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Originally Posted by vidcc

Hobbes answered this before i could because i was listening to my daughter reading for her homework...but i agree with what hobbes said. With an addition, "young adults" can be confused but i feel this is probably slight bi-sexual confusion, as this would allow for hetrosexuality or homosexuality, either way to be "right".

Confusion is caused because they are brought up to believe that hetrosexuality is the only normal thing...so they are confused wondering why they are attracted to the same sex.
I didn't go through this because i am hetrosexual and have never been or could ever be made to be attracted to the same sex.

what did you expect? perhaps you felt i would have knowledge of the circumstances upon which this occured..... is a porn actress a lesbian because she did a lesbian scene for pay, if she wouldn't do it for fun outside of work?

It was a silly question, and that's why along with the blowjob question i didn't bother answering until you insisted.

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Silly but yet it happens alot in the real world. Get out of the petri dish.

By your definition if a woman starts to find another woman attractive she was always gay or bi. I don't buy it. It ain't logical.

These are not small instances. This happens all the time.

Again get out of the petri dish.

I love this one too........

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Originally Posted by vidcc

With an addition, "young adults" can be confused but i feel this is probably slight bi-sexual confusion, as this would allow for hetrosexuality or homosexuality, either way to be "right".

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Is the chemical that regulates sexuality going haywire due to puberty? :lol:

I'm dying ova hare!! :lol: :lol:

what keeps happening to my post?

plz dont tell me that its against the board rules to post wut i posted cuz OMG

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Silly but yet it happens alot in the real world. Get out of the petri dish.

By your definition if a woman starts to find another woman attractive she was always gay or bi. I don't buy it. It ain't logical.

These are not small instances. This happens all the time.

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so it happens a lot...you are the one making assumptions, have you ever thought that homosexuality or bisexuality may not be as unusual as you think?...why would i need to change my view because of this, not one of your "examples" (although it's just one rehashed with the odd word changed) could be proof that they weren't born gay/bi.

why always think i am using "science" for my opinion? i base it on what i see and science backs me up sometimes. we could contradict every "logic" you come up with without refering to scientific studies.

Nature is not logical by the way.

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Is the chemical that regulates sexuality going haywire due to puberty? :lol:

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puberty is when the sexual hormones that have been dormant in an immature body start to kick in... that's why most "confusion" happens at that stage...confusion because they are not feeling the way they are told they should be.

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I'm dying ova hare!! :lol: :lol:

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why do you want to change the color of a rabbit eggs?

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Again get out of the petri dish.

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as soon as you get your head out of your anus i shall comply :lol:

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Originally Posted by vidcc

so it happens a lot...you are the one making assumptions, have you ever thought that homosexuality or bisexuality may not be as unusual as you think?...why would i need to change my view because of this, not one of your "examples" (although it's just one rehashed with the odd word changed) could be proof that they weren't born gay/bi.

I never said homosexuality is unusual. My "examples" offer way more than the matter you are trying to rationalize one's feelings.

why always think i am using "science" for my opinion? i base it on what i see and science backs me up sometimes. we could contradict every "logic" you come up with without refering to scientific studies.

Do it then.

Nature is not logical by the way.

Most of the time it is. That's why are still breathing with the rest of us. It's why many things are explainable.

puberty is when the sexual hormones that have been dormant in an immature body start to kick in... that's why most "confusion" happens at that stage...confusion because they are not feeling the way they are told they should be.

There are too many instances of this "confusion" after puberty and into adulthood. It also sounds like you back up and are not now refuting what I said about "childrens" feelings and homosexuality

why do you want to change the color of a rabbit eggs?

For easter, dumbass

as soon as you get your head out of your anus i shall comply :lol:

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It smells better than the bullshit you spout off.

Oh and suck dick.

There are too many variables to sexual attraction.....body type, gender, race, eye color, hair color, smell, height, etc.... for you to pigeon hole just...gender........as the trump card. You haven't realized science cannot always explain......preference.

Ok we have pigeon holed sexual attraction, next up is jealousy. :dry:

i didn't pidgeon hole anything...you assumed i have....nor have i set a hard indisbutable fact for every case. Yes there are many variables in sexual attraction but we are talking sexuality...not prefering blondes.
Homosexuals have physical preferences just as hetrosexuals do...the difference is we are talking gender "preference"...But then i don't believe sexuality is a preference... for me to accept that i would have to admit it's a choice...and i don't believe it is.

your "logic" of liking the color blue is unconnected to what the debate is about. you could say you like blondes... but you like blonde WOMEN, not Blonde MEN.

