Re: will the usa go into iran
They werent Coalition, they were American and Iraqi forces...
Shame you havent mentioned anything about how no males aged between 15-55 were allowed to leave before the attack... and that certain commanders told their troops to shoot people before accepting surrender (in case they were booby trapped)... thats the same as saying "Shoot ALL males between 15-55 in the city"...
How can they tell which of the dead are insurgents? They werent wearing uniforms... yeah, right....
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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
Numerous graves were uncovered when we first got there.
I saw Ruthie’s post. I also noticed that she stayed quite when collation and Iraqi forces found slaughterhouses in Fallujah; Its where insurgents were holding civilian hostages and killing them.
are you telling me you were suprised that "slaughter houses" were found ?... it's not like they tried to hide them. I mean they took video of the killings and put it on general release.
Gosh they must be worried now the secret is out.:unsure:
Re: will the usa go into iran
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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
Numerous graves were uncovered when we first got there.
I saw Ruthie’s post. I also noticed that she stayed quite when collation and Iraqi forces found slaughterhouses in Fallujah; Its where insurgents were holding civilian hostages and killing them.
Aw, Hank..you ought to know better by now..I don't hestitate to express myself. did you ask me about my thoughts on that particular topic? No, you did not. ROFL.
Yes, graves were uncovered..now we are making new ones, and covering them ourselves..aren't we nice? Of course places of hostage holding ans execution have been found..they do exist, unlike the WMD's.
Perhaps you are dismayed that Nick Berg's father is anti-war...we've heard him speak, been at rallies with him, watched him get arrested, and took pics while he was getting arrested. yes, they found where some of these events happened. They didn't have to look as hard to find the torture prison though, did they.
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Saddam was an evil man and killed a lot of people - particularly in his wars against Iran, the Kurds and the Marsh Arabs. If the Iraqi strategy was going to be successful we had to bring stability and peace quickly - we have not. A lot of innocent civilians have died as a result of this war. A lot of innocents have also died due to the looting of hospitals and destruction of sanitation facilities. The infant mortality rate in Iraq is awful. There are a lot of Iraqis who hated Saddam who now have little regard for us also - they were there for the winning over when we went in. The troubles of the Iraqi people have not lessened since Saddam fell 20 months ago they are simply different.
To return to the topic, it is experiences like this that will determine whether attempting something like Iran is practical. For starters I can't see an Iraqi government agreeing to another war with Iran from its territory.
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Yes, but an Iraqi government will have no choice..the gov't will be Bush's bitch.
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Originally Posted by ruthie
Yes, but an Iraqi government will have no choice..the gov't will be Bush's bitch.
Perhaps, but the Iraqi opinion polls do not currently favour pro US candidates.
I suppose it depends whether it is one man one vote on a bit of paper or those new fangled computer jobs. :ohmy:
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It will be...
Bush is the man, and he'll cast the vote....
....a little like the US elections really :whistling
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Originally Posted by cpt_azad
bravo. although your statement is pretty weak, i'd have to agree on some very low level with you. honestly, saddam had more control in Iraq then your puppet gov't ever will, not control as in suppression, but freedom yes freedom. what is democracy? where people choose the gov't and have their say. well, call it dictatorship or not, i'd rather be under saddam's power than george's anyday. for cryin out loud, they had the basic necessities when mr. hussain was in power. oh well, no point in crying over spilt milk right? oh wait, 9/11 riiiiiite, that's how this whole Iraq thing started (w/ a little help from non-existant WMDs). for shame America, for shame. There is no hiding it, when the war was announced everyone in America was in on it, or agreeing with it, so you are all guilty, not just the Bush admin.
Typical terrorist thinking. :dry:
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the mass graves that were found at first were from the iran-iraq war
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Originally Posted by Busyman
Typical terrorist thinking. :dry:
for a start how many terrorists do you know? 2, i agree with azad, if you did what you were told under saddam you lived a relatively good life. there was no slave labour or random attacks on people. the only atrocity i know of against innocent people was revenge for when some of them tried to rise up.
now living as an iraqi you have no running water, no electricity, troops coming into your house breaking islamic law and turning the place upside down. to top it off you can get killed either by accident or for looking funny