"Anti-Traders, Community Lovers"

not really, I would just use usenet, and get 20meg down all the way.

Thats who i think bittorrent is fighting against, not other trackers, as soon as the seedbox members jump off a torrent and its over a few days old (see my browse page thread) the torrents slow to a crawl, because members are seeding 500 bloody torrents at once.

We have a seeding limit on BCG and so far it works, you can grab a torrent from 2 years ago and it will go 500KBs, thats what we want not 1Kbs and take you 6 weeks to download it.

I would rather see a torrent deleted and reuploaded personally.

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not really, I would just use usenet, and get 20meg down all the way.

Thats who i think bittorrent is fighting against, not other trackers, as soon as the seedbox members jump off a torrent and its over a few days old (see my browse page thread) the torrents slow to a crawl, because members are seeding 500 bloody torrents at once.

We have a seeding limit on BCG and so far it works, you can grab a torrent from 2 years ago and it will go 500KBs, thats what we want not 1Kbs and take you 6 weeks to download it.

I would rather see a torrent deleted and reuploaded personally.

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Like i said. It depends on your connection speed. Of course you shouldn't seed more torrents than your connection allows you.. but if i can keep 200 torrents seeding and only use 1/20 och my bandwidth, then i don't see a problem. I would say it's the opposite to lazy.

EDIT: of course, theoretically, all 200 torrents could get leechers at the same time, but how likely is that? like i said, mostly i have leechers on like 10-15 torrents at a time, and i never reach max UL speed if i haven't just added a fresh torrent.

well you see.

If I knew who you were on BCG, I would check your history, and every torrent that you were seeding, i would recycle. I have done that before.

Ok your from sweden but even if you have a gigabyte seedbox, put all your bw into 1 or 2, when another 1 or 2 have leechers, put all your bw into those. not just let 500 torrents seed for the sake of bloody seeding them, and this is why we will never have a seeding time on BCG, its bloody stupid.

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hmm...

I have no plans on making some definitive statement on this issue, just a sliver of an opinion.

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And a mighty fine one it is too.

Doesn't seem that long since you were making your first steps into the foray of trackers & forums :flowers: :smilie4:

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Awww.... thanks sarge. I took a few knocks along the way, and wore the n00b label when I aptly deserved it; but I'm settling in now and having fun. I was on a bit of a hiatus for quite the spell due to a big move in job/part of the country but should get back into enjoying BT land in the near future :) ... oh... and my smokin' hot new ISP connection should make the experience a whole lot more fun !! The joys of no longer having to wait days for a 4GB movie.... bliss;)

Is this anecdote time? Let me prepare my notes...

^^^ good post.

One or two here have stated that if you take away the tracker, then the value of the community will wither (or words to those effects). This is simply not true.

Take FST for example. How many people joined this place only to discover that there is nothing here to share except experiences.

Also, there is a tracker community that only has about three torrents, yet it maintains a healthy community, simply because people want community.

When I first started torrenting, I was only in it for the files, but after a little time, I realised that there was something more involved, and that often we need to interact with others to answer questions that perplex us. Before long, we are laughing and joking with people we will never, ever, meet (unless we have a bottomless wallet of course).

Ask the majority of site owners why they started their sites, and they will all give the same reason (excepting those who use the sites to earn a fast buck). That reason is simple; to share what they have with the world.

Why did someone start FST? Was it to create a meeting place for people with similar attitudes? Probably. What probably started as a small concern has grown into a behemoth. How many people here have found virtual friendship with likeminded individuals?

Filesharing is the common link between us all, but it is not the defining factor. No one can put their finger on what makes one place great, and another place crap. Each to his own, with his opionions...

I hate all the traders and I want to chop their heads off. I love communities, can i pls join FSC now?

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I hate all the traders and I want to chop their heads off. I love communities, can i pls join FSC now?

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If you want to join there.
Then you have some serious booty to kiss:D

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I hate all the traders and I want to chop their heads off. I love communities, can i pls join FSC now?

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Can I has your email?

No, they are not for real. Period.

I like having a good tracker with active and fun community forums. You get to know members that way.