You have chosen to not accept anyone elses "logic" and state that they haven't come up with a counter... What of the times people pointed out gays resulting from conservative hetrosexual upbringing ?

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Originally Posted by vidcc

i didn't pidgeon hole anything...you assumed i have....nor have i set a hard indisbutable fact for every case. Yes there are many variables in sexual attraction but we are talking sexuality...not prefering blondes.
Homosexuals have physical preferences just as hetrosexuals do...the difference is we are talking gender "preference"...But then i don't believe sexuality is a preference... for me to accept that i would have to admit it's a choice...and i don't believe it is.



your "logic" of liking the color blue is unconnected to what the debate is about. you could say you like blondes... but you like blonde WOMEN, not Blonde MEN.

You have chosen to not accept anyone elses "logic" and state that they haven't come up with a counter... What of the times people pointed out gays resulting from conservative hetrosexual upbringing ?

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Gender, body type, etc. relate to likes and dislikes, do they not?

For what reason is sexual gender different? A lesbian can explain what exactly they like about a woman. A bisexual woman can explain both.

Yet they are separated by your label due to science.

Do you think a straight TV executive knows how to pick an attractive man for the screen?

Could you?

you are arguing what's pleasing to the eye... we are talking sexuality.... different things

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Originally Posted by vidcc

you are arguing what's pleasing to the eye... we are talking sexuality.... different things

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It's relative obviously.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Gender, body type, etc. relate to likes and dislikes, do they not?

For what reason is sexual gender different? A lesbian can explain what exactly they like about a woman. A bisexual woman can explain both.

Yet they are separated by your label due to science.

Do you think a straight TV executive knows how to pick an attractive man for the screen?

Could you?

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I think this is another relevant point.

Yes, I can look at men and determine whether they are handsome or not. That is aesthetics.

Guess what, no arousal, none.

Although I can appreciate physical beauty, regardless the gender, my mind is aroused by women and it views handsome men as "the competition".

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Originally Posted by hobbes

I think this is another relevant point.

Yes, I can look at men and determine whether they are handsome or not. That is aesthetics.

Guess what, no arousal, none.

Although I can appreciate physical beauty, regardless the gender, my mind is aroused by women and it views handsome men as "the competition".

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That's pretty good hobble.

However, you could also appreciate a beautiful woman and not get aroused. :no:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

That's pretty good hobble.

You could also appreciate a beautiful woman and not get aroused. :no:

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How? I have no control over that, it just happens. :devil:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

It's relative obviously.

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It relates in the same way as your blowjob question. You like getting blown...but only by women.... It is all part of preference that goes with sexuality, but it's not sexuality.

Many men have a thing for garters and stockings...as long as they are worn by women.... the same men wouldn't find the attire at all appealing if worn by a man.

your points have all been about attachments that go with sexual instincts.

All your "life logic" examples, such as the liking football or the color blue are irrelevent. Sexuality is an instinct, your examples are of man made activities or asthetics. It's not an instinct to like watching football because football doesn't exist in nature.

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Originally Posted by vidcc

It relates in the same way as your blowjob question. You like getting blown...but only by women.... It is all part of preference that goes with sexuality, but it's not sexuality.


Many men have a thing for garters and stockings...as long as they are worn by women.... the same men wouldn't find the attire at all appealing if worn by a man.

your points have all been about attachments that go with sexual instincts.

All your "life logic" examples, such as the liking football or the color blue are irrelevent. Sexuality is an instinct, your examples are of man made activities or asthetics. It's not an instinct to like watching football because football doesn't exist in nature.

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How a woman looks is part of sexuality. You conveniently call it aesthetics. Ok it is and it's part of sexuality. It's instinct to fuck and that's usually after one "discovers one's self"....you get that sensation.

Lay down naked and tied up, a woman is coming in to give you knobjob, you are blindfolded and she will not speak......................

hetrosexual men don't find every woman attractive....does that mean they are not hetrosexual?. of course not because it's asthetics, not sexuality

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Originally Posted by vidcc

hetrosexual men don't find every woman attractive....does that mean they are not hetrosexual?. of course not because it's asthetics, not sexuality

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Who said they weren't heterosexual?

