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Originally Posted by WhatMan
No please don't leave, I'm begging you to stay. Your so much better than everyone here at fst :rolleyes:
Also in no way do I represent Fst's attitude towards what.cd, I represent my own.
The angry people make the most noise. Dont let it bother you. Plenty of us have had nothing but positive experiences with your tracker, including getting accounts re-enabled. Your effort is appriciated, at least I think so.
Why would you leave?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
Sure, some people hate you, and sure, other people appreciate your help, but what's your real point in leaving?
Not everyone in FST has the same attitude towards tracker staff.
lol gotta <3 these what.cd threads.
This guy got some raw dumbass hollywood talent lol.
I've always had an interest in artistry though.Like what's the inspiration behind the names of these imaginary characters,right?
imo the names should have been at least 6 words or more in length,a little complexity doesn't hurt,and the more italian the better :).
Also names like jon,mike and james in the same sentence have that obviousness to them that easily throws em as made up lol,more like people you once played basketball with not your boss or your co-workers lol.
You got it in you,you just gotta do away with the simpleton cast lol.
And I guess douches like this serve to justify the shit treatment guys receive at what.cd disabled lol.
The idea that is trusting people on the internet just keeps getting dumber and dumber aint it.
:wacko: And I thought staffing here could be confusing at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
sez, people who join the #what.cd-disabled channel do not receive "shit treatment". Each person has their case evaluated, is treated fairly, and generally talked to with much more respect than they treat the staff in return. People are only banned from the network if they refuse to stop lying, and there are others in the queue to whom the staff must attend.
The shit treatment isn't through vulgarity but through the wave of demeaning bullshit they throw at you. As you stated we are just another person in line, another number to your staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
Do you even give a :censored: about your members.
see this is why I like you(okay maybe also coz you are credited for gazelle),you are always responsive and I think it would be such a loss to your members if you chose to leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
About the shit treatment,well that's basically what most of them say,good to know its not really as shitty as such.Do you happen to have watched crossing over?Good movie right?
hmmm .. i don't get the whole jim/jon/james whatever story and i won't try to read through it again (pretty confusing to me aswell).
i just wanted to admit that i didn't like what-staff until i saw whatman popping in and helping (mostly exposing liars) people that just lost their account. also his posts here make sense and made myself think about how i would run a tracker with +100.000 members.
now, before i get accused of kissing whatmans ass, i have to tell you that i don't know him and that i still don't like certain staffers there.
i don't have to and they won't care. i don't care if they like me or not either.
but then again, i think that there are still good ones trying to actually help members in trouble.
gl getting your account back op
Your assuming everything whatman says is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by dackel
And you're assuming that everything whatman says is false.
^^ I don't know what whatman did to you but its the internet,it would be dumb of him to start from a point of trust going backwards.The right way is the other way around and while it obviously has its small flaws its the best of the two.
^^ 4 tvcy of course not you rart
Who has more reason to lie?Quote:
Your assuming everything whatman says is true.
In any case, every single time someone comes whining to these forums, the facts are revealed that they have lied not only to the staff of the tracker where they were banned, but also to the forum here in some pathetic plea for sympathy, presumably in hopes that public outcry will get their account reinstated. What people here sometimes forget is on a site of 110K members with 20 people to run the place, it's a full time job and tempers are often stretched, especially by the idiots who wind up in the disabled channel. I've seen firsthand some of the idiocy that has landed former members in that channel in the first place, and I can see why you'd be pissed off after having hundreds of people throw the same lies in your face when caught breaking a rule. With that many members, there will obviously be a greater number of disgruntled cast offs, perpetuating your apparent stereotype that their staff are terrible.
how can i know if all he says is true?
and if you are reffering to,Quote:
(mostly exposing liars)
then look up the threads where the op gets exposed for cheating or creating dupe accounts, gets flamed by other fsters and gets dissapeared.
in this case i believe whatman.
but i tried to make another point with my previous post, it's cool that he takes his time to come to fst and deals with "members in trouble".
i have to add that i don't know what is going on in their irc tho.
It's the truth members on here have more reason to lie than whatman. But also his site is constantly bashed on these forums, and it may be just an attempt to regain credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok
It is truly alarming how many members will speak out against what.cd as compared to other sites. It should really convey a strong message.
