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I notice this clip doesn't include a devastating Olbermann rebuttal...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nBdH7emDj0
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I think ole Newt is positioning himself for a 2012 run at the Presidency.
Be interesting to see what his opinion of Sarah is then.
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clocker
I think ole Newt is positioning himself for a 2012 run at the Presidency.
Be interesting to see what his opinion of Sarah is then.
Newt will not have satisfied his penance by then.
My opinion. :whistling
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And Palin will be a humorous blip in our rear view mirrors.
My opinion.
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clocker
And Palin will be a humorous blip in our rear view mirrors.
My opinion.
I pained me to see j2 say that Palin was a great VP pick. Just once, I wanted to be right about something and I thought for sure he wouldn't like her.
The funny thing is that I don't think she dumb. The thing is, she probably is a great governor-she's a great local for the small populace of Alaska.
She's a horrible VP pick though. She is a female Quayle, hopefully without a win.
Oh jeez....
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She should never talk to Couric again. Direct link (the McCain camp won't allow hotlinking) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azaNxqfnI7c
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It pained you?
Do you think me a chauvinist.
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j2k4
It pained you?
Do you think me a chauvinist.
No zer-ree. I just thought you a bit smarter is all.
The Palin pick is an insult. It's a pick that appeals to the stupid or those that want to appeal to the stupid.
Go to 2:27....
[youtube]tyDgMBtxLVQ[/youtube]
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Busyman
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
It pained you?
Do you think me a chauvinist.
No zer-ree. I just thought you a bit smarter is all.
The Palin pick is an insult. It's a pick that appeals to the stupid or those that want to appeal to the stupid.
Go to 2:27....
[youtube]tyDgMBtxLVQ[/youtube]
You really can't see the forest for the trees, can you.
I would not have thought you'd buy the cheap cultural elitism Obama is selling, but there you have it.
I'll bet you don't like her accent, either. :whistling
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
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Busyman
No zer-ree. I just thought you a bit smarter is all.
The Palin pick is an insult. It's a pick that appeals to the stupid or those that want to appeal to the stupid.
Go to 2:27....
[youtube]tyDgMBtxLVQ[/youtube]
You really can't see the forest for the trees, can you.
I would not have thought you'd buy the cheap cultural elitism Obama is selling, but there you have it.
I'll bet you don't like her accent, either. :whistling
What elitism?
You think Mrs. Palin talking about "small town values" makes her not elite?
To be honest, her accent coupled with her skating around questions or reciting her coached answers makes her sound annoying.
It's a nightmare even imagining her talking to any foreign dignitary that understands English.
Let's not talk too much about McCain, a man that left his ailing wife for a much younger, richer woman while he was still married.
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I thought the suggestion that Palin has foreign policy experience because of Alaska's proximity to Russia was as silly as we could get.
Then the suggestion that McCain humping a Brazilian woman back in the 50s is part of his foreign policy experience came forth.
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Busyman
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j2k4
You really can't see the forest for the trees, can you.
I would not have thought you'd buy the cheap cultural elitism Obama is selling, but there you have it.
I'll bet you don't like her accent, either. :whistling
What elitism?
You think Mrs. Palin talking about "small town values" makes her not elite?
To be honest, her accent coupled with her skating around questions or reciting her coached answers makes her sound annoying.
It's a nightmare even imagining her talking to any foreign dignitary that understands English.
Let's not talk too much about McCain, a man that left his ailing wife for a much younger, richer woman while he was still married.
Let me put it to you this way, then:
Your elitism forestalls any idea of voting for anyone who is not Harvard or Yale educated.
You have occasionally complained about Washington insiders, yes?
Do you realize at all that until you break that particular chain, the best possible scenario is more of the same?
You will be missing a golden opportunity, my friend. :whistling
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
Your elitism forestalls any idea of voting for anyone who is not Harvard or Yale educated.
My elitism forstalls the idea of voting for anyone who is not educated, period.
This extends to both McCain and Palin, the former because he had the opportunity for the best education possible (as did Bush actually) and squandered it due to a sense of entitlement and sheer laziness, the latter because she suggests that aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue, in fact, excelling beyond the level of the "common man" is suspect and deserving of scorn.
Glorifying the lowest common demoninator seems like a cheap and tawdry goal, easily achieved and worth nothing when attained.
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clocker
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
Your elitism forestalls any idea of voting for anyone who is not Harvard or Yale educated.
My elitism forstalls the idea of voting for anyone who is not educated, period.
This extends to both McCain and Palin, the former because he had the opportunity for the best education possible (as did Bush actually) and squandered it due to a sense of entitlement and sheer laziness, the latter because she suggests that aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue, in fact, excelling beyond the level of the "common man" is suspect and deserving of scorn.
Glorifying the lowest common demoninator seems like a cheap and tawdry goal, easily achieved and worth nothing when attained.
You don't get an exceptional education at ivy league schools, you get plugged into the network.
That's the problem.
Please explain your "aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue" thingie.
Have I missed something.
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j2k4
You don't get an exceptional education at ivy league schools, you get plugged into the network.
That's the problem.
Nonsense.
Not everyone- in fact, only a small minority- of Ivy League attendees are "Skull and Bones" types, the majority are simply interested in getting the best education possible.
You really want to compare the quality of education between Wasilla Community College and Yale?
Furthermore, re: your comment about being "plugged into the network"- look at Palin's record and actions beginning as mayor of Wasilla. She shows a clear preference for replacing officials/functionaries based on friendship rather than qualifications.
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Please explain your "aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue" thingie.
Have I missed something.
Yes, apparently you have.
Like every public utterance SP has made in the past few weeks.
The "media elite" have been practising "gotcha journalism" for simply trying to parse the meagre few sentences we've been allowed to hear from the horse's mouth.
The woman is almost incoherent and, were one to base one's opinion solely on the printed record, it could reasonably be concluded she's functionally retarded.
Palin glorifies her lack of knowledge as making her "more like us" rather than a failure of preparation or lack of interest.
It's one thing to focus on the big picture and refuse to be mired by detail, but even that approach requires a basic familiarity with the details involved...analogous to the tenet "You can't successfully break the rules till you know what they are".
Basically, I don't want me running for office, I want someone better.
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j2k4
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Busyman
What elitism?
You think Mrs. Palin talking about "small town values" makes her not elite?
To be honest, her accent coupled with her skating around questions or reciting her coached answers makes her sound annoying.
It's a nightmare even imagining her talking to any foreign dignitary that understands English.
Let's not talk too much about McCain, a man that left his ailing wife for a much younger, richer woman while he was still married.
Let me put it to you this way, then:
Your elitism forestalls any idea of voting for anyone who is not Harvard or Yale educated.
You have occasionally complained about Washington insiders, yes?
Do you realize at all that until you break
that particular chain, the best
possible scenario is
more of the same?
You will be missing a golden opportunity, my friend. :whistling
Wow, so now a Harvard or Yale graduate is a bad thing?
Tbh, I forgot that Obama went to Harvard (or was it Yale)?
Now you bring it up, conveniently, as a downgrade.
I heard shit about this from you when Bush was running and he went to Yale and Harvard ffs.
You are the ultimate party-pusher. Whatever your party is doing, it's great. Whatever another party is doing, is shit. You are a inconsistent consistent.
You remind of a fella I had minor trouble with that knew just enough legalese to get himself and others in trouble. Underneath it all, he had no substance when dealing with a straight talking judge.
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
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Originally Posted by
clocker
My elitism forstalls the idea of voting for anyone who is not educated, period.
This extends to both McCain and Palin, the former because he had the opportunity for the best education possible (as did Bush actually) and squandered it due to a sense of entitlement and sheer laziness, the latter because she suggests that aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue, in fact, excelling beyond the level of the "common man" is suspect and deserving of scorn.
Glorifying the lowest common demoninator seems like a cheap and tawdry goal, easily achieved and worth nothing when attained.
You don't get an exceptional education at ivy league schools, you get plugged into the network.
That's the problem.
Please explain your
"aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue" thingie.
Have I missed something.
Oh so Bush got plugged into the network? No Ivy League schools provide a good education? So it's a network of dumbdumbs?