You separate gender as if it's the only thing involved in sexuality when it is just part of it.

Bisexuals are perfect example. They are actually part of two groups yet are made one separate group. This convenient label bears no reference to time frame or age.

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Originally Posted by hobbes

How? I have no control over that, it just happens. :devil:

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Exactly......

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Who said they weren't heterosexual?

You separate gender as if it's the only thing involved in sexuality when it is just part of it.

Bisexuals are perfect example. They are actually part of two groups yet are made one separate group. This convenient label bears no reference to time frame or age.

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I am not separating gender as if it's the only thing that counts...where the hell do you get that from. I made the point because you said sexuality is finding big breasts attractive for example.

Bisexuals run by the same theory as far as I'm concerned...they were born that way. How does bringing them up prove anything to the counter?

Your arguments are getting even more repetitive.


let's stick to the 3 main groups of human sexuality.

1. homosexual...... same sex.... not what the person of the same sex looks like...that's an aesthetic preference of that sex .....not sexuality

2. heterosexual..... opposite sex..... not what the person of the opposite sex looks like...that's an aesthetic preference of that sex..... not sexuality

3. bisexual..... not bothered...not what the person of either sex looks like...that's an aesthetic preference of those sexes..... not sexuality

now I know I repeated that 3 times but then you have repeated the same thing over and over

Why dont you two(Busyman&Hobbes) just get married and close this thread down? Though that would be off topic as I have suspicions as to the gender of Hobbes.:cool:

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Originally Posted by vidcc

I am not separating gender as if it's the only thing that counts...where the hell do you get that from. I made the point because you said sexuality is finding big breasts attractive for example.

Bisexuals run by the same theory as far as I'm concerned...they were born that way. How does bringing them up prove anything to the counter?

Your arguments are getting even more repetitive.


let's stick to the 3 main groups of human sexuality.

1. homosexual...... same sex.... not what the person of the same sex looks like...that's an aesthetic preference of that sex .....not sexuality

2. heterosexual..... opposite sex..... not what the person of the opposite sex looks like...that's an aesthetic preference of that sex..... not sexuality

3. bisexual..... not bothered...not what the person of either sex looks like...that's an aesthetic preference of those sexes..... not sexuality

now I know I repeated that 3 times but then you have repeated the same thing over and over

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You haven't deduced that the 3 groups are labels that are used to describe a behavior...and that is all.

You can't grasp that all human feelings can't be "tracked" into a birthed category.

Aesthetics are part of human sexuality.

Lay down naked and tied up, a woman is coming in to give you a knobjob, you are blindfolded and she will not speak...................... (great fraternity...)

i am not going to repeat myself, it's futile.

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Originally Posted by busyman

Lay down naked and tied up, a woman is coming in to give you a knobjob, you are blindfolded and she will not speak......................

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i have no idea why you keep posting that

'Coz you just hope it will be the girl, and not some bloke that gives you the bj ;)

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Originally Posted by Rat Faced

'Coz you just hope it will be the girl, and not some bloke that gives you the bj ;)

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Rat, you are aight man. ;)

But if you enjoyed that blow job and it WAS a man, would that make you gay?
Would you be repulsed by the idea even tho you enjoyed it?

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

But if you enjoyed that blow job and it WAS a man, would that make you gay?
Would you be repulsed by the idea even tho you enjoyed it?

Jonno :cool:

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Men give better blowjobs. Apparently. :unsure:

For the most part that is possibly true, same as they say a woman can please another woman better than a man. this would be due to each sex knowing how their own bodies work and passing that knowledge into technique. So in theory if you could put a mans knowledge into a woman (If you're hetrosexual) she would possibly perform better than she would with her own knowledge therefore making the technique of a man better than that of a woman. The difference being that if you are hetro you would not enjoy knowing a man is giving you oral sex.

Of course the only people I've ever actually heard say stuff like that are gays, but it kinda has a freaky realistic possibility theory to it don;t you think?

Of course having said that you can't catorgarise like that, you could say Brazilians are the best footballers, but not all of them. There are a few women who make it their business to make sure they know exactly what their doing :D

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

But if you enjoyed that blow job and it WAS a man, would that make you gay?
Would you be repulsed by the idea even tho you enjoyed it?

Jonno :cool:

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Oh but of course any straight man would be repulsed. According to science, since they heterosexual, the chemicals or hormones disallow room for anything else.