Have you ever stopped to think that it might be related to the huge number of members they have there? And the amount of cheaters, traders, sellers and so on that it brings altogether?
And I don't know if we're talking about the same what.cd, but I don't see them being bashed anymore than any very popular site around here. What I do see, are some members who actively engage in criticism, for the simple fact they bother to come explain the situations that happened.
You don't see many trackers doing that, and that's why some try to take advantage of it.
As I posted earlier the disabled channel admins only come here to defend what.cd. They have no intention of helping anyone on here.
All they do is harass members and expose fabricated private information.
Its almost as if they have not got enough satisfaction from banning people on the disabled channel.
Only thing I can figure is that the disabled channel was empty and they were looking for a battle.
I mean they literally have no other posts besides those incriminating disabled what.cd members......
I really don't have a major problem with whatman as he isn't the disabled channel admins and he has proven to be helpful on the forums.
But for the own good of his site he should look into new staff members to breathe life in to their slowly corrupting disabled channel.
I'm sorry, but to be frank, who are you to say that such information is fabricated? Do you have access to the information they do? No. Were you there in the channel? No. The guy even admitted to having made a second account, which is against their rules and a banable offense in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
I'm not kissing any ass here but honestly it seems you have some sort of personal vendetta against the place.
Have you ever considered the only people who would generally have to resort to these means are those that were already told no in the disabled channel? People get re-enabled there every day, just because every once in awhile an unhappy 'customer' decides to stir things up and throw in the sympathy plea doesn't mean they're bad at what they do.Quote:
I mean they literally have no other posts besides those incriminating disabled what.cd members......
Think of it this way - you order something from Newegg (Or any other online store that allows commenting and rating) If you get the item and you're happy with it, you might be one of those few that go and post some positive feedback, but most people don't bother doing that. Now lets say you get the item and it doesn't work, or you simply dislike it, well there's an exponentially higher chance you're going to go post a negative comment with a horrible rating as soon as you can.
In sum - You're more likely to hear from people with bad feedback than those with good. You don't see members of any site posting here thanking people for being re-enabled after visiting the support channel, but you do see people whining about being denied.
@TVCY: Well, for your information, I've just been relayed (2 mins ago) a IRC convo between one of the admins, padutch, and a user who went ask why his invites were removed. It happens the person he invited was a cheater. The user was pretty civil, and so did padutch.
As I said before, it all comes down how people handle when under pressure, especially the members who were infracted.
By the way, if proven that the member in question indeed cheated, he isn't accessing any longer any invites or trades here.
[QUOTE=Karid;3371378]It seems you have some sort of personal vendetta against the place.[quote]
I don't know what a personal vendetta is but you're probably right about that :P
@TCY: all my respect to you man, BUT... you generalize too much for my taste... what you're doing here can't be fair...
how many staffs they have at what.cd? 1? 2? No, maybe they have more! Maybe they have like 3 staff members and two of them treated you in a pushy way and the third one is whatman, the one you like, am I right? :unsure: If I'm not, so you can't say the what.cd staff is crap man :ermm:
if a tracker staff think a user did something wrong, he won't be (and shouldn't be) nice to this user until he proves the contrary... (edit: as cabalo just said hehe) the staff need to put users under "high pressure" to test them... came on! this is internet and they can't look into your eyes to see if you're telling the truth... well, maybe with webcams :unsure:
7th i guess your right.... I'm talking about nightoath, n0nam3, and xavier in particular. Basically the whole disabled channel administration that joined here.
*edited* Not trying to start a big fight removed second half. Night FST
well, I said all that thinking of 2 things:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
first: I had problems in a tracker (bitme) for inviting people that turned out to be cheaters... all my invites were taken out and without knowing why I went to the irc to ask about my invites... :unsure:
think about someone very angry (the bitme staff that day :angry:) and a user completely lost (me :O that didn't know about the cheaters)... In the end they were nice to let me stay (but no more invites, just a small price to stay I would say) and I've learned a lesson...
now, what I'm trying to say is that I had the option to go to their IRC "demanding" (:01:) my invites back (still without knowing about the invitees) or even get mad for what I've heard that day and just get banned for my posture... :ermm:
second: thinking of BCG and two different staffs I see there... stoi and the other one I forgot the nick :P... stoi is the "lovely" and "soft" guy we all know, and the other one is that well know for his "hard heart", the one who bans people for "so little" or whatever... well, I would say that BCG works well because we have a little bit of both you know?
It would be a mess if we had like 10 stois there :P and it would be unbearable if we had only of the other staff :lol: (hope I don't get banned for this :P)
ps: I'm sure you had a lot of chances to amend things with what.cd staff but instead you keep pushing your own head against a wall :frusty:
ps2: I wish you well :P
This is the other side of the coin which we don't know about. This would certainly change our perception to some degree about the what.cd staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karid
I'm not generalising or accusing any site in particular but my only concern is that a disabled user should be allowed to explain himself (if he wants to regain membership) properly before getting kicked from IRC. Ofcourse,I don't make the rules but I feel it's the ethical thing to do. From some IRC logs that i've seen,this doesn't always happen I'm afraid.
There are people here like myself who appreciate your assistance and explanation. Don't mean to be rude but if you think that people here are gonna oblige/agree with everything you say then you'll be disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
I can ASSURE YOU, that mike and jon are not the same person. Map07023 (me) invited Jayb0ne (jon) who proceeded to invite himself multiple times. My account and his were both banned and the staff assumed that all jayb0nes accounts were mine (which they were not). A half a year later, kw1k (aka Jon aka jayb0ne) moved to a different location with a different ip address and used a computer that I had sold to him during our time at work together and got back on what.cd. He proceeded to toss me and invite, which i accepted while somewhat confused as to what was going on. We were both immediately banned again. There is no James in the story, he is non-exinsistant. There is only me (mike) and jayb0ne/kw1k (jon). We ARE NOT the same person, and I can provide so much evidence to prove this. I am not lying about anything, I am trying to prove the truth and get MY account back (map07023). You guys just keep assuming that I am lying and manipulating and that all these accounts are mine, but really they are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
Whatman, please check the What.CD email. Thanks.
OP, I also have no idea what you got yourself into but you did break the rules, a few times if I read correctly. You invited a person that made multiple accounts got banned and then proceeded to make another account yourself, knowing you were banned there. I see nothing unfair. Basically created a lot of headaches for the staff there.
I also lost my what account to "cheating", and both I and the accuser know it was bullcrap. Had about 7 Gb uploaded over a year giving about a 1.00 ratio.
I think it's a plan to sort out people that didn't use the account for everything. Like a dnb fan over 30 ever stood a chance of that teeny emo train. The whole thing was not smelling like anything washed.
Yeah. A cheater with those credentials. I am sure my ip will follow neatly into the folds of this comment.
Atleast I'm not a desperate dick...
All I know is that the staff of What.CD is downright stupid. They really think that I made multiple accounts despite so much evidence pointing to the fact that it is false. They are also extremely rude. I don't think I would want an invite back even if I was given one. Shocked at how dumb some of those people are...
be honest, you hate them cause they didn't reenable you.
Well its already been pointed out that you broke the rules, and not only once. You had more then one account yourself, and you had a friend that made multiple accounts. Considering you (and the guy you invited) broke the rules, you are lucky they even talked to you about it at all.
Learn from your mistakes and move on.
Haha, so you're mad now because What.cd wouldn't let you create multiple accounts? (Keep in mind that you DID create multiple accounts.)Quote:
Originally Posted by map07023
How much more clear could that be?Quote:
Originally Posted by What.cd Golden Rules
This is truly redicilousy!
Out of all the blue this universe can count it's energy from, there suddenly is a "Help me with my what.cd" thread. I find that somewhat soupcourious.
What.cd used to be a silent little oink replacement that suddenly got more credit for beeing oinky than having files. But now?
One account per lifetime means what?
You are accountable for your invitees wich means they fucked you over.
lol
That is an interesting thought. Can it be done?Quote:
Originally Posted by susiserken
I don't like it and I don't think other war people are going to complaine to. Thats the power and noones knowes shit!
Lord help us!