Re: why do people invite others?
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Originally Posted by
Polarbear
you can divide inviters into three main groups:
1. traders
their motivation is really simple to explain. they invite people in exchange for invites or accounts to other sites. this benefit outbalances all negative consequences for them. disabled accounts, hiding from staff, inviting cheaters, getting banned etc. aren't a problem for them. as long as the trade partner delivers the promised good, they really don't care.
2. the public giveaways
people who make public giveaways do it to get recognition and a reputation in invite forums. they consciously break tracker rules as well and don't care much about who they invite either. their benefits are rep points and (from their point of view) a better chance to be considered in their next request for invites or a giveaway they take part in. because of this somehow delayed expected exchange the benefit isn't an instant one. the proportion of negative consequences and benefit is more balanced. that's why they ask for screenshots and other proofs from the strangers they invite.
group one and two have one thing in common. they are both looking for invites to other sites.
Damn the trading option then really does look better than the Public giveaways option ..
Both the groups put thier accounts into danger when they trade/giveaway .. The diff is that the trader is trading invites to sites where most probably he has no interest in to get into a site he has interest in .. Atleast hes getting something usefull in return .. Whereas the Giveaway guy is just getting some reputation which is again frowned upon here .. So infact its hurting his chances to get into the tracker for which hes doing the giveaways .. So its a now in situation for those ppl who do public giveaways in the any scenario .. Take the Example of Magnum here .. He is by far the most generous guy till date i have seen in this Forum .. He this work out for him?
So now when a new BT user comes to FST what will he do? Trade or help the Forum by public giveaways? Think abt it ..
Re: why do people invite others?
Re: why do people invite others?
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Originally Posted by
puckface
But a rhetorical question, if you looked at my rep points, would you invite me anywhere?
Knowing you/your giveaways from another forum (too bad you don't come there anymore), I'd say I'd invite you to any tracker, anytime. But you probably have them all by now. ;)
When I'm inviting someone to a tracker I try to know that person better, judging from his posting history, how well they speak english and how they formulate their posts. I don't like beggers who made requests for every imaginable tracker. I encourage people to go for a tracker they really want and wait patiently for it, meanwhile contributing to the community by being helpful and considerate to other members. I don't like people who judge others for their ways (see anti-traders vs traders).
With very few exceptions I'd say I contributed with good members to all the trackers I am member of.
Re: why do people invite others?
Wanderer, I'm sure you know there are lots of members from non-English origins.
But what I find funny is that they always use that to "cover" their poor English they wrote in a second or two and I think that it's absurd, if I wasn't much of an English speaker I would keep trying and brush it up.
I was also told by a certain senior member that doing giveaways will actually bring me down so I decided not to do any already even though I only give invites to those who deserves it.
From the majority of the tracker's staffs they highly discourage public giveaways.
But they should have thought that some of their members who've got invites had not any computer savvy friends to give to?
Re: why do people invite others?
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Originally Posted by
AniStoned
Wanderer, I'm sure you know there are lots of members from non-English origins.
I know that - I'm also one of them, but I assure you speaking (or trying to speak) a correct english will take you far and you'll make a good impression. Not to mention it will be easy to plead your case in front of a staff member in case of trouble with your account or getting an invite.
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Originally Posted by
AniStoned
From the majority of the tracker's staffs they highly discourage public giveaways.
That's true, but there are exceptions, too. There were a lot of staff's giveaways made here at FST. While I was member here at FST, I saw giveaways from.
FTN - brandon is legendary for his giveaways here
SCT - feeling himself gave away invites to SCT here
FSC - sear had a recruitment topic not so long ago
BCG - stoi is a regular here and one of the most respected members
PTN - had 2 recruitment topics
and so on.
Also keeping an eye on the open signups topic is highly recommended (bitmetv had last year open signups). Just be patient and good things will come to you. :)
Re: why do people invite others?
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Originally Posted by
The Wanderer
I know that - I'm also one of them, but I assure you speaking (or trying to speak) a correct english will take you far and you'll make a good impression. Not to mention it will be easy to plead your case in front of a staff member in case of trouble with your account or getting an invite.
Well, I always construct my post carefully if I want to speak my thoughts since a 3rd person's point of view is rather important when discussing important stuffs.
Maybe such as whether a function should be implanted onto the tracker itself or not.