And since aesthetics are not part of sexuality then well.... :unsure:

Thank you vid. Jonno's question was easy to answer.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

And since aesthetics are not part of sexuality then well.... :unsure:

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I know its an old joke, but are you saying that if I was an aesthetic sex would not be a gas?

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Originally Posted by Busyman

O
Thank you vid. Jonno's question was easy to answer.

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:huh: huh?

As for the other bit about being repulsed, yes it's true most men would, but repulsed at the fact another man did it? Or the fact you enjoyed it?

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

For the most part that is possibly true, same as they say a woman can please another woman better than a man. this would be due to each sex knowing how their own bodies work and passing that knowledge into technique. So in theory if you could put a mans knowledge into a woman (If you're hetrosexual) she would possibly perform better than she would with her own knowledge therefore making the technique of a man better than that of a woman. The difference being that if you are hetro you would not enjoy knowing a man is giving you oral sex.

Of course the only people I've ever actually heard say stuff like that are gays, but it kinda has a freaky realistic possibility theory to it don;t you think?

Of course having said that you can't catorgarise like that, you could say Brazilians are the best footballers, but not all of them. There are a few women who make it their business to make sure they know exactly what their doing :D

Jonno :cool:

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A Pepsi Challenge for blow-jobs would solve this question. I will, of course, act as quality control for the women's team. :shifty:

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A Pepsi Challenge for blow-jobs would solve this question. I will, of course, act as quality control for the women's team

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A coke challenge would be more apt.:)

:ph34r: Careful of you get modededed :ermm:

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every Off Topic post which has to be removed will earn the poster some negative reputation (yes, it is still there, you just can't see it, and yes it can go negative). When your reputation falls below a certain point you go on moderation. Automatic. No matter who you are.

You have been warned.

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Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

You can't grasp that all human feelings can't be "tracked" into a birthed category.

Aesthetics are part of human sexuality.

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I grasp it...i just don't agree with it.

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Originally Posted by busy

Oh but of course any straight man would be repulsed. According to science, since they heterosexual, the chemicals or hormones disallow room for anything else.

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again you go there with the science bit...do you ignore anything that doesn't suit on everyones posts and just cherry pick what suits you?

BTW. it was hobbes that raised science...i just made a quip about it.

And where did i say every case is absolute ? there are variations that's why i told you "nature isn't logical"

If you took 10000 fresh born girls and 10000 fresh born boys and isolated them on an island free from sexual presets and gave them no sex education at all, just basic life needs such as food etc. i guarentee in 16 or so years there would be new borns on that island, and probably some homosexual relationships.

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Originally Posted by vidcc

If you took 10000 fresh born girls and 10000 fresh born boys and isolated them on an island free from sexual presets and gave them no sex education at all, just basic life needs such as food etc. i guarentee in 16 or so years there would be new borns on that island, and probably some homosexual relationships.

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:w00t: Where's this island??? :w00t:

Ok sorry :ph34r:

On topic: This is possibly the best line in this whole thread

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"nature isn't logical"

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Thats exactly it, all this talk of science is irrelevent, science does'nt make babies (Yes I know about the clone thing, I mean generally) naturally born babies will be born from and into nature, the way they grow up and what they grow into is pre programmed thru genes to some extent which are made by nature. It's obvious that a gay person has too many of the wrong gene for their sexual group.
Therefore you're born gay ;)

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

:w00t: Where's this island??? :w00t:

Ok sorry :ph34r:

On topic: This is possibly the best line in this whole thread



Thats exactly it, all this talk of science is irrelevent, science does'nt make babies (Yes I know about the clone thing, I mean generally) naturally born babies will be born from and into nature, the way they grow up and what they grow into is pre programmed thru genes to some extent which are made by nature. It's obvious that a gay person has too many of the wrong gene for their sexual group.
Therefore you're born gay ;)

Jonno :cool:

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WRONG gene? :huh:

Then gays are deficient and sick.

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

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Jonno :cool:

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That refers to posts in Everything About the Board. :dry:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

WRONG gene? :huh:

Then gays are deficient and sick.

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No, don't half quote me

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wrong gene for their sexual group

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Meaning a man would have too many female genes so to speak.

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

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Jonno :cool:

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As the Busyman says that refers to the EATB section of the board.

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

No, don't half quote me



Meaning a man would have too many female genes so to speak.

Jonno :cool:

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So these genes affected what type of person turned someone on but not their appearance?