Re: Catholic Church loses fight to discriminate ..
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Mr JP Fugley
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Originally Posted by
Ava Estelle
There is no separation of church and state in Britain. The church sits in the House of Lords, and the Archbishop of Canterbury is chosen by the Prime Minister.
To be accurate, that would be the Church of England which is joined to the State. The Catholic Church is in fact separate from the State, I believe the Act of Union is very specific on that point.
That's partly right I think, I'm not too sure, but isn't the Church of Scotland established in Scotland, and don't they also sit in the House of Lords?
The only references to Catholicism I can remember from the Act of Union was the banning of Catholics from the throne.
Re: Catholic Church loses fight to discriminate ..
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Originally Posted by
Ava Estelle
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
To be accurate, that would be the Church of England which is joined to the State. The Catholic Church is in fact separate from the State, I believe the Act of Union is very specific on that point.
That's partly right I think, I'm not too sure, but isn't the Church of Scotland established in Scotland, and don't they also sit in the House of Lords?
The only references to Catholicism I can remember from the Act of Union was the banning of Catholics from the throne.
The Act guaranteed that the Church of Scotland would remain the established church in Scotland. I don't think they are represented in The Lords tho', but I'm not sure.
It does indeed ban Catholics from the throne. Specifically Catholics and no other group. Did you also see the uproar when T Blair attended Catholic mass with his Catholic Wife and Children, he I believe is Anglican. It was really rather funny.
I've got a bet on that he quietly turns Jungle Jim when he leaves power.
Re: Catholic Church loses fight to discriminate ..
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
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Originally Posted by
Ava Estelle
That's partly right I think, I'm not too sure, but isn't the Church of Scotland established in Scotland, and don't they also sit in the House of Lords?
The only references to Catholicism I can remember from the Act of Union was the banning of Catholics from the throne.
The Act guaranteed that the Church of Scotland would remain the established church in Scotland. I don't think they are represented in The Lords tho', but I'm not sure.
It does indeed ban Catholics from the throne. Specifically Catholics and no other group. Did you also see the uproar when T Blair attended Catholic mass with his Catholic Wife and Children, he I believe is Anglican. It was really rather funny.
I've got a bet on that he quietly turns Jungle Jim when he leaves power.
I think he might wait until he completes a few USA tours first.:)
Re: Catholic Church loses fight to discriminate ..
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
It does indeed ban Catholics from the throne. Specifically Catholics and no other group.
Actually, there are two other groups, those who marry Catholics, and bastards.
Line of Succession to the British Throne.
Re: Catholic Church loses fight to discriminate ..
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Originally Posted by
Ava Estelle
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
It does indeed ban Catholics from the throne. Specifically Catholics and no other group.
Actually, there are two other groups, those who marry Catholics, and bastards.
Line of Succession to the British Throne.
:lol:
That's OK well.
Re: Catholic Church loses fight to discriminate ..
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Originally Posted by
Mr JP Fugley
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Originally Posted by
Ava Estelle
There is no separation of church and state in Britain. The church sits in the House of Lords, and the Archbishop of Canterbury is chosen by the Prime Minister.
To be accurate, that would be the Church of England which is joined to the State. The Catholic Church is in fact separate from the State, I believe the Act of Union is very specific on that point.
All of which points up the difference between the U.K. and the U.S., which difference seems to be clouding this debate and rendering it untenable.
That's it for me. :dabs:
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It boils down to this.
Adoption agencies are controlled by government. You can't set up an adoption agency without approval by the government, (if you do then you are not in the adoption business you are a human trafficker). This is to ensure the safety of the children. It would be wrong not to regulate such a concern.
Government sets the rules, it would be wrong to apply the rules selectively. Expecting religious beliefs to be an opt out of the regulations is demanding special treatment. You may agree with special treatment in this case but then you probably will not for a different case. The best way is to apply the rules across the board.
The cries of the state interfering with the church are pointless, they are not interfering with the church at all, they are regulating an adoption agency. Who runs that agency is irrelevant.
Re: Catholic Church loses fight to discriminate ..
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vidcc
The best way is to apply the rules across the board.
I agree, it is perhaps unfortunate that doesn't happen in so many other cases.
Church adoption agencies have asked for an exemption and didn't get it. They will have to follow the rules and will stop doing it.
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the catholic adoption centers have a right to belief. the government is preventing the adoption centers to exercise their beliefs. that is not right.
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You don't get involved in these sorts of discussions because you talk nonsensical drivel. Here's one bit
"I think it is because religious folk are forced to think that their was is the best way" why would anyone think differently. That would be mental.
Here's another
"And if someone who was qualified as an able parent turns out to be a secret pedophile, then oh well. shit happens." That's your answer, shit happens.
