Should anti-traders be banned?

[Ein2015]

Here's my take on it... I've seen tons of GOOD people start out, completely new to BT, and then after a year or so they're on more sites than they need and their HDDs are blazing from activity.

The GOOD members almost never need to trade. They are invited to other trackers based on things like activity, ratio, etc.

A number of times I've been invited to another tracker because the staff of that tracker likes my style of sharing, likes the contributions I will make to a community, etc. It's all really simple.

Now, I have to agree with earlier posts about the ratings system. YES, some communities are rare, but for the most part there's almost NO reason to go for them. I prefer the ultra-secure communities myself, so I know exactly why they ban traders.

There are 3 reasons to ban traders from a tracker:

1) Trades for money takes away valuable resources for the tracker to survive. Each tracker wants members that will contribute to the community, not trade off their account for profit.

2) Most people who have to use trades to get into a tracker are NOT good members. I'm mostly talking about account trading/purchasing/etc. Many times the members were banned already for not following the rules of the tracker, being a nuisance to the community, etc. Those people are not welcome back, but trading is the main route they take to get back.

3) If the #1 rule is not respected, how can the administration expect users to respect the other rules and share properly?

Most trades happen in secret, and it's only through tracker staff getting together and sharing account information that makes it a lot easier to ban the traders.

When you sign up for a website (including all these social networking websites), you're agreeing that the administration of that website may see your user data! If they want to collaborate with other websites for any reason, they can do that. If you disagree, then you should NOT sign up for these websites. You go in fully knowing what the staff can do.

Just remember, the good members get invites for free.

[Tokeman]

Just remember, the good members get invites for free.

Wow, thats one hell of a blanket statement.

[puckface]

Just remember, the good members get invites for free.

Wow, thats one hell of a blanket statement.

I thought the same thing myself.

So if you ever got an invite in trade for anything you are a shitty user.
And if you got all your invites free you're a good user.

Rules to live by I guess

[Cabalo]

am i the only one that thinks the expression "a free invite" sounds a bit odd ?

mike: hey john, i'm inviting you to my birthday party!
john: cool, i will go, because you invited me for free.

[L3g3ndary]

The reasons i dont like trading or giveaways and account trading.

Account Trading:

Maybe its because i play games quite a bit, or at least used to, and i hate cheating, so i firmly believe that if you want an account, you should start off from 0 and work at it. not get someone elses account, and have a nice buffer to hit and run everything when you do get into that tracker.

Also the person that is trading it, may never have really wanted it in the first place, they are just using it as a stepping stone to get into another tracker that they do want. so a pointless member.

that's bullshit man, for example i've started from 0 about 5 years ago and now finally ive got pretty much everything I ever wanted, that's about 7-8 private trackers, on each of these trackers I have at least a 3.0 ratio and it's not like 1/3 GB but more like 1/3 TB. So I think I'm a valuable member regardless how I've got my invites. I'm not a collector, all the trackers I have I use on daily basis and since I have everything I need I'm done trading. This wouln't be possible w/o trading, as you can see I'm not much of a forum troll therefore the chance of getting an invite for "free" is close to 0.

The point is, a trader can be just as good member as anyone else

[stoi]

but you traded so your not as good as a member as a member that did not trade.

and woopie doo, you have a big e-penis, very fucking pleased for you, it means fuck all.

[L3g3ndary]

but you traded so your not as good as a member as a member that did not trade.

and woopie doo, you have a big e-penis, very fucking pleased for you, it means fuck all.

big e-penis? cause I said that I'm a valuable member? easier to insult insted of answering like a normal person would do?

[stoi]

how are you a valuable member?

you traded to get in for a start, so you broke rule #1 from the very start, so how can you be a valuable member?

and thats all ratio is e-penis.

I would respect a member with 2 TB down and 2TB up with no hit and runs, before i respected someone with 5gig down and 3TB up (unless they were an uploader).

ratio is bollocks, always has been always will be, with your "buffers" that you could get in 6 months with an unlimited seedbox quite easy, you never need to touch the tracker again for years, but you will still be a PU or Elite or whatever the top class will be, so keep getting invites, to keep trading invites.

Just because someone has a good ratio, does not mean they are a good member, if anything they are cocky little fucks, that deserve a kicking (not @ you just in general)

[L3g3ndary]

how are you a valuable member?

you traded to get in for a start, so you broke rule #1 from the very start, so how can you be a valuable member?

and thats all ratio is e-penis.

I would respect a member with 2 TB down and 2TB up with no hit and runs, before i respected someone with 5gig down and 3TB up (unless they were an uploader).

ratio is bollocks, always has been always will be, with your "buffers" that you could get in 6 months with an unlimited seedbox quite easy, you never need to touch the tracker again for years, but you will still be a PU or Elite or whatever the top class will be, so keep getting invites, to keep trading invites.

Just because someone has a good ratio, does not mean they are a good member, if anything they are cocky little fucks, that deserve a kicking (not @ you just in general)

didn't you read what I siad a while back? I use all my trackers on daily basis, I even seed some of the stuff I've downloadad months ago hence the big UP, not because of some crap seedbox

on the other hand, I would like to thank you for kicking me off BCG a few months ago, thanks to you I've started looking for an alternative game tracker and I eneded up on UG+BG which offered open signup at that time. Now I wouldn't give my UG account for 10 BCG invites UG is awesome

[stoi]

Pleased they are happy with you.

tbh i dont know who the hell you were on BCG or why you got disabled, but maybe thats the point, i havnt missed you 1 iota.