You Want The Shady S*** Of Es5?

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Originally posted by firestorm22@10 February 2004 - 23:15
KAB right or for the wrong innocent or not your probley even a liar we all are but the most inexcusable is a double agent snitch that enough! should get you banned!or since your Almost 17 give a final hooray speech and leave permenantly sorry but a snitch is a snith Know your loyaltys and dont ever bend

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what?

sorry i don't understand wtf you just said.

@hacktown. I understand your ignorance, i don't understand why you want me to keep repeating myself.

i have lots of nerve calling him a bad guy? maybe I didn't want to believe it then, but i believe it now. i ignored what i didn't want to hear back then.

ES5 is not a large operation. Its a collection of a few people. When sp shifts the blame by saying "i dont know him i dont take orders from him" it doesn't work.

STEVE TAYLOR=STEVE COHEN?

Its either not really steve cohen, or hes been working with es5 since at least may last year

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Originally posted by kAb+12 February 2004 - 02:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kAb @ 12 February 2004 - 02:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-firestorm22@10 February 2004 - 23:15
KAB right or for the wrong innocent or not your probley even a liar we all are but the most inexcusable is a double agent snitch that enough&#33;&nbsp; should get you banned&#33;or since your Almost 17 give a final hooray speech and leave permenantly sorry but a snitch is a snith Know your loyaltys and dont ever bend

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what?

sorry i don&#39;t understand wtf you just said.

@hacktown. I understand your ignorance, i don&#39;t understand why you want me to keep repeating myself.

i have lots of nerve calling him a bad guy? maybe I didn&#39;t want to believe it then, but i believe it now. i ignored what i didn&#39;t want to hear back then.

ES5 is not a large operation. Its a collection of a few people. When sp shifts the blame by saying "i dont know him i dont take orders from him" it doesn&#39;t work.

STEVE TAYLOR=STEVE COHEN?

Its either not really steve cohen, or hes been working with es5 since at least may last year [/b][/quote]
Dude who fucking cares who Steve Cohen is or who Steve Taylor is or how big es5 is? C&#39;mon you keep twisting the subject.

I am ignorant? How is that kAb? Cause I see through your crap?

You were on ES5 for a year. You gave them info about this forum cause you were in Sharepros secret group. Only double agents get to sharepros inner circle or to see that special forum.

So I am ignorant? Your the one who brought it all up. I think your totally full of shit kab. You come here expecting to convince us all that your some innocent creature when it was you who was playing double agent for over a year now.

Your a snitch. You expect us to believe you didnt give sharepro information about klite members in this secret "society" group?

How did sharepro know Random Nuts home address or his real name?

You say in a previous post "good people dont dos attack bit torrent sites" and you were sharepros double agent for a year&#33; Now we are ignorant? Now we are stupid?

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KAB right or for the wrong innocent or not your probley even a liar we all are but the most inexcusable is a double agent snitch that enough&#33; should get you banned&#33;or since your Almost 17 give a final hooray speech and leave permenantly sorry but a snitch is a snith Know your loyaltys and dont ever bend

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kab aint almost 17, hes almost 16&#33; :o

And for you KAB:

FUCK OFF SNITCH

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Dude who fucking cares who Steve Cohen is or who Steve Taylor is or how big es5 is?&nbsp; C&#39;mon you keep twisting the subject.

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why SHOULDN&#39;T you care? When the program is being led by a convicted convict millionaire, he isn&#39;t going to have good intentions. Why would they hide that "Cohen" has been working with es5 from the start? Thats what I want to know.

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You were on ES5 for a year.&nbsp; You gave them info about this forum cause you were in Sharepros secret group.&nbsp; Only double agents get to sharepros inner circle or to see that special forum.&nbsp;

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Oh yeah, I told em all about the biggest spam post in the world thread, and that thread where Funky took a shit. Yeah, my bad, won&#39;t happen again. :rolleyes:

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So I am ignorant?&nbsp; Your the one who brought it all up.&nbsp; I think your totally full of shit kab.&nbsp; You come here expecting to convince us all that your some innocent creature when it was you who was playing double agent for over a year now.

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Hold on there. Who started the thread? Yeah thats what I thought. I come to defend myself after Illuminati posted SharePro bullshit. How many times do you want me to say I made a bad decision in supporting es5? I wasn&#39;t playing "double agent" for "over a year" I joined the es5 board in fucking May. I don&#39;t care if you think I&#39;m full of shit, try opening your eyes.