I have 3 friends that went to Harvard and they are quite smart. If they got plugged into a network that wants smart people, so be it.
Your generalizations make you come of as some backwoods resentful militia man.
Yes everyone that goes to Harvard may not come out the brightest mainly due to the fact that certain folks should have never been admitted. Some get admitted due to who they are.
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[youtube]Uvs2g5Nj0NI[/youtube]
That's funny but ermmm what does that have to do with.....oh nvm.
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
You don't get an exceptional education at ivy league schools, you get plugged into the network.
That's the problem.
Please explain your "aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue" thingie.
Have I missed something.
Oh so Bush got plugged into the network? No Ivy League schools provide a good education? So it's a network of dumbdumbs?
I have 3 friends that went to Harvard and they are quite smart. If they got plugged into a network that wants smart people, so be it.
Your generalizations make you come of as some backwoods resentful militia man.
Yes everyone that goes to Harvard may not come out the brightest mainly due to the fact that certain folks should have never been admitted. Some get admitted due to who they are.
Yes, Bush got plugged in.
Just like your boys Kerry and Gore.
So, you are of the opinion an excellent education cannot be had outside the ivys?
BTW-
Is this-
"Your generalizations make you come of as some backwoods resentful militia man".
-not a generalization?
You are practicing an elitism you can't afford, sir.
Perhaps you could grovel before one of your three (count 'em, three) Harvard buddies to parse your posting for you.
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j2k4
So, you are of the opinion an excellent education cannot be had outside the ivys?
Why must this be either/or?
A good education is available any number of places, including the Ivy League and the public library.
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Originally Posted by
clocker
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j2k4
So, you are of the opinion an excellent education cannot be had outside the ivys?
Why must this be either/or?
A good education is available any number of places,
including the Ivy League and the public library.
I'll grant you that; however, the only things that make the Ivy league exceptional are the cost and the networking.
Oh, and the snob appeal.
Period.
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So it's just not possible that an Ivy league school might have a better teacher, better facilities, more extensive library or in fact, anything that could be considered "superior" to another school?
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clocker
So it's just not possible that an Ivy league school might have a better teacher, better facilities, more extensive library or in fact, anything that could be considered "superior" to another school?
Ah, elitism again.
I believe the ultimate product is more a function of the human ingredient; in fact, you intimated as much in your own postage, while denigrating Palin for having attended "Wasilla Community College", when in fact she graduated from the University of Idaho.
Harvard and Yale are fine schools; there is no denying the fact - but, as you yourself said, a fine education can be had at any public library, some of which are certainly superior to others...so what, ultimately, is your point?
I'm guessing you find her accent off-putting. :whistling
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Your reading comprehension skills are deteriorating.
I never implied or intimated that Palin attended Wasilla Community College.
And, I've never said that a fine education is only available from an Ivy but, unlike you, I allow the possibility that someone who has attended one might have walked away with more than a secret handshake and a sense of entitlement.
My point (at least part of it) is the Republican penchant for availing themselves- typically through family connections- of the advantages of finer institutions and then turning around and bemoaning the "elitism" that apparently runs rampant in them...although somehow magically not infecting them.
This dichotomy is also evidenced in the way Repubs like to treat New York.
During, and even today, the events of Sept. 11, New Yorkers were heroes and the victims of terrorists.
In any other context except the 9/11 attacks, New York embodies all that Repubs find repellent about East coast, big city, liberal values.
This whole "Main Street, small town values" schtick is just pure unadulterated crap.
80% of Americans live in large urban areas- Opie has not been representative of the average American since BEFORE the Andy Griffith Show. Neither Bush or McCain grew up in anything like a stereotypical small town, both were children of priveledge and only wear the trappings of small town America out of political expediency.
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Originally Posted by
clocker
Your reading comprehension skills are deteriorating.
I never implied or intimated that Palin attended Wasilla Community College.
And, I've never said that a fine education is only available from an Ivy but, unlike you, I allow the possibility that someone who has attended one might have walked away with more than a secret handshake and a sense of entitlement.
My point (at least part of it) is the Republican penchant for availing themselves- typically through family connections- of the advantages of finer institutions and then turning around and bemoaning the "elitism" that apparently runs rampant in them...although somehow magically not infecting them.
