The bin Laden tape didn't say don't vote for bush. It said it didn't matter if kerry or bush got elected. and Bush is just one of many.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDave
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The bin Laden tape didn't say don't vote for bush. It said it didn't matter if kerry or bush got elected. and Bush is just one of many.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDave
I suspect that if there was a preference on Osama's part it was for Bush to stay. Kerry was not talking about changing policy - just bringing a pile more people into the region and confusing the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthie
He managed to be a lot more neutral than almost anybody else who commented on the election. :blink:
:lol: Yeah I’m sure he would much rather someone in office that said they wanted him brought in dead or alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
That wanted tag has worked wonders so far hasn't it :huh:
actually think about it... Bush is on the world circuit incredibly unpopular....if you were osama would you want someone in office that could gather more support ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
@ Dan - Yeah I guess you’re right considering the only thing he’s able to do know is send out videotapes instead of crashing planes into buildings :dry:
@Vid – I’m not really sure what you are saying :blink:
He ahs had the tag on his head for how long now, 3 years? No one is any the closer to catching him.
Some might even say he was instrumental into sending Al Quaeda to Iraq or did his top man just decide to go over there himself?
I'm saying that he would want bush in office as he is unpopular on the world circuit, which means less worldwide support for his (bush's) causes thus making it easier for osama to operate.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
It's a shame that you had to explain that. Really. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
Like he does that very often or something... :dry:
I love those "we haven't been hit again so security must be working" folks. :lol:
Well have been attacked again? No. Since the terrorist attacks of 9/11 the only attacks he’s managed is over the airwaves. He’s gone from terrorist mastermind to being confined to a hole making videotapes.
Where there any attacks before 9/11 though? No, yet OBL and AQ were about long before that.
Although AQ are supposedly casuing havoc in Iraq so I guess they are still terrorising
Use the brain Hank.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
You are sounding just like the stereotypical folks I described on the previous page.
Btw the first WTC bombing was over 10 years ago. I guess Osama is supposed to step it up after 4 years this time around to prove anything to, huh Hank?
Use the brain Hank. Use the brain.
i have raised this point before that it may just be that they haven't attacked "yet" but it doesn't mean they won't...or it may be that they just haven't planned to attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
In my opinion to think that they haven't attacked because they can't is going back to the arrogance we had pre 911.
if someone doesn't get what i post i will gladly clear it up for them....without sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
What about the first attack on the WTC? What about the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole? What about the bombing of Embassies overseas?Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
More of the usual :dry:Quote:
if someone doesn't get what i post i will gladly clear it up for them....without sarcasm.
Well USS Cole and the embassies weren't on your home turf so the increased security hardly helps there.
And, much to my embaressment I didn't know there was an earlier attack on the WTC :blushing:
huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
Can't you be a little more cryptic?Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
You know to fire up those neurons... :lol: :lol:
Wasn’t aimed at you Vid.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
How many years before the 2nd atack was this?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
Why do you feel safe now, as its less than half the time between the two attacks that has passed?
They can strike where and when they want, the Borders of the USA are a joke... but then so are just about anyones unless they build an electrified fence around that is constantly patrolled and monitored 24/7. Hell even then people will be able to get in/out if they know what they are doing... Berlin proved that.
You couldn’t even buy a clue if you tried. About ¾ of AQ have been killed or captured and OBL is hiding in a cave making videotapes that sound strangely like a Michael Moore movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strangelove
Yeah okay :lol:
Actually the 3/4 figure you use is 3/4 of the "known" or "suspected" leaders at the time of 911.... not 3/4 of AQ. and certainly not 3/4 of todays AQ. Fact is we don't know how many AQ members exist or if those leaders have been replaced, but many conservative estimates from intelligence communities worldwide have suggested the membership of active and potentially active operatives is between 15 and 20 thousand. That's not to say that they are all at this moment planting bombs. Like every organisation different people would have different functions. from fundraising, recruitment, training to actual perpatrators etc. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
Which is of course how they have managed about three times as much terrorism in the world as a whole over the last 3 years, than they managed in the decade beforehand....Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
You wont take clues when they are given to you on a silver platter...
We’ve taken steps to protect ourselves and they are working. As hard as it is for you liberals to admit the steps we put in place are working. We aren’t invincible but the only attack OBL was able to mount before the election was a video. We have work to do but we have come a long way.
Security on the Mexican boarder is something that I’d like to see strengthened.
This coming from the person who didn’t even know that WTC was attacked before 9/11. That is what’s laughable.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
again you are ignoring the possibility that we weren't attacked before the election....because they just didn't plan to. to say it's because they are unable to is very dangerous thinking. It only takes ONE person to carry out an attack. Here in the USA that person doesn't even have to import weapons as they are freely available thanks to our NRA and other such groups. Heck a terrorist would know how to make explosives from stuff in any hardware store.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
My opinion is that they didn't have to attack because the fear was already there...and the point of terrorism is to create fear.
OBL said in his video that he will bankrupt the USA. so even if we have made it harder for him, he is adapting.
And how many Terrorist Attacks in the UK can you name?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
Remember that the 1st WTC attack came 10 years before the 2nd, and its "International News" to Dan...
I know i cant name many outside the UK that are current, even though i see them on the news all the time... never mind over 10 years ago.
Its laughable that even now, you appear to think that people in the UK give a monkeys about what happens in the USA as a rule, we dont. Just like most Americans dont care or know about what happens in the UK or the rest of Europe.
You do realise that you only consist of 6% of the worlds population, dont you?
Out of this 6%, less than half care enough about who runs your own country enough to actually vote.
Its almost unbelievable that you think your security is good, when they dont even have to smuggle the equipment into the USA... they just goto WalMart.
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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
I woukd have been 14/15 at the time. I didn't really have an interest in World Events then :dry:
As Strangelove said can you tell me any of the terrorist attacks we have had in the UK? :unsure:
And I'm sure the first step he had in mind was to get GWB reelected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vidcc
Well, he went from a surplus to a record Deficit in his 1st term... wonder what the deficit will be in 4 years :lol:
Strange and Dan the thing that you are missing is that I don’t know everything that’s going on in the world affairs like you two pretend to. I’ve never once said anything negative or positive about Tony Blair and the British government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strangelove
And to say that people in the U.K. don’t care what goes on in the U.S. is absolutely absurd. You are from the U.K and you sure seem to take and interest. And if no one cares what happens here then why did Bush make the cover of magazines in the U.K the day after the election? And also why did so many people from over there stay up to watch the results?
Because he is the most dangerous man in the world, its that simple... we would have stayed up for Israels results too....Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
Ah well, looks like they'll be going into the Ukraine next anyway...
Since they "won't accept" the election result there :rolleyes:
I think they are saying they don't care about every little thing that goes on in the USA ( what's news to us isn't to them)Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
This isn't to be confused with them caring about what the US is doing outside the US. and the world interest in this election was purely down to what the US is doing in the world.
Not just the US has condemned the Ukrainian election though.
It has been renounced worldwide as a set up.
Hank, that was 10 years ago, not current events.
Does that mean that we have to go into the USA 'coz we find their results unacceptable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Phlegm
:helpsmili
I don't find the results acceptable either.
You haven't held a threatening press conference about it tho have you?
The US should be more careful about its attitude nowadays.