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Your a snitch.&nbsp; You expect us to believe you didnt give sharepro information about klite members in this secret "society" group?&nbsp;

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1. What information would I give?
2. I never "gave information to sharepro" about k-lite, its another lie he concocted because I left the forum and sharepro was/is pissed at me. I only notified him when k-lite died suggesting it would be a good way to get k-lite members looking for an alternative. Nothing he couldn&#39;t have figured out on his own. Bad mistake by me.

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How did sharepro know Random Nuts home address or his real name?

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Lol its NOT his real name. And he DOESN&#39;T know his address. Ask random nut if shawn whatever is his name. I don&#39;t know his address or name. Does random nut know me? I&#39;m sure he doesn&#39;t. I&#39;m not a big spy with high connections man, I&#39;m member of a forum. Thats it.

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You say in a previous post "good people dont dos attack bit torrent sites" and you were sharepros double agent for a year&#33;&nbsp; Now we are ignorant?&nbsp; Now we are stupid?

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As I said before, I didn&#39;t want to believe it, I kind of avoided things that went against es5. YOU are the only ignorant one. I never called anyone else ignorant.

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And for you KAB:

FUCK OFF SNITCH

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Yeah thats real mature, go back to es5. and here, you can have my fanboy clothes. :01:

Dude you act smooth but Ive seen you in the es5 radio station almost every day. http://es5radio.com/chat.php - for anybody who wants to see this smootcher.

You say that you quit es5 and then you say that sharepro removed your account privledges and that is why you decided to "open your mouth" about the secret forum. You didnt "quit" - you got thrown out.

You call him a liar, and I go over to Sharepro and pm him calling him a liar, and then when he says "proove it", I come back and you show me nothing. You made me look like an ass. I wish you were sitting next to me right now so that I could handle this without words. :angry:

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why SHOULDN&#39;T you care? When the program is being led by a convicted convict millionaire, he isn&#39;t going to have good intentions. Why would they hide that "Cohen" has been working with es5 from the start? Thats what I want to know.

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Maybe Steve Cohen wanted to be anonymous and didnt want people knowing he was involved. Does he owe you an explanation? Should es5 give out that info because you tell them to? Explain to me why you needed to know who Steve Cohen is or his relationship to es5? I dont care and I doubt any other p2pr cares.

If Sharepro gave out your identity cause some other p2p&#39;r asked for it how would you feel? He probably didnt give out steves name like he doesnt give out your name. so what?

That makes them liars? Anybody who uses a proxy (the entire es5 community) are "liars" because they connect using 3rd party proxys and if somebody gets sued its the proxy owner. We are all criminals for doing p2p. We can all be sued for millions. So who cares if Steve is a convicted felon? To set up es5 and stream movies and all that other crap, only a criminal would do it. Would the CEO of IBM do it?

While I may be a "criminal" just like my peers and that guy Steve, I at least am not 2 faced.

I thought you had info like that ES5 was really bad people or are doing something bad to us users. You have a beef with SP and you want to convince us all that you are the good guy.

So far, all you have done is prove how full of crap you are. Why were you in a secret society if there was nothing secret about it? That is more interesting than why Steve Cohn is with ES5 or why they didnt admit it until now.

Sharepro is an asshole for dos attacking bit torrent sites and you were his friend kab during that whole time in the secret society forum. That makes you just as bad. Now you come here and say he is the bad guy. If he is bad, then you are SHIT.

I feel kinda bad talking to a 15 year old this way cause I think I could get arrested or something. Most teen agers always lie about thier age by a year. Who knows maybe kab is really only 13.

KAB YOU ARE A 2 FACED SNITCH

OK, I don&#39;t know what this thread is about, nor do I want to read the whole thing. This thread has nothing but flaming right now, as of this post, it will stop, or this thread will be locked.

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Originally posted by Hacktown@12 February 2004 - 18:06
Dude you act smooth but Ive seen you in the es5 radio station almost every day. http://es5radio.com/chat.php - for anybody who wants to see this smootcher.

You say that you quit es5 and then you say that sharepro removed your account privledges and that is why you decided to "open your mouth" about the secret forum. You didnt "quit" - you got thrown out.

You call him a liar, and I go over to Sharepro and pm him calling him a liar, and then when he says "proove it", I come back and you show me nothing. You made me look like an ass. I wish you were sitting next to me right now so that I could handle this without words. :angry:

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why SHOULDN&#39;T you care? When the program is being led by a convicted convict millionaire, he isn&#39;t going to have good intentions. Why would they hide that "Cohen" has been working with es5 from the start? Thats what I want to know.