This dichotomy is also evidenced in the way Repubs like to treat New York.
During, and even today, the events of Sept. 11, New Yorkers were heroes and the victims of terrorists.
In any other context except the 9/11 attacks, New York embodies all that Repubs find repellent about East coast, big city, liberal values.
This whole "Main Street, small town values" schtick is just pure unadulterated crap.
80% of Americans live in large urban areas- Opie has not been representative of the average American since BEFORE the Andy Griffith Show. Neither Bush or McCain grew up in anything like a stereotypical small town, both were children of priveledge and only wear the trappings of small town America out of political expediency.
So we hicks are to be excluded from the process.
Well, then.
Secession could become an issue before long, I think, should the rube population decide to charge you urbanites directly for the resources we're sitting on - you know, the oil, the water...stuff like that.
BTW-
According to the census bureau, you are abusing, or at least attempting to mislead, with your statement as to U.S. population:
URBAN AND RURAL DEFINITIONS
Source: US Census Bureau
Released: Oct. 1995
URBAN AND RURAL
The Census Bureau defines "urban" for the 1990 census as comprising all territory, population, and housing units in urbanized areas and in places of 2,500 or more persons outside urbanized areas. More specifically, "urban" consists of territory, persons, and housing units in:
1. Places of 2,500 or more persons incorporated as cities, villages, boroughs (except in Alaska and New York), and towns (except in the six New England States, New York, and Wisconsin), but excluding the rural portions of "extended cities."
2. Census designated places of 2,500 or more persons.
3. Other territory, incorporated or unincorporated, included in urbanized areas.
Ffs, I fucking live in an urban area. :whistling
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j2k4
So we hicks are to be excluded from the process.
Well, then.
Secession could become an issue before long, I think, should the rube population decide to charge you urbanites directly for the resources we're sitting on - you know, the oil, the water...stuff like that.
What?
If there is a connection between my post and your response, I fail to see it.
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BTW-
According to the census bureau, you are abusing, or at least attempting to mislead, with your statement as to U.S. population:
URBAN AND RURAL DEFINITIONS
Source: US Census Bureau
Released: Oct. 1995
URBAN AND RURAL
The Census Bureau defines "urban" for the 1990 census as comprising all territory, population, and housing units in urbanized areas and in places of 2,500 or more persons outside urbanized areas. More specifically, "urban" consists of territory, persons, and housing units in:
1. Places of 2,500 or more persons incorporated as cities, villages, boroughs (except in Alaska and New York), and towns (except in the six New England States, New York, and Wisconsin), but excluding the rural portions of "extended cities."
2. Census designated places of 2,500 or more persons.
3. Other territory, incorporated or unincorporated, included in urbanized areas.
Ffs, I fucking live in an urban area. :whistling
Actually, I don't believe you do.
Your "salt-o-the-earth" status remains intact, although of increasingly dubious value.
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clocker
Your reading comprehension skills are deteriorating.
I never implied or intimated that Palin attended Wasilla Community College.
What was this in aid of, then?
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clocker
You really want to compare the quality of education between Wasilla Community College and Yale?
If you were being other-than-literal, then I guess I am, too.
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clocker
This dichotomy is also evidenced in the way Repubs like to treat New York.
During, and even today, the events of Sept. 11, New Yorkers were heroes and the victims of terrorists.
In any other context except the 9/11 attacks, New York embodies all that Repubs find repellent about East coast, big city, liberal values.
The people of New York are fine, and easily appreciated at non-critical times as well as in the wake of such as 9/11.
You fail to differentiate between the individual and the political face of New York.
I don't recall anybody saying, "Holy shit, did you see how the democrat/republican party kicked ass after the WTC came down".
They have republicans there, too, although you may think a New York republican to be vastly superior/inferior to the rural specie - I don't pretend to know.
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Originally Posted by
clocker
This whole "Main Street, small town values" schtick is just pure unadulterated crap.
80% of Americans live in large urban areas- Opie has not been representative of the average American since BEFORE the Andy Griffith Show. Neither Bush or McCain grew up in anything like a stereotypical small town, both were children of priveledge and only wear the trappings of small town America out of political expediency.
How do you feel about Broadway, big city values?
Are they somehow superior in ways not reflected in sheer numbers?
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Originally Posted by
clocker
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Originally Posted by j2k4
BTW-
According to the census bureau, you are abusing, or at least attempting to mislead, with your statement as to U.S. population:
URBAN AND RURAL DEFINITIONS
Source: US Census Bureau
Released: Oct. 1995
URBAN AND RURAL
The Census Bureau defines "urban" for the 1990 census as comprising all territory, population, and housing units in urbanized areas and in places of 2,500 or more persons outside urbanized areas. More specifically, "urban" consists of territory, persons, and housing units in:
1. Places of 2,500 or more persons incorporated as cities, villages, boroughs (except in Alaska and New York), and towns (except in the six New England States, New York, and Wisconsin), but excluding the rural portions of "extended cities."
2. Census designated places of 2,500 or more persons.
3. Other territory, incorporated or unincorporated, included in urbanized areas.
Ffs, I fucking live in an urban area. :whistling
Actually, I don't believe you do.
Your "salt-o-the-earth" status remains intact, although of increasingly dubious value.
You would dare argue with the census bureau?
Back up your "80% urban" claim, if you please?
BTW-
I eschew salt on the orders of my medic, so my value is static, unlike our currency.
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
Oh so Bush got plugged into the network? No Ivy League schools provide a good education? So it's a network of dumbdumbs?
I have 3 friends that went to Harvard and they are quite smart. If they got plugged into a network that wants smart people, so be it.
Your generalizations make you come of as some backwoods resentful militia man.
Yes everyone that goes to Harvard may not come out the brightest mainly due to the fact that certain folks should have never been admitted. Some get admitted due to who they are.
Yes, Bush got plugged in.
Just like your boys Kerry and Gore.
So, you are of the opinion an excellent education cannot be had outside the ivys?
Where'd you even think to pull that one out of your ass? Also there was no mention of Bush's plug-ins by you then so why mention Obama's possible plug-ins now. Bush was plugged in before Harvard and Yale.
BTW-
Is this-
"Your generalizations make you come of as some backwoods resentful militia man".
-not a generalization?
Oh no it is. I'll repeat it. Your generalizations make you come off as some backwoods resentful militia man.
You are practicing an elitism you can't afford, sir.
Perhaps you could grovel before one of your three (count 'em,
three) Harvard buddies to parse your posting for you.
Perhaps you could grovel on your knees and stuff even more beef in your mouth.
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
Yes, Bush got plugged in.
Just like your boys Kerry and Gore.
So, you are of the opinion an excellent education cannot be had outside the ivys?
Where'd you even think to pull that one out of your ass? Also there was no mention of Bush's plug-ins by you then so why mention Obama's possible plug-ins now. Bush was plugged in before Harvard and Yale.
BTW-
Is this-
"Your generalizations make you come of as some backwoods resentful militia man".
-not a generalization?
Oh no it is. I'll repeat it. Your generalizations make you come off as some backwoods resentful militia man.
You are practicing an elitism you can't afford, sir.
Perhaps you could grovel before one of your three (count 'em, three) Harvard buddies to parse your posting for you.
Perhaps you could grovel on your knees and stuff even more beef in your mouth.
I only eat pussy, sorry. :dabs:
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
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Busyman
Perhaps you could grovel on your knees and stuff even more beef in your mouth.
I only eat pussy, sorry. :dabs:
Sorry? I'm not the one having you burst at the cheeks with beef. If you eat pussy, it must be male cats.
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
Perhaps you could grovel on your knees and stuff even more beef in your mouth.
I only eat pussy, sorry. :dabs:
Never heard of beef curtains then?:naughty:
http://www.americansubstandard.com/?...eef%20Curtains
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
I only eat pussy, sorry. :dabs:
Sorry? I'm not the one having you burst at the cheeks with beef. If you eat pussy, it must be male cats.
