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It's really quite simple - it is bad law.
It's really quite simple - So far the democratically elected Governments of The United Kingdon of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, The Irish Republic, Wales and Scotland have decided to pass this law.
That's not just my opinion btw, see above.
I don't agree. On the face of it it's a good law. Smoking is not a personal habit and while I think you have every right to smoke and endanger yourself the idea that you have the right to inflict your habit on others that choose not to smoke no matter where you are is selfish and IMO simply wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynx
Where I don't agree is the law being applied to private member only clubs (if it actually is).
So because a government is democratically elected no law passed should be questioned ?????????????????Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Democratically elected does not equate to just or competent, they are not always acting at the will of the people or in the best interests of the nation.
I agree.:) I think things like this that affects the whole nation should be put on the ballot paper beside the party that intends to implement such laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidccI don't agree. On the face of it it's a good law. Smoking is not a personal habit and while I think you have every right to smoke and endanger yourself the idea that you have the right to inflict your habit on others that choose not to smoke no matter where you are is selfish and IMO simply wrong.
Where I don't agree is the law being applied to private member only clubs (if it actually is).
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Originally Posted by JPaul
So because a government is democratically elected no law passed should be questioned ?????????????????
Democratically elected does not equate to just or competent, they are not always acting at the will of the people or in the best interests of the nation.
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EXEMPTIONS
1. Residential accommodation.
2. Designated rooms in adult care homes.
3. Adult hospices.
4. Designated rooms in psychiatric hospitals and psychiatric units.
5. Designated hotel bedrooms.
6. Detention or interview rooms which are designated rooms.
7. Designated rooms in offshore installations.
8. Private vehicles
9. Designated laboratory rooms.
10. HM Submarines and ships of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary.
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Originally Posted by bigboab
What else would you have on this ballot paper come manifesto, boab.
Anything that is going to affect the whole nation. I am only talking about major changes. Would you like the SNP if and when elected to declare Scotland independent without a Referendum? Would you like the Conservative Party to take the UK out of Europe without consulting the public?Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboab
What else would you have on this ballot paper come manifesto, boab.
Incidentally I agree with the no smoking law. Just because I think it is right should not overrule the the rights of the people who think it is wrong.
Same here. We have the ban in MD.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboabAnything that is going to affect the whole nation. I am only talking about major changes. Would you like the SNP if and when elected to declare Scotland independent without a Referendum? Would you like the Conservative Party to take the UK out of Europe without consulting the public?Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Incidentally I agree with the no smoking law. Just because I think it is right should not overrule the the rights of the people who think it is wrong.
I just look at it from both sides and not just because I don't smoke.
In certain circumstances like a private bar, we'd be infringing on smoker's rights.
Unless cigs are deemed illegal (which I'm all for :devil:), smokers should have rights.
I couldn't agree more. However rights must be balanced and I think that the right of people to not be killed by passive smoking outweighs the right to smoke anywhere you chose. ToQuote:
Originally Posted by bigboab
Glasgow Council is taking it further. People aren't going to be allowed to smoke anywhere on their premises. So if you are sitting in your car, parked in their car park then you will not be allowed to smoke. I think that takes it too far personally.
My point exactly. Everyone has 'A step too far'. The National Ban was a step too far for smokers.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaulI couldn't agree more. However rights must be balanced and I think that the right of people to not be killed by passive smoking outweighs the right to smoke anywhere you chose. ToQuote:
Originally Posted by bigboab
Glasgow Council is taking it further. People aren't going to be allowed to smoke anywhere on their premises. So if you are sitting in your car, parked in their car park then you will not be allowed to smoke. I think that takes it too far personally.
I see that the Freemasons are complaining because they have to go outside with their aprons and cuffs on in order to get a smoke.:lol:
Hellfire and brimstone inside but no smoking.:lol: