Re: I'm not making any more giveaways
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Originally Posted by
apextwin146
Then please suggest a easier way of handing out invites ? Again you are suggesting that you should not invite just anyone but only the ppl you knw ..
Since you have given an account of your story let me give you an example .. None of the friends (or friends friends etc) even knw what uTorrent is .. Now i have some invites which are simply lying there without being put into use .. So in your opinion i should just keep them there for stats sake right? Cuz god forbid if i give to some needy user that has put up a request for it .. I am breaking a bt commandment ..
I can see your point, but I don't think that just because you have invites to a tracker you have to use them. I also reckon there's a mild difference between answering a request and making a GA offer. It depends why you do it, kinda seems to me like a lot of people offer invites expecting to gain something, if just friends and reputation through it. This is especially relevant for invites to sites that don't really need new users, or will only benefit from genuinely good new users rather than just people to increase activity.
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Originally Posted by
apextwin146
No there arnt hundreds of thousands of BT users in these pvt trackers .. Most of them have a user limit and i guess you are aware of it .. I havent personally visited any other forum but i can tell you this that a lot of new folks that want to get into trackers do it the Pvt Invite forum way and we all knw what happens there ..
To your other point .. I want to join a tracker that specializes in Ipod format Releases.. Now its not a L33t site (its not any level or watever too) .. It dsnt have open signups nor any IRC interview .. Now what do u expect me to do?
Same is the case with many sites that provide some niche content but wait according to your logic those are all l33t sites ..
Oh yes there are. :p I was meaning across all private sites, not on any individual one. Its impossible to calculate how many due to numerous people using multiple trackers, but there's an awful lot of people using "private" torrents. Many times more than have ever registered at a private invite forum. Imo.
Ok, well again, I don't really have an issue with you making a request for one, ideally on another tracker with a forum section for it. If you make a good case, have been on that site a good amount of time, haven't made numerous requests before and have a decent amount of activity there, and seem like a decent fellow, I might even pm you myself if I could help.
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Originally Posted by
apextwin146
Look i mean no offense to you or anything .. All i want to say is that Public GA are requried .. Everyone needs a starting place and this is it .. Just to give you an example someof ppl who are currently staffing at various sites got their first invites here in public giveaways ..
Apart from that no matter what happens you can never build up trust on the internet .. So the whole Idea of inviting users you trust seems bullshit to me .
I guess we misunderstood each other somewhat. My initial point was that spitting invites out like confetti simply on the basis of screenshots and speed tests, and then expecting quality results, is a bit deluded. There are other ways to give yourself a better chance of finding people to invite places who might be good users if that's what you care about, which the OP in the thread obviously did.
Re: I'm not making any more giveaways
The thing is that it was a tad simpler when all this started out .. The invites were always limited but the number of New users joining wasnt this large .. A lot of patterns and mechanisms(so to say) have been constructed/evolved due to this ..
Mostly people give away so much on FST/Any other forum is just so that they can be noticed .. Once noticed they have a chance to get into the next level of the BT hierarchy ,so on so forth. Though everyone thinks that no user should give out invites like confetti ;but they do see the other persons Rep before inviting him to the next level or watever themselves. Somehow Rep translates into trust over the internet which is where this flaw starts .. Once ppl start seeing examples of other ppl getin into Higher level sites due to their Rep they start emaulating the same behavious and this is how we are at this stage now .. anyways its a pattern that has been set since some time and i doubt we would ever be able to change anything .
Re: I'm not making any more giveaways
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Originally Posted by
apextwin146
The thing is that it was a tad simpler when all this started out .. The invites were always limited but the number of New users joining wasnt this large .. A lot of patterns and mechanisms(so to say) have been constructed/evolved due to this ..
Mostly people give away so much on FST/Any other forum is just so that they can be noticed .. Once noticed they have a chance to get into the next level of the BT hierarchy ,so on so forth. Though everyone thinks that no user should give out invites like confetti ;but they do see the other persons Rep before inviting him to the next level or watever themselves. Somehow Rep translates into trust over the internet which is where this flaw starts .. Once ppl start seeing examples of other ppl getin into Higher level sites due to their Rep they start emaulating the same behavious and this is how we are at this stage now .. anyways its a pattern that has been set since some time and i doubt we would ever be able to change anything .
Very true. Most invite fora is in this sad state. Well, think about it, might this be the reason why such fora exist? :blink:
Re: I'm not making any more giveaways
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Originally Posted by
MadIrish
Why anyone who cares about any site would invite random people simply on the basis of a couple of ratio proofs and a speedtest has always been beyond me.
in the hope of being noticed and look like an altruistic person.
they're absolutely convinced that it's a passport to "higher heavens".
Re: I'm not making any more giveaways
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they're absolutely convinced that it's a passport to "higher heavens".
Why can't it be that they're just nice people want to help other people
Re: I'm not making any more giveaways
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Originally Posted by
AdrianPhoto
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they're absolutely convinced that it's a passport to "higher heavens".
Why can't it be that they're just nice people want to help other people
it's just obvious that they aren't. although they hand out hundreds of invites, they wouldn't invite random bt users to their l33t sites; most of them are more selective and sheming than you might think.