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Maybe Steve Cohen wanted to be anonymous and didnt want people knowing he was involved. Does he owe you an explanation? Should es5 give out that info because you tell them to? Explain to me why you needed to know who Steve Cohen is or his relationship to es5? I dont care and I doubt any other p2pr cares.

If Sharepro gave out your identity cause some other p2p&#39;r asked for it how would you feel? He probably didnt give out steves name like he doesnt give out your name. so what?

That makes them liars? Anybody who uses a proxy (the entire es5 community) are "liars" because they connect using 3rd party proxys and if somebody gets sued its the proxy owner. We are all criminals for doing p2p. We can all be sued for millions. So who cares if Steve is a convicted felon? To set up es5 and stream movies and all that other crap, only a criminal would do it. Would the CEO of IBM do it?

While I may be a "criminal" just like my peers and that guy Steve, I at least am not 2 faced.

I thought you had info like that ES5 was really bad people or are doing something bad to us users. You have a beef with SP and you want to convince us all that you are the good guy.

So far, all you have done is prove how full of crap you are. Why were you in a secret society if there was nothing secret about it? That is more interesting than why Steve Cohn is with ES5 or why they didnt admit it until now.

Sharepro is an asshole for dos attacking bit torrent sites and you were his friend kab during that whole time in the secret society forum. That makes you just as bad. Now you come here and say he is the bad guy. If he is bad, then you are SHIT.

I feel kinda bad talking to a 15 year old this way cause I think I could get arrested or something. Most teen agers always lie about thier age by a year. Who knows maybe kab is really only 13.

KAB YOU ARE A 2 FACED SNITCH

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Dude you act smooth but Ive seen you in the es5 radio station almost every day.&nbsp; http://es5radio.com/chat.php&nbsp; -&nbsp; for anybody who wants to see this smootcher.

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I rarely go the chat buddy, last time i went was when i made my topic @ es5.

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You say that you quit es5 and then you say that sharepro removed your account privledges and that is why you decided to "open your mouth" about the secret forum.&nbsp; You didnt "quit" - you got thrown out.

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..ok... sure... i quit and then got thrown out. whatever you want to believe.

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You call him a liar, and I go over to Sharepro and pm him calling him a liar, and then when he says "proove it", I come back and you show me nothing.&nbsp; You made me look like an ass.&nbsp; I wish you were sitting next to me right now so that I could handle this without words. :angry:

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Why did you call SharePro a liar if you had no evidence to back it up? Leave that kind of stuff to those of us that know what we&#39;re talking about. Your constant immaturity leads me to believe you&#39;re either at a younger age than me or mentally challenged.

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Maybe Steve Cohen wanted to be anonymous and didnt want people knowing he was involved.&nbsp; Does he owe you an explanation?&nbsp; Should es5 give out that info because you tell them to?&nbsp; Explain to me why you needed to know who Steve Cohen is or his relationship to es5?&nbsp; I dont care and I doubt any other p2pr cares.

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WHY? YES an explanation is owed. You dont care? Ok, but I&#39;m sure other people want to know why his identity was hidden and only now revealed as being brought on to the project

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If Sharepro gave out your identity cause some other p2p&#39;r asked for it how would you feel?&nbsp; He probably didnt give out steves name like he doesnt give out your name.&nbsp; so what?

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Except that SP says he "doesn&#39;t take orders from steve" and thats all he says about the subject.

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While I may be a "criminal" just like my peers and that guy Steve, I at least am not 2 faced.

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What have I done worthy of being called "2 faced"? I made a mistake by investing time and energy into es5. The traitor SP paints me as is false. How many times do I need to make that clear?

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I thought you had info like that ES5 was really bad people or are doing something bad to us users.&nbsp; You have a beef with SP and you want to convince us all that you are the good guy.&nbsp;

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Not many people need convincing, since we have seen that malicious code was implemented, SP claiming it was for deleting kiddie porn off the network, then a new story came out the next day.

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So far, all you have done is prove how full of crap you are.&nbsp; Why were you in a secret society if there was nothing secret about it?&nbsp; That is more interesting than why Steve Cohn is with ES5 or why they didnt admit it until now.&nbsp;

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Ask SP why it was called the SS, I don&#39;t know.