Ok here is my view:

I do not trade at all. I think that it is wrong and therefore don't do it. I don't make a big deal out of it, because those who do, mostly do it, as you say, to improve their chances of being invited to the tracker they want to get to.

As for the community bit, I think that most of the time it is completely made up and that people want it just to be a member of a high level tracker. However there are some people who genuinely want to be a member of a site because of the community. For example someone made a request for FSC a while ago, going into detail about why they wanted it due to the cooking forum
/community there. To me this seemed like a real request due to the wanting to be a part of a community. But most of the time it is simply not true, and they just want to be a member of a lvl7+ tracker.

I used to want to be a member of a community, and found what I was looking for in a tracker that is lower down so I think people need to be a bit more realistic, but can't see that happening.

Squizzle can i has a bigger dick?

on a serious note..u can't trust anyone to tell if they are for real or not

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I hate all the traders and I want to chop their heads off. I love communities, can i pls join FSC now?

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If you want to join there.
Then you have some serious booty to kiss:D

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Since you are a trader, forcus, I am not surprised with this answer :ghey:

i think getting into a torrent site is like meeting a new gal and wanting get inside her...
all thou everyone know what it feels to be inside once u do it the first time with some gal...still most want to do it with every single gal thats available.....
when some one says u cant get a particular gal because she is high level and her invites are close....it becomes even more precious and necessary....
u gotta have her at any cost some pay for it,some become friends and get inside her....

bottom line is every one wants in .... some try and succeed and put it in their signature some dont...

everyone wants to be exclusive thats y higher the level longer the foreplay....and the lies get more believable...and i guess it helps if u r an anti-trader most would believe anything u say
people lose interest once they get in...or once they are mature enough to know..." its all the same, they all have the same content"


most of the people who want an invite are in their teens and are men,,,,thats y the comparision between a torrent site and women.

i hope what i wrote was readable and someone could understand it, otherwise forgive my grammer and spellings

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i think getting into a torrent site is like meeting a new gal and wanting get inside her...all thou everyone know what it feels to be inside once u do it the first time with some gal...still most want to do it with every single gal thats available.....and when some one says u cant get a particular gal because she is high level and her invites are close....it becomes even more precious and necessary....u gotta have her at any cost some pay for it,some become friends and get inside her....bottom line is every one wants in .... some try and succeed and put it in their signature some dont...everyone wants to be exclusive thats y higher the level longer the foreplay....and the lies get more believable...and i guess it helps if u r an anti-trader most would believe anything u say people lose interest once they get in...or once they are mature enough to know..." its all the same, they all have the same content" most of the people who want an invite are in their teens and are men,,,,thats y the comparision between a torrent site and women. i hope what i wrote was readable and someone could understand it, otherwise forgive my grammer and spellings

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hahaha:lol:

That is hilarious!! i hadn't thought of it that way but I suppose it is true

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If you want to join there.
Then you have some serious booty to kiss:D

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Since you are a trader, forcus, I am not surprised with this answer :ghey:

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Since we both like quoting each other, show all of us your rep It's not difficult.

Why are you and certain others so negative to people when asking certain questions In post after post?
I'm betting you won't answer.:ghey:

I think that while trading is a bad thing to do, some people are going way over the top with the 'trader hating'. It seems as though if you have traded in the past, some would consider you sub-human.

Yes it is bad and wrong, but not as bad as many would make you believe.

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I think that while trading is a bad thing to do, some people are going way over the top with the 'trader hating'. It seems as though if you have traded in the past, some would consider you sub-human.

Yes it is bad and wrong, but not as bad as many would make you believe.

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No, No, No.

This is FST, everything has to be black or white - there is no middle-ground.

That is a good point!

I feel the same way. Thing is, nobody gives anyone a chance anymore because of all the BS.

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Ok here is my view:

I do not trade at all. I think that it is wrong and therefore don't do it. I don't make a big deal out of it, because those who do, mostly do it, as you say, to improve their chances of being invited to the tracker they want to get to.

As for the community bit, I think that most of the time it is completely made up and that people want it just to be a member of a high level tracker. However there are some people who genuinely want to be a member of a site because of the community. For example someone made a request for Fsc a while ago, going into detail about why they wanted it due to the cooking forum
/community there. To me this seemed like a real request due to the wanting to be a part of a community. But most of the time it is simply not true, and they just want to be a member of a lvl7+ tracker.

I used to want to be a member of a community, and found what I was looking for in a tracker that is lower down so I think people need to be a bit more realistic, but can't see that happening.

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I think that while trading is a bad thing to do, some people are going way over the top with the 'trader hating'. It seems as though if you have traded in the past, some would consider you sub-human.

Yes it is bad and wrong, but not as bad as many would make you believe.

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No, No, No.

This is FST, everything has to be black or white - there is no middle-ground.

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Does the lords of light control death: No
Does the lords of the Dark control death: No

Death has no masters, he sits on the fence. Waiting, Waiting.
Waiting for those to fall light or dark he has no prefferance, he will claim them for his own.

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No, No, No.

This is FST, everything has to be black or white - there is no middle-ground.

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Does the lords of light control death: No
Does the lords of the Dark control death: No

Death has no masters, he sits on the fence. Waiting, Waiting.
Waiting for those to fall light or dark he has no prefferance, he will claim them for his own.

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Too metaphoric/poetic for me :wacko:

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Originally Posted by forcus

Does the lords of light control death: No
Does the lords of the Dark control death: No

Death has no masters, he sits on the fence. Waiting, Waiting.
Waiting for those to fall light or dark he has no prefferance, he will claim them for his own.

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Too metaphoric/poetic for me :wacko:

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I agree. I don't think I've ever seen FST taken this seriously...

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Originally Posted by forcus

Does the lords of light control death: No
Does the lords of the Dark control death: No

Death has no masters, he sits on the fence. Waiting, Waiting.
Waiting for those to fall light or dark he has no prefferance, he will claim them for his own.

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Too metaphoric/poetic for me :wacko:

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http://i35.tinypic.com/10h59vr.jpg

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Originally Posted by stitched

i think getting into a torrent site is like meeting a new gal and wanting get inside her...
all thou everyone know what it feels to be inside once u do it the first time with some gal...still most want to do it with every single gal thats available.....
when some one says u cant get a particular gal because she is high level and her invites are close....it becomes even more precious and necessary....
u gotta have her at any cost some pay for it,some become friends and get inside her....

bottom line is every one wants in .... some try and succeed and put it in their signature some dont...

everyone wants to be exclusive thats y higher the level longer the foreplay....and the lies get more believable...and i guess it helps if u r an anti-trader most would believe anything u say
people lose interest once they get in...or once they are mature enough to know..." its all the same, they all have the same content"


most of the people who want an invite are in their teens and are men,,,,thats y the comparision between a torrent site and women.

i hope what i wrote was readable and someone could understand it, otherwise forgive my grammer and spellings

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:blink: so the higher level gal you got the higher p**** you got? i definately will have to aim higher than where im currently at then.

btw: its not about the levels.....its about seeing the same people in that particular place :lol:.
a::"hey there, werent you in ftwr too?"
b::"yea, wuzzup"
a::"nothen, leeching"
b::"oh wast it your avatar saw over at ftn"
a::"mmmhmm i finally got to see you there too!"
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:huh:


well i got the highest level gal. shes lvl 9 and her content's awesome!

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You guys for real or do you say it in the hope that trackers will be more willing to accept your requests for invites etc?

Explain to me the mentality, if you will.

"I want that tracker for the community, it's nothing to do with it being a high level tracker that I want because it's unattainable, honest" is a hell of a cliché these days :)

Enlighten me peeps :)

//Squizzle

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The Irony is How can someone TRULY be part of their community, if there have NOT been in there before?.......
All the Info One has is the Tracker Ranking and rumors. The rarity of the Tracker, makes it even MORE a Curiosity, to secure the Tracker.
Since P2P is mostly about community and it would be a Great "Line" to use to get in.....:whistling
If one really wants to be part of a Community, there are Countless Warez Forums and P2P communities to register.:yup:



Bottom line, I think is a bunch of B.S.......I think is more important to prove oneself in just one community and hope that reputation can spread, instead of saying , >> " I want to be part of XYZ community......."

After all, the Tracker finds U, Not the other way around.........
:)

FST is a community of sorts.
Unfortunately many don't view it that way and only see it as a means to an end point taken and driven home..

But as I said before ad infinitum although FST is looked down upon in certain circles and perhaps justifiably so I don't believe for a minute that there aren't just as many douches on most trackers as there are here so I suggest the condescension belongs elsewhere.

Bejesus Christ I'm defending these assholes now.:blink:

Look basically everyone who says that they want a high level tracker for community is lying. There are a few genuine ones, but only a few. Unless someone give a really good reason why they think the community at a certain site is so good, they are lying!!

As pointed out ,until a person experiences it firsthand no one truly knows what a tracker's community is really like.
So words to the contrary ukgenius you are essentially saying everyone is to some extent is lying.
I can live with that.Need creates action.
Blame the rule makers.

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no, imo, there are not; it is a cop-out in most if not all cases

in my experience, the luck-of-the-draw get into the trackers they want by knowing someone that is involved, or they like music, or they have a phat pipe or something that is tangible

in regards to communities (minus other factors), there are communities anywhere and everywhere; look around, get involved, work genuinely with what you have, not falsely for what you want

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There are a few genuine ones, but look around, get involved, work genuinely with what you have, not falsely for what you want

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i agree, never traded never will
above the influence

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You guys for real or do you say it in the hope that trackers will be more willing to accept your requests for invites etc?

Explain to me the mentality, if you will.

"I want that tracker for the community, it's nothing to do with it being a high level tracker that I want because it's unattainable, honest" is a hell of a cliché these days :)

Enlighten me peeps :)

//Squizzle

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This is so fuck**** true, there's so many lames who want some trackers to say "i've ***, i've **-*.... weee". Oh please F*ck off. Could u please tell me the difference betwen Demonoid and ***? Oh god. If u want to join a tracker u have some reasons for that mine ones are basicly: to find some files where i don't find in another place. in the beggining i've that "lamme" side in me but now i'm seeing that the best way is get friends work on your accounts download u need and upload u download, if some highlevel staff member likes you they will ask u to join in.

Another think is the buffer on accounts. Another lame side i have in past. your higher buffer don't make u one hero, just one "n00b" with some Terabytes of upload.

I do something's wrong,but what we would be without mistakes. Just a advice to keep your torrenting life in safe.

//pLugiN

What a great way to pump your post count pLugiN, bump a 4 months thread. :blink:

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What a great way to pump your post count pLugiN, bump a 4 months thread. :blink:

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I think don't do anything wrong.

//pLugiN

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What a great way to pump your post count pLugiN, bump a 4 months thread. :blink:

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I think don't do anything wrong.

//pLugiN

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You're not doing anything wrong, pLugiN.
Don't care about Dr.Lecter, he's just another bitchy anti-trader. :naughty:

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What a great way to pump your post count pLugiN, bump a 4 months thread. :blink:

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And if he made a new thread, you probably would have told him to search. amirite?

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What a great way to pump your post count pLugiN, bump a 4 months thread. :blink:

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And if he made a new thread, you probably would have told him to search. amirite?

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Good point. :lol: You're right. :cool:

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Another day at FST and another stupid topic.

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Thank you for taking the time to enlighten us with your unique point of view.
It was a great read, but would you care to elaborate for us on what exactly your opinion is on the posted topic, since I assume you wouldn't be posting here if you didn't have one?

As for community lovers and anti-traders, I think its just another way of getting what you want. Not to say that their true motives are bad, they could be looking for security for example, but that is also a played out reason when most people read it.

There are those who want a community tracker, and there are those who say they want a community tracker.

Some are genuine, and some aren't. Problem is, how do you tell which is which. The answer is that you can't. The only true way to discover if someone is genuine is to give them the chance to prove, one way or another, whether they deserved the invite.