Honestly, where do you get this stuff. :rolleyes:
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Investigation finds Palin abused power in 'Troopergate
By James V. Grimaldi and Kimberly Kindy
Washington Post
Article Launched: 10/10/2008 07:47:29 PM PDT
WASHINGTON — An Alaska state legislative investigator found Friday that Gov. Sarah Palin abused her executive power when she and her husband engaged in a campaign to oust her former brother-in-law from the state police force.
In a lengthy report released in Anchorage, Stephen Branchflower found that Palin also improperly allowed her husband, Todd, to use the governor's office to pursue a personal vendetta against the trooper.
"Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: To get Trooper Michael Wooten fired," said the report released by a bipartisan legislative committee.
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Originally Posted by Time magazine
Did Governor Sarah Palin abuse the power of her office in trying to get her former brother-in-law, State Trooper Mike Wooten, fired? Yes.
Was the refusal to fire Mike Wooten the reason Palin fired Commissioner of Public Safety Walt Monegan? Not exclusively, and it was within her rights as the states' chief executive to fire him for just about any reason, even without cause.
Those answers were expected, given that most of the best pieces of evidence have been part of the public record for months. The result is not a mortal wound to Palin, nor does it put her at much risk of being forced to leave the ticket her presence succeeded in energizing.
But the Branchflower report still makes for good reading, if only because it convincingly answers a question nobody had even thought to ask: Is the Palin administration shockingly amateurish? Yes, it is. Disturbingly so.
The 263 pages of the report show a co-ordinated application of pressure on Monegan so transparent and ham-handed that it was almost certain to end in public embarrassment for the governor. The only surprise is that Troopergate is national news, not just a sorry piece of political gristle to be chewed on by Alaska politicos over steaks at Anchorage's Club Paris.
A harsh verdict? Consider the report's findings. Not only did people at almost every level of the Palin administration engage in repeated inappropriate contact with Walt Monegan and other high-ranking officials at the Department of Public Safety, but Monegan and his peers constantly warned these Palin disciples that the contact was inappropriate and probably unlawful. Still, the emails and calls continued — in at least one instance on recorded state trooper phone lines.
The state's head of personnel, Annette Kreitzer, called Monegan and had to be warned that personnel issues were confidential. The state's attorney general, Talis Colberg, called Monegan and had to be reminded that the call was putting both men in legal jeopardy, should Wooten decide to sue. The governor's chief of staff met with Monegan and had to be reminded by Monegan that, "This conversation is discoverable ... You don't want Wooten to own your house, do you?"
Monegan consistently emerges as the adult in these conversations, while the Palin camp displays a childish impetuousness and sense of entitlement.
One telling exchange: Deputy Commissioner John Glass, who worked under Monegan, told Branchflower he was "livid" after a Palin staffer, Frank Bailey, went outside the chain of command and called a state trooper in far-off Ketchikan to complain about Wooten. Why had Bailey called the trooper? Because, Bailey said, this trooper had gone to church with Sarah Palin back in Wasilla, so he felt "comfortable" talking to him about Wooten. Glass, too, tried to sound the warning that continuing to pressure anyone and everyone in the matter would end in "an unbelievable amount of embarrassment for the Governor and everybody else".
Yeah, she's good.
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The sum of it is she abused her power while doing nothing wrong.
The media reports the former and ignores the latter.
Of course, this arouses no one's curiosity.
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Well it appears this is indeed a historic election. The first African American running as the candidate for a major party and the first in American history in which both candidates on the same ticket were found to have violated ethics standards before their possible election.
I can't claim credit for pointing out the latter, I heard it mentioned on the news this morning.
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devilsadvocate
Well it appears this is indeed a historic election. The first African American running as the candidate for a major party and the first in American history in which both candidates on the same ticket were found to have violated ethics standards before their possible election.
I can't claim credit for pointing out the latter, I heard it mentioned on the news this morning.
So, you watch OTF, eh?
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It was on the radio. What is OTF?
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devilsadvocate
It was on the radio.
Must have been NPR, huh?
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J2 has killed all the messengers and yet the bad news keeps coming.
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devilsadvocate
Well it appears this is indeed a historic election. The first African American running as the candidate for a major party and the first in American history in which both candidates on the same ticket were found to have violated ethics standards before their possible election.
I can't claim credit for pointing out the latter, I heard it mentioned on the news this morning.
nvm