going to go the trading route than you got to accept the risks involved. More than likely people are going to look for you if you make a trade thread.
And that is perfectly acceptable. I haven't been banned for trading. I haven't made a successful trade in over a year i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkin'
I didn't care until they decided to push for a ban on trades. I figure this is a better solution for everyone. Its win-win for anti-traders and traders.
I do not know what is anti-trader for and he is for real ? Can somebody define anti-trader ?
The "cliche" anti-trader
- Has ANTI TRADER written in his sig, in bright colors and huge font
- Sucks up for his trackers
- "Dreams" about trackers, or owning them
- Wants trackers for the "community" he never seems to participate in
Most annoying type of user on these boards.
This is a good subject, but in all honesty I'm against anti-traders. 80% the giveaways, requests, and trades that go on here are against tracker rules anyway, so i don't see the logic in letting these guys go around busting people if we are allowing it to begin with in the first place.
It's like letting a nark chill out with you in your local crackhouse, then letting him stick around after he's busted the place. Hard part is finding out who did, and proving it, which will most likely never happen (in the tracker case, not the crackheads lol), so there will always be risk. I know for sure we should ban those n00bs who QQ about random account disabling, say they've done nothing, and have 30 threads in the trading forums.
If you want to show compliance to the tracker sites, start a "no movement" list, forbidding any form of trade for " " tracker.
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Originally Posted by tX
thanks for the info it's sound as lame as a genuine trader
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Originally Posted by NaixQuote:
Originally Posted by tX
thanks for the info it's sound as lame as a genuine trader
"But real gangsta-ass niggas don't flex nuts
Cuz real gangsta-ass niggas know they got em"
chances are the real anti-traders, who mean business, don't want anyone to know their motives, so will try to appear as normal. and wont brag about it either.
Ok i will answer this.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubmissionYet here you are in an anti-trader/trader thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
Please stfu with your bullshit. You do care and this place pisses you off. What other reason do you have to be here other than to find out who's trading what?
But either way since you hate traders you have no reason to be in the trading section am I right or do you trade?
I am not an anti trader, i am a tracker owner that does not like trading, completely different.
I very rarely venture into the trade section tbh, nor the giveaway section for that matter, but if they banned me from going in there, it would drive me batty, because i couldnt see what was going on regarding "My Site".
yes it is my site, if i do not want you in it, why should you get in regardless.
trading is retarded, get a life and get in the normal ways, if you cant do that, then you do not deserve to be in that tracker, pretty simple really.
It's not stoi is hiding who he is or anything, and i doubt he goes into the trading sites looking for people giving away BCG invites and PM's them "yo i got this FTN + HDbits account ill give u for ur BGC account", and then ip fucks the guy. i mean, his quote is "BCG Owner" for god's sake.
being as active as you are here though stoi, i'd try and talk to a mod or admin if the trades bother you. I know a few sites that have no movement trackers, it keeps thigns clean and civil.
Another thing, I'm sure stoi WOULD care about UG being better than BCG, if it where true. It's not though (unfortunatly for me), and whoever said that was just being a baby. It's like rosanee says, "I don't care what people think because everyone likes me". so true.