I once got banned on BitMeTV for inactivity as I was away for quite some time and had no internet access, I pleaded and asked nicely but they just ignored me.
But now I'm in again due to help of a good friend I guess? :)
Doing great, PU there.
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Originally Posted by
The Wanderer
That's true, but there are exceptions, too. There were a lot of staff's giveaways made here at FST. While I was member here at FST, I saw giveaways from.
FTN - brandon is legendary for his giveaways here
SCT - feeling himself gave away invites to SCT here
FSC - sear had a recruitment topic not so long ago
BCG - stoi is a regular here and one of the most respected members
PTN - had 2 recruitment topics
and so on.
Also keeping an eye on the open signups topic is highly recommended (bitmetv had last year open signups). Just be patient and good things will come to you. :)
I've personally never seen Brandon doing that though, would like to be in FTN but I don't think I'll ever get in.
I'm sure the ScT GA by feeling must have been ages ago, they're quite tyrannical in certain aspects TBH. I might be wrong though.
I really respect stoi and I'm a S-PU there, always see him on the forums talking about how drunk he is or such. :lol:
Re: why do people invite others?
It was interesting reading up on each ones thoughts towards the subject.
I think most users in fst give out invites to build up their rep. It's a beginner's instinct. I myself remember my beginning days in fst.
When I saw users with a high BT rep, my first thought was that these were the only users approached by the tracker's staff for invites, because they gave away a lot of invites and they deserved something in return.
What i didn't know is that tracker's hate public giveaways and the damage it costs. I think it's safe to say that giving invites to random users can hurt a tracker in many ways.
My first reaction after seeing what was going on, was to make some giveaways as soon as possible. I wanted to get with the top dogs, and i remember thinking"Damn this is going to take a long time".
I'm glad the BT rep is frowned upon now, hence it gives beginners a chance to get what they are looking for, and it makes it a whole lot easier.(BT rep is bad after all)
The only thing I would like for us to improve as a community is our guiding skills. I see a lot of new members coming here, and resorting to the trade section because they don't have a chance in the GA section.
We each need to help out in pulling them out of the wrong path. And that is by............flaming the shite out of them. :lol: lol jk jk. We need to show them that getting what they want isn't as hard as they think it is. I guarantee you that by giving them a few tips, can change someone's whole perspective and point of view of the torrenting world. A decent user changed mines at least.
This is just my two cents so don't call me a hypocrite, spammer etc... Last time i tried to reach out, I got flammed with a half page hate post by a mad Bollywood movie watching schizophrenic:lol:
Re: why do people invite others?
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Originally Posted by
meelad
I disagree with number 2. Those who do public giveaways are not always looking for rep points or invites to more sites. Many people giveaway in the spirit of sharing.
True giveaways are when people know the person for a while, and then pass them an invite without displaying it all over a forum.
Re: why do people invite others?
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True giveaways are when people know the person for a while, and then pass them an invite without displaying it all over a forum.
To an extent I would totally agree with you wiseD. But there are also those people out there who don't interact all that much with others and yet still would like to give out their invites.
I'm a huge proponent of the community side of torrent sites, but I do also understand there are those who would prefer not to make e-friends and all that crazy crap. FST provides an easy "one stop" place to share their invites.
But you're right, the preferred situation is when friends invite friends to ensure the quality of the new members that enter a site.
Re: why do people invite others?
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Originally Posted by
The Wanderer
I know that - I'm also one of them, but I assure you speaking (or trying to speak) a correct english will take you far and you'll make a good impression. Not to mention it will be easy to plead your case in front of a staff member in case of trouble with your account or getting an invite.
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Originally Posted by
AniStoned
From the majority of the tracker's staffs they highly discourage public giveaways.
That's true, but there are exceptions, too. There were a lot of staff's giveaways made here at FST. While I was member here at FST, I saw giveaways from.
FTN - brandon is legendary for his giveaways here
SCT - feeling himself gave away invites to SCT here
FSC - sear had a recruitment topic not so long ago
BCG - stoi is a regular here and one of the most respected members
PTN - had 2 recruitment topics
and so on.
Also keeping an eye on the open signups topic is highly recommended (bitmetv had last year open signups). Just be patient and good things will come to you. :)
Feeling giving invites here:O
Might be his paypal got full:lol: