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Could you snap a picture of the cheat client your using?
I suspect that jderu and qdo0obp are friends. They showed up in the disabled channel at the same time, posted at this forum at the same time, and even like the same cheating tools.
We can be nice to disabled people - even cheaters. But not when they lie to us. That's just disrespectful.
Banning people off assumptions again are we, whatman?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
You were really nice to jderu.... Bullshit.. Your staff didn't even have the decency to tell him why he was banned.
Talk about disrespect... this guy has seeded for you guys for 2 years!
i did not lied,Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
i even done a video with the irc and utorrent as another proof, i can seed, i have the original client
http://rapidshare.com/files/37120467...stuff.rar.html
my stats show more than enough
11003 hours on utorrent; was online from 15.03 until now, i'm still online, same port on utorrent, my old mac addres, just Ip changen the rest is the same; i do have a dynamic ip... ; some speed tests on other pages...
edit:
no i don't know him, i want my account back, did you read anything? -that is all, my account back
my utorrent2.0 is from official page, totally ignored even here, now
what more can i do? a fair chance like the others, seeding/leeching 195 torrents
i'm disabled but i'm still seeding back; i done nothing wrong to nobody :(
i can hold 200 torrents, as i said uTP was disabled by instructions from here, saying that utorr 2.0 has some problems...
WhatMan how can i prove that i didn't cheat?
An banned user who assumedly cheated
A cheater who developes tools so that others can cheat
And a sysop who detects those tools.
All in one thread. Happy Easter! :lol:
i offered proof, you only insulted me bringing nothing, why is that :(
did you do this with others? for fun or on a hunch... i'll disable this one
just say the torrent's name and watch my video or i'll print screen more, no matter if my laptop brokes i'll buy another, i seed, i can seed even more
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/882...eeeemytime.jpg
isn't nice when someone knows more than you?
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/696...rustatssss.jpg
how can someone ignore the last launched, was online all this time, using one port :(
do the right thing... please
how can i as a user, after all this everything, so i tried so much to recover my account, i can't even get an answer...
Lol, what assumption are you referring to? The likely correct assumption that he was cheating along with his "friend"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls youBanning people off assumptions again are we, whatman?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
You were really nice to jderu.... Bullshit.. Your staff didn't even have the decency to tell him why he was banned.
Talk about disrespect... this guy has seeded for you guys for 2 years!
Seriously, if someone were trying to cheat me, I would have shown him a lot less respect than he received in the disabled channel. What do cheaters expect?
jderu, I have seen few people on here who were actually innocent and when it was shown that they did do nothing wrong, their accounts were re-enabled, as you witnessed and pointed out in the disabled channel.
I would refrain from listening to someone like TVControlsYou. He creates dupe accounts (What) and tries to sell invites (Waffles), then cries foul when he's caught. I don't know about anyone else, but I have absolutely no respect for invite/account sellers.
He reminds me of a little dog yipping at your heals whenever he takes part in these What disabled threads, trying so hard to get your attention.
Yes.... Under what grounds is that even nearly a legitimate reason to list as stacking evidence.Quote:
Lol, what assumption are you referring to? The likely correct assumption that he was cheating along with his "friend"?
I know it may have been confusing when I referred to an assumption created by what.cd Staff members, as I would be inclined to agree that they do assume alot.
I'm sorry for not specifying.
I will disregard all your ignorant comments pertaining to me as you seem to know nothing, and arguing would lead no where.
Since I don't have all the facts I will refrain from passing judgment on anyone here but I have a little bit of experience when it comes to people attempting to pass a lie off as the truth and I have to agree with WhatMan on this one all , all the denied similarities happening purely at random stretches the limit of plausibility .Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls youBanning people off assumptions again are we, whatman?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
You were really nice to jderu.... Bullshit.. Your staff didn't even have the decency to tell him why he was banned.
Talk about disrespect... this guy has seeded for you guys for 2 years!
Under similar circumstances here my first thought would actually have been that both accounts are the same person and the onus would be on the OP to prove otherwise.
A mod should check if they are dupe accounts on here.Quote:
Under similar circumstances here my first thought would actually have been that both accounts are the same person and the onus would be on the OP to prove otherwise.
lol, i was disabled because i have an unlikable flag they hate, and won't analyze speed connections seed time...
will move to another country if this is more plausible
it's impossible this can't be happening, gaved you speed tests, anything what you need so you can form an opinion based on facts,
and lets go by guessing
i only proved that whatcd lied; what did whatcd staff do? helped? even looked at my profile?
if i'm right doesn't matter anyway, but i'm innocent, i think i proved that all in the open
If this proves a lost cause i want everyone to know that i did not received a fair processing or even a chance...
seeding 11k hours it's not crap, it matters to me;
i know the truth, justice is blind or lost interest after a while
Sometimes that's impossible to prove and nothing can be done without proof. With experience though you tend to get a feeling for that sort of thing and more times than not you are proven right somewhere further down the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls you
Of course I could throw a marble in the air around here and have it come down and hit six or seven cheaters so maybe I'm over-estimating my own skill.
That's an automatic g line, saying that what.cd is racist. lolQuote:
lol, i was disabled because i have an unlikable flag they hate, and won't analyze speed connections seed time...
You have a chance. Don't waste itQuote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
there staff are like that only !
read again. the guy has been banned for cheating in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tv Controls youBanning people off assumptions again are we, whatman?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatMan
You were really nice to jderu.... Bullshit.. Your staff didn't even have the decency to tell him why he was banned.
Talk about disrespect... this guy has seeded for you guys for 2 years!
his assumptions have just strengthened him in his conviction.
in my mind if you does not lay for tracker. this will never show out.
^Sell yourself for English classes.
somebody had to say it.:(
If it were upto me,I'd probably re-enable him.This guy is funny as fuck lol(went to buy chocolate? :lol: )
And probably coz he might be innocent and say that he wasn't,he aint acting like somebody who would repeat the same mistake again.Lesson learnt and things move on.
thay said - you know what you was banned for
its not fair - why i was banned? they even didn't say for what
There's an extremely high chance they think you've cheated. I guess your only chance now is going to their IRC and not telling them "lies" - for example, the fact you didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by zedruslan
- be straight with us
- we know what you did, and you know it too
- no, i don't
- you're a liar, bye-bye
even if user really knows what he did, somehow i still get some catch-22 feeling from such dialogue...
20 seconds later...Quote:
[23:31] --> jderu has joined this channel ([email protected]).
[23:31] <WhatMan> Hi, jderu.
[23:31] <jderu> hy
[23:31] <WhatMan> What's your username on sb-innovation?
[23:31] <jderu> sb?
[23:31] <jderu> a lol
[23:32] <jderu> i think is ------
[23:32] <WhatMan> Oki. Which user class are you?
[23:32] <jderu> account there for emule client
[23:32] <jderu> lower
[23:32] <jderu> 10 -20 posts i think
[23:33] <jderu> link you?
[23:33] <WhatMan> Sure.
[23:33] <jderu> 1 sec
[23:33] <WhatMan> What does the emule client do?
[23:34] <jderu> http://www.sb-innovation.de/members/------/
[23:34] <jderu> edonkey
[23:34] <jderu> no p2p
[23:34] <WhatMan> Yeah, but why do you use sb-i's emule client?
[23:34] <jderu> different sharing
[23:34] <jderu> cause i do nut know how to use the normal emule
[23:35] <jderu> used morphxt too
[23:35] <WhatMan> You only know how to use sb-innovation's emule client?
[23:35] <jderu> i mean the normal client you have to wait
[23:35] <jderu> the modified clients have no waiting
[23:36] <jderu> no waiting time
[23:36] <jderu> i do not dare to use anything on my trackers
[23:36] <jderu> as you see i seed if needed
[23:37] <jderu> and not only here
[23:39] <WhatMan> [quote by jderu on sb-i about multiplying his upload credit by 2 and showing up on a snatchlist]
[23:39] <WhatMan> What's all this about?
[23:40] <jderu> a test for weir client
[23:40] <jderu> weird clinet
[23:40] <jderu> do not worry
[23:40] <WhatMan> Whose snatch list?
[23:40] <jderu> rotorrent.ro
[23:41] <WhatMan> So you cheated on rotorrent.ro?
[23:41] <jderu> no
[23:41] <jderu> that client was used normal
[23:41] <WhatMan> So you multiplied your upload by 2 on rotorrent.ro, but you didn't cheat?
[23:41] <jderu> no was kept to 1
[23:41] <WhatMan> Then what does "i've put multiply real up with 2" mean?
[23:42] <jderu> believe what you want
[23:42] <WhatMan> I want you to tell me what "i've put multiply real up with 2" means.
[23:42] <jderu> i tried this client on a traker not private
[23:42] <jderu> semi-private
[23:42] <jderu> or smth
[23:43] <WhatMan> So it's okay that you cheated, because the tracker was only semi-private?
[23:43] <jderu> only testing
[23:43] <WhatMan> Why were you testing?
[23:43] <jderu> they said is a real client
[23:44] <jderu> you can download with it :)
[23:44] <jderu> and yes you can download and upload
[23:44] <WhatMan> Why were you testing "i've put multiply real up with 2"?
[23:44] <jderu> yes
[23:44] <WhatMan> Why?
[23:45] <jderu> because i do not dare to try on private trakers
[23:45] <jderu> and i don;t have to cheat
[23:45] <jderu> i leave my laptop open 24/7
[23:45] <WhatMan> Why were you testing the cheating functionality of a client, jderu?
[23:45] <jderu> no
[23:45] <jderu> the client
[23:46] <jderu> i downloaded with it
[23:46] <WhatMan> Did you try to fake upload with it?
[23:47] <jderu> no
[23:47] <jderu> but being a forum i tried to spam arround
[23:47] <WhatMan> Then what does "i've put multiply real up with 2" mean?
[23:47] <jderu> spam
[23:47] <WhatMan> So now it's nothing? 5 minutes ago, you said it was testing.
[23:47] <jderu> after that i found the real client here
[23:47] <jderu> http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/
[23:48] <jderu> was a test
[23:48] <jderu> you see the screens and seed times
[23:48] <WhatMan> ABC is banned on most private trackers, including ours. I don't know where you're going with this.
[23:48] <jderu> never used it
[23:48] <jderu> on privates trakers
[23:49] <jderu> so was testing only
[23:49] <WhatMan> Why were you testing a cheat client?
[23:49] <jderu> i only used vuze and utorrent on private p2p
[23:50] <jderu> as i tested emule, morphxt, emule sbi
[23:51] <jderu> thats it, my test stoped there, p2p i used wit utooent
[23:51] <jderu> utorrent official
[23:51] <WhatMan> There's a difference between testing a client and being concerned that the cheating functionality of a client isn't working as expected on a tracker with a snatchlist, which only appears on private trackers.
[23:51] *** qMark|afk is now known as qMark.
[23:52] <jderu> this abc is banned no?
[23:52] <jderu> if so there was no point for me to used, only testing
[23:52] <WhatMan> ABC doesn't enter into the equation, we don't care about ABC, I don't know why you brought it up.
[23:53] <jderu> was where i posted that
[23:53] <jderu> no?
[23:53] <jderu> you asked about my post
[23:55] <WhatMan> I asked about your post here where you were concerned about your fake upload showing on a snatchlist when you were cheating
[23:55] <jderu> i yes
[23:56] <jderu> was faze mod name
[23:56] <jderu> probably banned averywhere
[23:57] <jderu> those were the options
[23:57] <jderu> you can see up in the screeshot
[23:57] <jderu> 1 is normal
[23:57] <WhatMan> I know all about faze mod, I want to know why you're using it and multiplying your upload by 2!
[23:58] <jderu> was not a private traker, so anything there wasn't really shown
[23:58] <jderu> so i don't know
[23:58] <WhatMan> rotorrent.ro is not a private tracker?
[23:59] <jderu> well i think is closed
[23:59] <jderu> you can chek
[23:59] <jderu> check
[23:59] <WhatMan> ...So it is a private tracker?
[23:59] <jderu> gone forever or smth
[23:59] <WhatMan> So it's okay that you cheated because the tracker closed down?
[00:00] <jderu> you can just download
[00:00] <jderu> no account
[00:00] <jderu> no
[00:00] <jderu> not a private traker
[00:00] <jderu> no ratio and stuffs
[00:01] <jderu> was a test, cause i don't use those on any privates
[00:01] <WhatMan> Is this rotorrent.ro? http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9067/pariu.jpg
[00:02] <jderu> yes i guess
[00:02] <WhatMan> And you call that not a private tracker?
[00:02] <jderu> i think it was
[00:02] <jderu> can dl without a account
[00:02] <-- xorian has left this server (Ping timeout: 241 seconds).
[00:03] <jderu> you can downlaod without
[00:03] <WhatMan> Sure, but then you don't show up on the snatchlist, do you?
[00:03] <jderu> seeding leeching
[00:03] <jderu> i think
[00:03] <jderu> dunno
[00:04] <WhatMan> So you had an account on rotorrent, then?
[00:04] <jderu> downloaded without one
[00:04] <WhatMan> So how did you show up on the snatchlist?
[00:04] <jderu> real download
[00:05] <WhatMan> I think we're done here.
[00:05] <jderu> probably
[00:05] <jderu> dunno
[00:05] <jderu> did need
[00:05] <jderu> so i can't convince you?
[00:05] <WhatMan> No.
[00:05] <jderu> was no need to use on others
[00:05] <jderu> p2p private is not same as testing
[00:06] <WhatMan> You should not be testing cheat clients. Please leave.
[00:06] <jderu> 1 sec
[00:06] <jderu> tested on a not private
[00:06] <jderu> :)
[00:06] <jderu> so was spamming there
[00:06] <jderu> thats all
[00:06] <WhatMan> We're done. Please leave.
[00:06] <jderu> k man
[00:07] <jderu> you can't help?
[00:07] <jderu> on fst i said all
[00:07] <jderu> no cheating done
[00:07] <-- jderu has left this channel.
*sigh*Quote:
[00:07] <jderu> @WhatMan can we talk again?
[00:08] <WhatMan> No jderu, we can't.
[00:08] <jderu> not even if i'm a member on ftn and stuff?
[00:08] <jderu> not an average member; you can see the seeding
[00:08] <WhatMan> Not even if you're a member on FTN, jderu.
[00:09] <jderu> new account then?
[00:09] <WhatMan> No.
[00:09] <jderu> was not private p2p
[00:09] <WhatMan> You cheated. Get out.
[00:09] <jderu> so testing even nothing involved
[00:09] <jderu> i did not cheat
[00:09] <jderu> and you know
[00:09] <WhatMan> We are done, jderu! Get out.
[00:10] <-- jderu has left this channel.
So jderu was a cheater...
Sorry to tell you this jderu, but you're not getting your account at What.CD back. If you had admitted that you were a cheater, maybe WhatMan would have given you a chance...
Thanks for the log. I just located his account on the board and had a good laugh.
Spamming around, huh?
lord amighty
as long as he didn't cheat on what.cd, i don't see the harm.
Man, does Whatman has patience.
With all these threads/lies. Then explaining why an account was banned when the person knows what they did. Over and over. Props.
Yes he does. Without even being in the conversation that was painful for me to read. I think I would have booted him right after he lied about the emule client. And then to have the balls to come back into the chan thinking he can get a second chance because he thinks he's not a "regular member" simply because he's a member at some site. Sheesh...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
That's one wonderful excuse, hands down.Quote:
not even if i'm a member on ftn and stuff?
I'd have re-enabled him on the spot. There's no way there are any cheaters on FTN! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pretend
as for myself, i'd have re-enabled him for being a trusted member of SBI.
he should've mentioned that he is uk-t/rabbit/sct refugee... it could guarantee him 3 more chancesQuote:
Originally Posted by pretend
where is jderu
Doing what these tards always do when they get caught as liars... running away, or possibly making a nice new account to get a fresh start ;)
Trusted? :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by cinephilia
Hello, I've been banned as well. I did nothing wrong and would like to give the mod the information he requested, but I've also been banned from the IRC channel. It involves my son, who had an account that was disabled. (He later was reinstated with a new account.) I opened Firefox instead of my normal Chrome browser. It automatically popped up my son's old user name up, but I didn't notice and entered my password. When I saw it was the wrong name, I entered my user name and discovered I was disabled. I had an exchange with a mod on the what.cd-disabled room that did not go well. After I talked to my son I tried to go back but discovered that I was also banned from the channel. All I want to do is explain what I now understand happened. Both my son and my self are good What.cd citizens but now we're both banned and have no way to explain. I'm happy to sacrifice my account so my son can keep his. If someone knows a What.CD admin, please pass this on to them!
What I've never understood about the whole "My brother/sister/dad/mother/dog did it" excuse is... why don't you just use one account for the family? Saves the trouble of maintaining ratios on multiple accounts, don't have to worry about the mods scrutinizing you more carefully for having a shared IP address, etc.
The whole "I randomly opened a browser I don't use, didn't notice this and went to What's address, didn't notice that a banned username was in the username box rather than my own, etc." excuse doesn't sound that plausible... plus when you say "reinstated", what does that mean? Generally if they reinstate you they give you your old account back. If he got a new account without asking the staff, then had the IP that was linked to both of your accounts linked to the old banned account, there probably isn't much you can do. They have a 1 account/user/lifetime rule, and they also stipulate that if you share IPs with someone else, you risk being banned if anyone on that IP gets banned.
huh? where is it on the timeline of all those 33 unfortunate events and how does it go with the rule 1 user / 1 account in lifetime?Quote:
Originally Posted by threadbare