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Sharepro is an asshole for dos attacking bit torrent sites and you were his friend kab during that whole time in the secret society forum.&nbsp; That makes you just as bad.&nbsp; Now you come here and say he is the bad guy.&nbsp; If he is bad, then you are SHIT.

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mmkay except i didn&#39;t support his attacking anything anytime. If you&#39;re in a car with friends, and suddenly your friend takes out a gun and shoots an old lady walking across the street, should you be thrown in jail for 50 years too?

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I feel kinda bad talking to a 15 year old this way cause I think I could get arrested or something.&nbsp; Most teen agers always lie about thier age by a year.&nbsp; Who knows maybe kab is really only 13.

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You don&#39;t have to believe my age. I&#39;ve posted my picture before. But now you are constantly attacking me personally, lets leave personal attacks out of this. You are the one appearing to be very immature.

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Originally posted by Jack@12 February 2004 - 19:10
OK, I don&#39;t know what this thread is about, nor do I want to read the whole thing. This thread has nothing but flaming right now, as of this post, it will stop, or this thread will be locked.

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only hacktown is flaming. If other members want to comment on this then they should be allowed to. if anything needs to be deleted/locked, just delete hacktown&#39;s personal attacks please if necessary.

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WHY? YES an explanation is owed. You dont care? Ok, but I&#39;m sure other people want to know why his identity was hidden and only now revealed as being brought on to the project

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Who cares what Steve&#39;s roll is in ES5? I am really interested to know who cares&#33; Here on K+ nobody cares and on ES5 nobody cares. What explanation is needed? To whom does ES5 answer to? To you? To me? To the P2P community? Dude, I dont care who owns Kazaa, who created Kazaa Lite, who owns Morpheus or any other p2p program and I couldnt care less what steve does. I use p2p to get files and not because Bill Gates owns or doesnt own it.

ES5 has always claimed that they dont give out info on the owners or their employees. Go back to ZP and do your homework. So according to you ES5 needed to make a public statement and get kabs approval?

Really Im trying to understand you. Lets say that Bram Cohen is Steve Cohens brother. So Steve Cohen works with ES5 and Bram Cohen works on Bit Torrent. Would that change the world? Would anybody care? What could we do with the info that would make us happier people in life? Paranoid people like you would probably feel "important".

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Why did you call SharePro a liar if you had no evidence to back it up? Leave that kind of stuff to those of us that know what we&#39;re talking about. Your constant immaturity leads me to believe you&#39;re either at a younger age than me or mentally challenged.

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I wrote a letter back aplogizing to Sharepro. he didnt deserve my crap. Hes never done anything bad to me. I look at what you would want me to believe and then I look at what he does on es5 and preferred to make mends and take him for what he does give.

He wrote me back today thanking me and has giving me FTP access so that I can upload to a webserver and host a website in Palestine and given me access to an es5 proxy. So it pays nicely to be on his good side. He says hes giving all of the people on his good side the ability to host websites with our domain names on his servers. So it pays to be on his good side and I didnt have to kiss his butt to get it. He just pmd me back and offered as a gesture of good will and promises to set us up soon with free telephone calls using his voice over ip box. If that means being on your bad side then I am happy to be there. At least I get something for free from him and it aint talk. Im uploading to the webserver now.

Im not gonna bother reading through most of this crap, but heres the facts to date:

SharePro is a known liar

ES5 had dodgy stuff in it

And I wont ever use that crap :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Originally posted by Hacktown@13 February 2004 - 04:03
He wrote me back today thanking me and has giving me FTP access so that I can upload to a webserver and host a website in Palestine and given me access to an es5 proxy. So it pays nicely to be on his good side. He says hes giving all of the people on his good side the ability to host websites with our domain names on his servers. So it pays to be on his good side and I didnt have to kiss his butt to get it. He just pmd me back and offered as a gesture of good will and promises to set us up soon with free telephone calls using his voice over ip box. If that means being on your bad side then I am happy to be there. At least I get something for free from him and it aint talk. Im uploading to the webserver now.

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Lol, lemme guess, you got on his good side by flaming here didn&#39;t you?

Trust me, if Sharepro is giving you access, his circle of friends is thinning, because whatever Sharepro is, he&#39;s not stupid and wouldn&#39;t ever trust somebody who&#39;s worsening ES5&#39; reputation on other boards like you do, unless he was forced too.

So be happy uploading to your Palistinian refugee camp and please let us know when your ISP has figured out how to use a packet sniffer. :devil: